s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Family 讨论区 】
发信人: MMR2 (----), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 抱怨一下，原来working 版的版主 friediceman是这样的 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 2 00:50:38 2009)
下面是我原贴的大意，请大家看看，我绝对没有任何挑拨会计和其他学科关系的地方．
1.我说了会计普遍工资低.
2.我说了四大得不好.引用了四大里面人的自己话"四大是现在的奴隶工厂." 这是前两
天四大里搞税的人跳出后自己说的.
3. 我说了四大现在裁人裁的厉害,没有任何造谣之处,四大普遍裁员,尤其是四大中的Ｄ
Ｔ，从去年夏天的 high-profile 裁员开始到现在，一直在裁减人员，并且四大的 GC
sponsor 因为layoff freeze 了.这是法律事实.
4. 我说了很多小的事务所只给 MS in Accounting 起新三万多.确实是这个价,会计版
很多人问过了,没有工作经验,没有绿卡的, 就是这个价.
5. 我说了会计的博士研究和实际业界会计严重脱节.这是我引用的会计版原话.
可以把会 |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 2 嗯, 想看下作者原文是什么.
但我想不管细节如何, 凭这个删贴好像又点过分 |
s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | 3 发信人: MMR2 (----), 信区: Complain
标 题: 投诉 working 版版主 friediceman 滥用职权，对别人打击报复。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 1 22:32:15 2009)
整个事件历程：
1。我发贴说了 accounting negative 的话，
2。被删贴。
3。我回贴询问为何删贴？
4。friediceman 回答的大意是：这个贴太 negative了，是对会计行业的攻击，该删。
5。我回贴，说我不同意删贴的理由，我不认为我的贴是行业攻击, 我会投诉。
6。得知我会投诉后，friediceman 给我发信，说封我 30 天，
7。我在 complaint 版投诉friediceman.
8。我回信，告诉他我不会再去 working 版，并且让他不要给我发信了。
9. friediceman 再次给我发信，说封我 70 天了。
大家从时间顺序上可以看得清清楚楚，friediceman 是因为我投诉他，才封我 30 天，
此后又改成 70 天，完全是乱用职权，胡乱封人, 滥用职权打击报复别人，根本不是因
为我原来的关于 |
p**z
发帖数: 1311 | 4 我同意你说的所有 都是事实 我也很想对正在读书的人说
但是我从来没敢说 就是因为太negative..
人家是版主 ...那肯定版主说了算了 |
L****a
发帖数: 179 | 5 你是挺烦人的，早就该封你的ID. 有好几次我的或别人的帖子说会计怎某怎某好，你总
是蹦出来说怎某怎某不好，为什某做人就不能看好的一面，而总是抓住不好的一面不妨
呢。更何况任何职业都有好的或不好的方面。我不知道你是不是业内人士，如果是就更
不应该贬低自己的职业， 给新入行的人带来反面的影响。如果你不是业内人士， 那也
请你以后不要再来我们的版面，我们都和谐和互相帮助的，不希望你这样的人来捣乱。
还有，就算大家在自己的版面上发发牢骚，只是我们自己的悄悄话，你没必要把它们都
汇总了然后发到别的版面上让别人看我们的笑话。最后我要说的事，即便在这某差的经
济下，我们这行现在和将来的职业前景还是很好的， 比很多行业都好找工作而且很稳
定。 |
s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | 6 反面意见对入行和未入行者是很好的信息
瞎吹夸大正面才害人 |
L****a
发帖数: 179 | 7 没人夸大正面，你也不要总是抓着负面的不放，做人要厚道。只要承认了错误就是好同
志。 |
s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | |
p********n
发帖数: 25 | 9 做人不要太negtive哦，不然生活苦不堪言，我在会计领域做了10多年，在这里还没有
找到会计工作，要是想会计有怎么怎么不好，那我日子不是很难过。美国这边兴乐观态
度，发表nagtive观点的可能是不太收欢迎。以后吸取点教训吧 |
v*********g
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L****a
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d*********2
发帖数: 334 | 12 每个人都有表达自己言论的权利，只要不侵犯到别人的权益就行。 |
n*******n
发帖数: 110 | 13 Reound Metro NYC NJ,
Entry level is about 35-40K ( New graduate )
Stsff II 40-55K ( Least one year experience)
Staff III 60-80K( least two years experience)
Senior 80-100K ( least 3-4 years experience)
会计重的是经验,so your 1.我说了会计普遍工资低. only 50% right |
s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | 14 for Chinese, take 80% of the figure
【在 n*******n 的大作中提到】
: Reound Metro NYC NJ,
: Entry level is about 35-40K ( New graduate )
: Stsff II 40-55K ( Least one year experience)
: Staff III 60-80K( least two years experience)
: Senior 80-100K ( least 3-4 years experience)
: 会计重的是经验,so your 1.我说了会计普遍工资低. only 50% right
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v*******9
发帖数: 21 | 15
Your attitude is too negative.
For myself, I make 90K base + bonus in NJ with 4 years experience now.
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】
: for Chinese, take 80% of the figure
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s*******y
发帖数: 1138 | 16 this is a life-time argument on this board
【在 v*******9 的大作中提到】
:
: Your attitude is too negative.
: For myself, I make 90K base + bonus in NJ with 4 years experience now.
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p**z
发帖数: 1311 | 17 what happen if you put the hours into the equation? |
n*******n
发帖数: 110 | 18 too negative, why do we Chinese have to take 20% off.
I make 65K in noth NJ with 3 years experience now. I believe I am under paid
, but my company 100% pay my part time master degree tuition in NYU -70K
for 2.5 years.
By the way vicky2009 is so cool...... PFPF:) |
c*****t
发帖数: 68 | 19 Your opinion is not true. All people I know, for auditors or people doing tax or consulting, lowest pay for entry-level is $50,000, highest $60,000, we are in New
England area and we are all fresh graduates. The salary you mentioned is for
high school graduate or college graduate? When you got 5-10 years of working
experience and become a controller in small firm with $100,000-150,000 or
medium firm with $400,000-600,000, you won't say those negative comments. |
c*****t
发帖数: 68 | 20 Your opinion is not true. All people I know, auditors or tax or consulting,
lowest pay for entry-level is $50,000, highest $60,000, we are in New
England area and we are all fresh graduates. The salary you mentioned is for
high school graduate or college graduates? When you got 5-10 working
experience and become a controller in small firm with $100,000-150,000 or
medium firm with $400,000-600,000, you won't make those negative comments. |
c*****t
发帖数: 68 | 21 Your opinion is not true. All people I know, auditors or tax or consulting,
lowest pay for entry-level is $50,000, highest $60,000, we are in New
England area and we are all fresh graduates. The salary you mentioned is for
high school graduate or college graduates? When you got 5-10 working
experience and become a controller in small firm with $100,000-150,000 or
medium firm with $400,000-600,000, you won't make those negative comments. |
c*********k
发帖数: 220 | 22 Are we talking about money again? :) I wish someone could say " I love
accounting, I am enjoying it"
If you are happy with what you are doing, you will be self-motivated, you
will be successful in career. And money will find you.
Salary.com offers a statistical research report. Such information is more
meaningful than individul case. |
