l**********o
发帖数: 12 | 1 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
-based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
在firm里做了3年多了，和我一个class的60%的人都已经离开了，剩下40%中，今天又有
25%被laid-off。 他们的performance meet exp |
p*****y
发帖数: 133 | 2 听起来好可怕,audit or tax? bless |
c******e
发帖数: 263 | 3 Not necessarily a bad thing.
One of my friends put his position in one of the big4s as "Slave" on his
blog.You should celebrate for the freedom. Maybe you will find a suitable
job for yourself, not being a slave.
After all, it is just a job. Hope you will find yourself in a better
situation than before after you find a new position. Good luck and keep
yourself happy! Life is short. |
V****r
发帖数: 460 | |
l**********o
发帖数: 12 | 5 Right, it is audit.
Tax is safe and still offers a decent annual raise because of FIN48.
BTW, I am still with the firm and not on the market at this moment. So, "
celebrate" for still being "slaved" But, maybe I should think of looking for
other opportunities. Maybe. |
i******m
发帖数: 2591 | 6 我离开四大有一年多了，同一批入行的好朋友留下来的没几个了
nyc financial industry audit practice 的形式总体上从去年就不好了，跟sub-
prime，AS5 都很有关，衰退已经开始了有一段时间了，只不过老美口头上不肯承认，
呵呵
performance
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
: 果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
: 不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
: 庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
: 其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
: expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
: -based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
: Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
: 日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
: 薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
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l**********o
发帖数: 12 | 7 Yeah, they refused to accept the truth.
What I don't understand is why my office laid off experienced seniors and
managers and still keep staff.
They are "Xi3 Xin1 Yan4 Jiu4" |
W*****d
发帖数: 4196 | 8 because staff are cheaper.
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, they refused to accept the truth.
: What I don't understand is why my office laid off experienced seniors and
: managers and still keep staff.
: They are "Xi3 Xin1 Yan4 Jiu4"
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m******e
发帖数: 34 | |
c*********k
发帖数: 220 | 10 Layoff is based on job demand not performance.
Seniors are almost as cheap as staff. |
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t*****u
发帖数: 965 | 11 我以前的同事和我说，
SF office前段也很恐怖的laid 一群， so does LA office
performance
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
: 果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
: 不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
: 庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
: 其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
: expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
: -based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
: Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
: 日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
: 薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
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c*********0
发帖数: 757 | 12 big 4 senior should be happy to laid off, it is time to enjoy the family
time and take the unemployment compensation to vocation,,,after the 6 months
break,,,easly get into the job market to find a better paid job...dont
worry about it~~~ managers maybe more happy than you. |
c******e
发帖数: 263 | 13 Agree.
BTW, you never know how much you are worth until you are on the market.
Maybe you will find a whole new world and enjoy the real life.
months
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: big 4 senior should be happy to laid off, it is time to enjoy the family
: time and take the unemployment compensation to vocation,,,after the 6 months
: break,,,easly get into the job market to find a better paid job...dont
: worry about it~~~ managers maybe more happy than you.
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c*********k
发帖数: 220 | 14 No one would be happy to be laid off without any notice.
In a normal workday, you come to your client, you get a call from HR, you
turn on your computer and go home. Done！
Losing a job is not so scary. What hurts most is it comes as shock.
Layoff is quite normal in USA. I heard it happened in 2001. Let us be
prepared and fight with the "coming" recession. :) |
l*******e
发帖数: 309 | 15 from the performance grading. The office I worked for is still doing good.
but I heard less promotion this year.
I'm happy I left alreday. my guess if when people get the year end bonus as
of 9/1, they will start to look for industry job. |
l*******e
发帖数: 309 | 16 I'm expecting i will get those over time pay by the end. |
p*******7
发帖数: 206 | 17 sigh, nyc financial service tax still has a lot of work a....we are still
hiring and taking rotators from other offices.... |
m*******h
发帖数: 147 | 18 我们公司还在华华华地招人..................
.............................
