w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 1 Wait, the fury around Android was for show?
"I think that served their interests. For a lot of companies, it’s useful
for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around
that. I personally believe that it’s better to shoot higher. You don’t
want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what’s
possible and how to make the world better."
--larry page
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-04/googles-page-ap | a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 2 LOL
Jobs死了，他就可以装比有Jobs更高的追求了么？
哈哈哈！！！
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Wait, the fury around Android was for show?
: "I think that served their interests. For a lot of companies, it’s useful
: for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around
: that. I personally believe that it’s better to shoot higher. You don’t
: want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what’s
: possible and how to make the world better."
: --larry page
: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-04/googles-page-ap
| w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 3 I actually think it is a quite decent answer fro Page.
It is good that he is shooting for how to make the world better.
it is similar to what steve said about make the best product.
We donno if he really meant to do so, and hopefully he will do soething
great along the way.
useful
around
s
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: LOL
: Jobs死了，他就可以装比有Jobs更高的追求了么？
: 哈哈哈！！！
| S**I
发帖数: 15689 | 4 It is easy to tell whether Jobs made the best product or not, but how can
you tell whether the world is made better? Even it is, how do you know it is
made by Page?
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: I actually think it is a quite decent answer fro Page.
: It is good that he is shooting for how to make the world better.
: it is similar to what steve said about make the best product.
: We donno if he really meant to do so, and hopefully he will do soething
: great along the way.
:
: useful
: around
: s
| w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 5 自动驾驶的汽车，google glasses。。 这些应该算是试图改变世界的一部分尝试。
is
【在 S**I 的大作中提到】
: It is easy to tell whether Jobs made the best product or not, but how can
: you tell whether the world is made better? Even it is, how do you know it is
: made by Page?
| f*******5
发帖数: 10321 | 6 这篇采访正经不错
page坦率地承认必须能搜索人
7人管理团队，经常向bloomberg，jobs请教
大公司之间合作困难。
etc。
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Wait, the fury around Android was for show?
: "I think that served their interests. For a lot of companies, it’s useful
: for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around
: that. I personally believe that it’s better to shoot higher. You don’t
: want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what’s
: possible and how to make the world better."
: --larry page
: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-04/googles-page-ap
| c****o
发帖数: 681 | 7 I think Page is full of bull in this interview. He just couldn't help
letting his disrespect for Jobs show. What he was saying, effectively, is
that he didn't need any advice from Jobs. Jobs requested the meeting, while
he didn't give it a damn. Jobs had lots of "interesting" insights about how
to run a company, and every English speaker knows "interesting" means "
nonsense" in corporate speak.
Bad mouthing the late Jobs personally not enough, he went on to say Android
is every bit as original and as great as iOS, so Jobs was making hay faking
the differences and the fury. Jobs just needed to create an enemy to rally
the troops, while the benign masters in Google were working hard trying to
make the world a better place.
He also says there has been nothing that Google did wrong in the past. Only
time there was "difficulty" is because AOL is crap and too hard to work with.
Some other gems from Page:
1) Apple is no longer innovative and is about to die, because it's actively
pursuing those who infringe upon its intellectual property. We at Google don
't care much about IP; we are so kind we create and distribute it to the
world for free. (Really? Then why the phuk don't you make your search
algorithms open source?)
2) Users on the internet have too much privacy. The internet is too much "
guarded". Why don't you, Facebook, open up all your users' database, and let
us look inside. We'll be able to do a better job figuring out what ads to
push to the users. Why don't you, users, open up yourself and let us look
into your personal life. We are going to make your life better if you do.
Why don't you understand that in the grand scheme of things, a lot of
privacy is counter productive for yourself?
I knew Eric Schmidt is a jerk before; now I suspect Google's evilness has
deeper roots. Anybody who thought Jobs is a control freak, think Google.
Google is about controlling every aspect of your life, not just the
ecosystem of your phone. At the same time, they will make you believe they
are only do-gooders who move the world, and you, toward a better future. | a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 8 .....
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: 自动驾驶的汽车，google glasses。。 这些应该算是试图改变世界的一部分尝试。
:
: is
| w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 9 hehe. I respect these invention, and think it is great stuff, especially the
car..
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: .....
| w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 10
while
how
yeah, looks like he hinted that he doesn't need the advice, but jobs goes to
meet him.
