g*******k
发帖数: 164 | 1 想请教大家一个问题。
本人背景，本科法律。现在想要上学，就现在经济形式来看，除了计算机和会计，别的
找工作都超级困难。计算机对于我说太难了，所以，只好希望走会计路线了。
现在有两个programs在选择，一个是1年的LLM in taxation,一个是从会计本科开始学
一直学到满足cpa考试要求或者拿下硕士学位为止。
无论是时间长短还是学费多少，我都非常倾向于LLM in taxation,但是，又非常担心这
个学位学下来以后根本不能找到工作。所以想请教一下各位达人。
LLM in Taxation学的税务的东西和会计专业做税的学的一样吗？
将来找工作也是找同一方向的吗？
通过学一个LLM in Taxation 去找税务方面的工作现实吗？
各州的税法有很大区别吗？可不可以在a州学然后b州找工作呢？
LLM的课程设置觉不可能满足考CPA的要求的，如果将来就做税的话，一定要考CPA吗？
一般来说做税务的career path 和 career goal是什么呢？
一想到那么多的学费，就好心疼啊。希望投资之前多了解点信息。谢谢大家！ |
l*****o
发帖数: 74 | 2 No LLM if you want to find a job in Big 4, not mention to small firms where
you will be listed overqualified, because you have not enough credit hours
for CPA. If you want to go to law firm with an LLM in tax, that is
impossible because you have no JD degree and can't take bar exam.
I have the same background with you. I have a law degree in China and LLM in
US and Master of Acc in tax in US. I even had working experience in
European law firms. My law degree and LLM was thought overqualified dur
【在 g*******k 的大作中提到】
: 想请教大家一个问题。
: 本人背景，本科法律。现在想要上学，就现在经济形式来看，除了计算机和会计，别的
: 找工作都超级困难。计算机对于我说太难了，所以，只好希望走会计路线了。
: 现在有两个programs在选择，一个是1年的LLM in taxation,一个是从会计本科开始学
: 一直学到满足cpa考试要求或者拿下硕士学位为止。
: 无论是时间长短还是学费多少，我都非常倾向于LLM in taxation,但是，又非常担心这
: 个学位学下来以后根本不能找到工作。所以想请教一下各位达人。
: LLM in Taxation学的税务的东西和会计专业做税的学的一样吗？
: 将来找工作也是找同一方向的吗？
: 通过学一个LLM in Taxation 去找税务方面的工作现实吗？
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a****d
发帖数: 607 | 3 LLM 是可以考BAR的.不过我还是建议楼主读MSA-TAXATION.我的背景和你们一样.读了
MSA-TAXATION,非常好找工作.但是建议你自己先拿几们ACCOUNTING的课.因为MSA-
TAXATION主要是学TAX,考CPA时会比较吃力. |
l*****o
发帖数: 74 | 4 LLM only allowed to take bar in 5 states. Anyway, have you heard back from
KPMG?
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: LLM 是可以考BAR的.不过我还是建议楼主读MSA-TAXATION.我的背景和你们一样.读了
: MSA-TAXATION,非常好找工作.但是建议你自己先拿几们ACCOUNTING的课.因为MSA-
: TAXATION主要是学TAX,考CPA时会比较吃力.
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a****d
发帖数: 607 | |
l*******8
发帖数: 166 | 6 Thank you for the sharing, very informative. I have similar backgound but I went for MBA @ finance. Now it turned out that to do tax is better for my career path. :((( I am still wondering if you pass the bar exam you can get hired by law firms even without a JD? I know a guy who passed the New York bar exam but he didn't get a good job with only LLM so he went back to China. Also I went to a tax attorney and he said tax lawyer and tax accountant are very different. Tax attorneys focus more on p
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: No LLM if you want to find a job in Big 4, not mention to small firms where
: you will be listed overqualified, because you have not enough credit hours
: for CPA. If you want to go to law firm with an LLM in tax, that is
: impossible because you have no JD degree and can't take bar exam.
: I have the same background with you. I have a law degree in China and LLM in
: US and Master of Acc in tax in US. I even had working experience in
: European law firms. My law degree and LLM was thought overqualified dur
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l*****o
发帖数: 74 | 7 I understand your anxiety. I waited for 3 weeks. Normally, the partner will
give you a call first within two weeks if they want to extend you an offer.
And then the offer follows in the mail in a week.I will assume your base
pay in KPMG will be much less than your current offer BDO's. But I think you
are right. Go to Big 4 as priority and you can make more money when you
change your job later on.
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: 下周2，等得我心力交瘁，茶饭不思，唉
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l*****o
发帖数: 74 | 8 American University in DC.
I went for MBA @ finance. Now it turned out that to do tax is better for my
career path. :((( I am still wondering if you pass the bar exam you can get
hired by law firms even without a JD? I know a guy who passed the New York
bar exam but he didn't get a good job with only LLM so he went back to China
. Also I went to a tax attorney and he said tax lawyer and tax accountant
are very different. Tax attorneys focus more on : planning while CPAs do
more technical stuff.