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performance
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
: 果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
: 不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
: 庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
: 其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
: expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
: -based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
: Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
: 日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
: 薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
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A*******7
发帖数: 39 | 19 对于中国学生来说，至少是对我来说，如果被四大laid off后第一想到的应该不是“哦
，我终于自由了，我可以开始新的人生了！”
而是，“我就要丢失我的身份了。”
我很记得我的一个也是会计的同学在刚刚拿到绿卡后对我说的一句话：“拿到绿卡的最
大意义不在于我终于可以回国了，终于可以出国旅游了，而是我终于不怕被laid off
了。”
叹息。。。 |
c*********k
发帖数: 220 | 20 说实话看到laid off，还是挺难过的。特别是很好的朋友们。
我昨天晚上又梦到了laid-off meeting （果然是噩梦重温啊），不过名单上没有我的
好朋友的名字，我早上告诉她我梦到她不再名单上，她说，“你不知道梦都是反梦吗？
我这周应该就结束了”另一个好朋友说HR通知她了。
我们的office说要帮着那些人找工作。美国人无所谓，拿了package,走人找工作。其实
作为外国人，我们最大的制约就是身份了，而现在big 4 申请绿卡也越来越难。
makeawish， 如果你的firm在招人，方便在这里disclose一下吗？我的一些朋友也许用
的上。 |
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h********y
发帖数: 190 | 21 唉,看得我直出冷汗啊......
performance
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
: 果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
: 不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
: 庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
: 其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
: expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
: -based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
: Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
: 日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
: 薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
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l*******e
发帖数: 309 | 22 or maybe internally transfer to Global capital market based in HK. you will
HK local pay, and work in Beijing/shanghai office. |
U*****5
发帖数: 189 | 23 Hey, can you tell us more about the Global capital market based in HK? Which
firm? How to join and can people from other firms join?
Thanks alot.
will
【在 l*******e 的大作中提到】
: or maybe internally transfer to Global capital market based in HK. you will
: HK local pay, and work in Beijing/shanghai office.
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l*******e
发帖数: 309 | 24 this is in PwC and I think the other big 4 should also have the same
function group but maybe under different name.
The job function there is to provide GAAP expert advice to Asian clients(pay
attention, not just mainland job, you may got assignment to Japan or Korea)
that public listed in US. or now the converion of GAAP to IFRS.
Sorry, I can't do the referral now as I have left PwC now.
They used to ask manager level above and now they accept seniors. |
M**U
发帖数: 2752 | 25 KPMG今年都不招国际学生了，deloitte直接都没来我们学校招。
他们往年在我们学校招人还蛮多的。 |
l****g
发帖数: 209 | 26 today, our office has announced lay-off too. Sad.....
performance
【在 l**********o 的大作中提到】
: 昨天突然召集大家明天来开会，早上起来就谣言满天飞。
: 果不其然，早上HR就打电话让一些人走路，下午partners就说因为经济形势不好，我们
: 不得不让一些人离开， 11%的lay-offs. 整个office里，大家鸦雀无声。能说什么呢？
: 庆幸我们还算lucky，还能呆在这里。
: 其实big 4里面的那么频繁的performance evaluation, 如果拿了4 (not meet
: expectation),要么自己resign, 要么就被fired。 我们觉得这几年下来的performance
: -based fire 已经都结束了，该走的都已经走了。现在又来了laid-off.
: Lay-offs的都是seniors & managers. Staff 都很安全。那些在忙季一周60-80小时的
: 日子，那些under-pay的日子，到头来都不算了。听说一些公司 severance都给4个月的
: 薪水,我们好像就给4周吧。
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a*****e
发帖数: 44 | 27 People who have information about lay-offs should say what firm they are in
and what office. This would be more helpful and HR will not know if you post
here. |
c*********0
发帖数: 757 | 28 NO more GAAP after 2016, US has to follow the International Accounting
Standards from now, in 2009, SEC allows same big companies to adopt the IAS
in their Financial Statement, GAAP IS OVER....... |
m********9
发帖数: 116 | 29
IAS
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: NO more GAAP after 2016, US has to follow the International Accounting
: Standards from now, in 2009, SEC allows same big companies to adopt the IAS
: in their Financial Statement, GAAP IS OVER.......
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 30 老实说ＩＡＳ ｓｕｃｋｓ，ＧＡＡＰ是ｒｕｌｅｂａｓｅｄ的，ＩＡＳ是ｐｒｉｎｃ
ｉｐｌｅｂａｓｅｄ的，而且为了适合各个国家，标准都放的很宽，这样几乎怎么搞都
是符合ＩＡＳ．
公司的ａｎｎｕａｌ ｒｅｐｏｒｔ里面很多都不写．到时候看美国的投资者要叫了．
最后估计把ＩＡＳ搞的很ＧＡＡＰ一样，哈．
IAS
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: NO more GAAP after 2016, US has to follow the International Accounting
: Standards from now, in 2009, SEC allows same big companies to adopt the IAS
: in their Financial Statement, GAAP IS OVER.......
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l*******e
发帖数: 309 | |