Android
faking
Only
with.
actively
don
let
【在 c****o 的大作中提到】
: I think Page is full of bull in this interview. He just couldn't help
: letting his disrespect for Jobs show. What he was saying, effectively, is
: that he didn't need any advice from Jobs. Jobs requested the meeting, while
: he didn't give it a damn. Jobs had lots of "interesting" insights about how
: to run a company, and every English speaker knows "interesting" means "
: nonsense" in corporate speak.
: Bad mouthing the late Jobs personally not enough, he went on to say Android
: is every bit as original and as great as iOS, so Jobs was making hay faking
: the differences and the fury. Jobs just needed to create an enemy to rally
: the troops, while the benign masters in Google were working hard trying to
| | | a***a
发帖数: 40617 | 11 英文nb
while
how
Android
faking
【在 c****o 的大作中提到】
: I think Page is full of bull in this interview. He just couldn't help
: letting his disrespect for Jobs show. What he was saying, effectively, is
: that he didn't need any advice from Jobs. Jobs requested the meeting, while
: he didn't give it a damn. Jobs had lots of "interesting" insights about how
: to run a company, and every English speaker knows "interesting" means "
: nonsense" in corporate speak.
: Bad mouthing the late Jobs personally not enough, he went on to say Android
: is every bit as original and as great as iOS, so Jobs was making hay faking
: the differences and the fury. Jobs just needed to create an enemy to rally
: the troops, while the benign masters in Google were working hard trying to
| t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 12 don
It's a fact that the current reality of everyone suing everyone was started
by apple.
let
You're intentionally misleading on this one. Page was talking about the
wall,
built by other companies or governments. Just like the GFW, it's not there
to protect your privacy. Facebook doesn't allow users to export their
contacts to google, even if the user wants to. It has nothing to do with
privacy. | c****o
发帖数: 681 | 13 So google had nothing to sue others about. Is it something to be proud of?
started
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: don
: It's a fact that the current reality of everyone suing everyone was started
: by apple.
: let
: You're intentionally misleading on this one. Page was talking about the
: wall,
: built by other companies or governments. Just like the GFW, it's not there
: to protect your privacy. Facebook doesn't allow users to export their
: contacts to google, even if the user wants to. It has nothing to do with
: privacy.
| c****o
发帖数: 681 | 14 Why does Page want other companies to tear down the "wall"? He does so
because he wants the data that Google doesn't have, on you, your friends,
your family, and all your personal life. How much does Google+ stand to gain
if Facebook opens it up? A lot. How much has Google+ lost by allowing
people to export to Facebook? Precious little. Page wants Facebook to give
up valuable data that they spent a fortune and a long time collecting. It
smells like theft of intellectual property to me. He does it in the name of
promoting "openness". In Page's dreams, every wall is torn down, every
database exposed (to Google at least), so his machines can crawl all over
and gather ever more detailed information about you. What you get is the
ability to "search for people", i.e. peeking into other people's life
without their consent, and on top of that, lots of ads.
there
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: don
: It's a fact that the current reality of everyone suing everyone was started
: by apple.
: let
: You're intentionally misleading on this one. Page was talking about the
: wall,
: built by other companies or governments. Just like the GFW, it's not there
: to protect your privacy. Facebook doesn't allow users to export their
: contacts to google, even if the user wants to. It has nothing to do with
: privacy.
| w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 15 Steve Jobs biographer Walter Isaacson says Jobs' anger over Android was real
and not "for show" as alleged by Google's Larry Page in an interview this
week. Macworld UK attended a lecture Isaacson gave at the Royal Institution
and the biographer said that Jobs felt Android's similarity to iOS was "
history repeating itself", and compared it to Jobs' feeling that Microsoft's
Windows was a rip-off of the Macintosh.
He did the integrated system again, iPod, iPad, and it worked, “but what
happens? Google rips it off”.
Isaacson continued: “It's almost copied verbatim by Android. And then they
licence it around promiscuously. And then Android starts surpassing Apple in
market share, and this totally infuriated him. It wasn't a matter of money.
He said: 'You can't pay me off, I'm here to destroy you'.”
Isaacson went on to say that he believes that Tim Cook will handle things
differently and "will settle that lawsuit." Apple is currently involved in a
number of lawsuits over Android with manufacturers around the world.
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Wait, the fury around Android was for show?
: "I think that served their interests. For a lot of companies, it’s useful
: for them to feel like they have an obvious competitor and to rally around
: that. I personally believe that it’s better to shoot higher. You don’t
: want to be looking at your competitors. You want to be looking at what’s
: possible and how to make the world better."
: --larry page
: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-04/googles-page-ap
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