【在 l*******8 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for the sharing, very informative. I have similar backgound but I went for MBA @ finance. Now it turned out that to do tax is better for my career path. :((( I am still wondering if you pass the bar exam you can get hired by law firms even without a JD? I know a guy who passed the New York bar exam but he didn't get a good job with only LLM so he went back to China. Also I went to a tax attorney and he said tax lawyer and tax accountant are very different. Tax attorneys focus more on p
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a****d
发帖数: 607 | 9 Thanks for sharing.
will
.
you
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: I understand your anxiety. I waited for 3 weeks. Normally, the partner will
: give you a call first within two weeks if they want to extend you an offer.
: And then the offer follows in the mail in a week.I will assume your base
: pay in KPMG will be much less than your current offer BDO's. But I think you
: are right. Go to Big 4 as priority and you can make more money when you
: change your job later on.
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g*******k
发帖数: 164 | 10 谢谢大家！
LLM的确非常不好找工作，一直都这样的，除非特别的牛。而且，只有NY和CA可以允许
LLM考BAR。
看来，只有念会计，然后做税，是一条比较现实的路了。 |
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c*********0
发帖数: 757 | 11 baruch college, MST is excellent |
a*******h
发帖数: 2 | 12 you can take llm in taxation and go to big 4 without having to pass cpa as
long as you pass the bar. I would suggest you take more international tax
courses so that you may have a good chance to get into international tax
group which is a specialty group with higher pay. |
a*******h
发帖数: 2 | 13 只有NY和CA可以允许
this is not true, but these two states are certainly the most popular ones.
llm in tax definitely has better chance than other general llms. Depending
on your background, you may want to check NYU or georgetown for their llm
tax program. UFL is also a good choice (ranked 2) if you dont have any
special requirement for location. It's much cheaper and you may get
scholarship.
again, you may find job in big 4 with decent pay and reasonable working
hours with llm in tax. law firm is muc |
L***M
发帖数: 396 | 14 It is ok if you couldn't get edu qualified for CPA. You can always try
enroll agent test from IRS. There are three ways for tax professionals to
get promoted to be manager in big fours: CPA, BAR and enroll agent. If you
are doing a tax job in big four with a law degree, it is easier for you to
get promoted and do more difficult work such as tax research and consulting.
MST is more practical compared with LLM. Both MST and LLM are good for tax
positions in big fours. However, LLM might be a littl |
l*******8
发帖数: 166 | 15 May I ask if you work in Big4, would you clarify that if Big4 also hire LLM
even they didn't get a JD in a US law school? I somehow feel most of the
recruiting posts mention a JD followed by LLM..
consulting.
tax
【在 L***M 的大作中提到】
: It is ok if you couldn't get edu qualified for CPA. You can always try
: enroll agent test from IRS. There are three ways for tax professionals to
: get promoted to be manager in big fours: CPA, BAR and enroll agent. If you
: are doing a tax job in big four with a law degree, it is easier for you to
: get promoted and do more difficult work such as tax research and consulting.
: MST is more practical compared with LLM. Both MST and LLM are good for tax
: positions in big fours. However, LLM might be a littl
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z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 16 With a LLM in Tax but w/o JD, your chance to go to a law firm practicing tax
law is very slim. You can't go to small accounting firms because you are
overqualifed for any entry level position they may have. The only potential
place for you is Big 4. But It's not a good job environment right now out
there.
My suggestion is to get a CPA first and find an accounting job, maybe with
Big 4 maybe not. Then do LLM in Tax part-time if you happen to be in NYC or
DC, then look for opportunity to move with |
A*********4
发帖数: 467 | 17 个人感觉光有MS-TAX 非常难找工作
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: LLM 是可以考BAR的.不过我还是建议楼主读MSA-TAXATION.我的背景和你们一样.读了
: MSA-TAXATION,非常好找工作.但是建议你自己先拿几们ACCOUNTING的课.因为MSA-
: TAXATION主要是学TAX,考CPA时会比较吃力.
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a****d
发帖数: 607 | 18 我的确是凭这个找到的，不止一个。当然实习也很重要。 |
L***M
发帖数: 396 | 19 well, it's also good if you can get an accounting degree in the US first,
and get a job. In that way, you won't limit yourself for the beginning of
your career. If you are specifically interested in practicing Tax, go for
MST or LLM while working. It's always good for tax people to get either MST
or law degree for their career. For the firm that i work with, most of law
degree holders are americans. Therefore, they do have JD, and some of them
go for LLM after JD. There might have people who hav |
z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 20 I agree that with a LLM in tax your choices of employers are very limited,
only law firms, big 4 and IRS. Without a JD and as a foreigner, law firms
and IRS are off the list. In this economic downturn, the chance that you can
land a job at Big 4 after getting a LLM is very uncertain, although
possible. You need to think about what if you can't find a job after getting
a LLM. What's your plan then?
The other way is much safef but may require more time. You get an accouting
job first, preferrably
【在 L***M 的大作中提到】
: well, it's also good if you can get an accounting degree in the US first,
: and get a job. In that way, you won't limit yourself for the beginning of
: your career. If you are specifically interested in practicing Tax, go for
: MST or LLM while working. It's always good for tax people to get either MST
: or law degree for their career. For the firm that i work with, most of law
: degree holders are americans. Therefore, they do have JD, and some of them
: go for LLM after JD. There might have people who hav
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l*****o
发帖数: 74 | 21 Did you get KPMG offer? If yes, we will be colleagues.
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: 我的确是凭这个找到的，不止一个。当然实习也很重要。
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