s********8 发帖数: 619 | 1 昨天看到版上都在讨论toyota,就研究了下,研究的结果是,大家还是不要买了吧...
那个忽然加速的事情,几乎不可能是floor mat引起的,而应该是电路板的问题.
而且toyota自己不认错,这太过分了...如果一定要买,就当买菜车开吧...
不会贴视频,看下这个youtube video吧:
Are Toyota's Accelerators Out of Control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wD9MkaL3Q&feature=relmfu | r******s 发帖数: 3662 | 2 日车托语录"这事情不过是美国政府的阴谋抹黑托油塔而已,不必害怕"
【在 s********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天看到版上都在讨论toyota,就研究了下,研究的结果是,大家还是不要买了吧... : 那个忽然加速的事情,几乎不可能是floor mat引起的,而应该是电路板的问题. : 而且toyota自己不认错,这太过分了...如果一定要买,就当买菜车开吧... : 不会贴视频,看下这个youtube video吧: : Are Toyota's Accelerators Out of Control? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wD9MkaL3Q&feature=relmfu
| p********6 发帖数: 1339 | 3 其实美国政府要摸黑toyota和toyota的车有自动加速的问题不矛盾。苍蝇不叮无缝的蛋
,就等着你出问题,然后使劲整。
无脑日车托反而拿摸黑来证明toyota没有自动加速的问题,以为别人一样无脑么。
【在 r******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 日车托语录"这事情不过是美国政府的阴谋抹黑托油塔而已,不必害怕"
| h***q 发帖数: 1673 | 4 太恐怖了。看起来不是简单的脚垫,人为操作的问题。前一阵差点出手一辆toyota, 幸
亏临时改了主意。
【在 s********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天看到版上都在讨论toyota,就研究了下,研究的结果是,大家还是不要买了吧... : 那个忽然加速的事情,几乎不可能是floor mat引起的,而应该是电路板的问题. : 而且toyota自己不认错,这太过分了...如果一定要买,就当买菜车开吧... : 不会贴视频,看下这个youtube video吧: : Are Toyota's Accelerators Out of Control? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wD9MkaL3Q&feature=relmfu
| i****x 发帖数: 17565 | 5 你的贴里“几乎不可能”“应该”这种字样,说服力实在太差。我给点实打实的数据和
结论吧。
不同品牌多年自动加速报告
toyota自动加速司机的年龄分布
http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/112_1003_unintended
Braking distances from 60 mph
Chevy Ford Honda Hyundai Nissan Subaru Toyota
Brake pedal only 130 ft 124 ft 125 ft 123 ft 124 ft
121 ft 128 ft
At wide-open throttle 167 ft 152 ft 129 ft 124 ft 124 ft
124 ft 128 ft
Approx braking hp 534 hp 559 hp 544 hp 545 hp 525 hp
587 hp 537 hp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932010_Toyota_vehicle_r
In February 2011 the findings of a 10-month-long study conducted by the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), aimed to identify the main
cause of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus models. The study was
requested by the US Congress and "enlisted NASA engineers with expertise in
areas such as computer controlled electronic systems, electromagnetic
interference and software integrity".[226] The most common problem was
drivers hitting the gas when they thought they were hitting the brake, which
the NHTSA called "pedal misapplication.”[226] Of the 58 cases reported, 18
were dismissed out of hand. Of the remaining 40, 39 of them were found to
have no cause; the remainder being an instance of “pedal entrapment.” One
investigator says most of the cases involved “pedal misapplication” –
that is, “the driver stepped on the gas rather than the brake or in
addition to the brake.”[227] The report concluded that the two mechanical
safety defects that were originally identified by NHTSA are known causes of
dangerous unintended acceleration.[226]
结论:即使油门全开,用力刹车也可以轻松把车刹住,除非你长时间不用力踩刹车造成
刹车片过热fade。丰田自动加速故障并不比其他品牌多。自动加速事件中老人比例奇高
,因此判断大多数都因为踩错踏板(除非你认为是丰田车专挑老司机出毛病)。
【在 s********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天看到版上都在讨论toyota,就研究了下,研究的结果是,大家还是不要买了吧... : 那个忽然加速的事情,几乎不可能是floor mat引起的,而应该是电路板的问题. : 而且toyota自己不认错,这太过分了...如果一定要买,就当买菜车开吧... : 不会贴视频,看下这个youtube video吧: : Are Toyota's Accelerators Out of Control? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wD9MkaL3Q&feature=relmfu
| h**********r 发帖数: 2284 | 6 A few years back, I, among a few dozen people, actually witnessed a case
like this. But it's the old lady/guy pressed the wrong pedal and the car
accelerated off road. It turned out that it was not the car problem. The car
hit a tree and finally stopped, and fortunately there's no injury. I don't
remember the car brand, but it's before the 'acceleration' issue even
emerged.
Toyota
【在 i****x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的贴里“几乎不可能”“应该”这种字样,说服力实在太差。我给点实打实的数据和 : 结论吧。 : 不同品牌多年自动加速报告 : toyota自动加速司机的年龄分布 : http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/112_1003_unintended : Braking distances from 60 mph : Chevy Ford Honda Hyundai Nissan Subaru Toyota : Brake pedal only 130 ft 124 ft 125 ft 123 ft 124 ft : 121 ft 128 ft : At wide-open throttle 167 ft 152 ft 129 ft 124 ft 124 ft
| M***s 发帖数: 8769 | | t******6 发帖数: 9093 | | i****x 发帖数: 17565 | | t******6 发帖数: 9093 | 10 感觉现在TOYOTA就像方舟子一样,敌人只有翻旧账(基本证伪)来攻击,面对面比较车
型(客观数据)几乎没有,我一直以为2B是豪车,现在看感觉像韩寒 | | | x******n 发帖数: 771 | 11 Very stupid!
【在 M***s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别人能刹住,可惜丰田就是刹不住
| q******5 发帖数: 1670 | | h***q 发帖数: 1673 | 13 哪位懂车的给科普一下,这种问题是不是大部分出现在自动档的车?手动挡没问题? | w******6 发帖数: 861 | 14 手动挡肯定没有自动加速的问题,离合器踩下去就行了。
【在 h***q 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哪位懂车的给科普一下,这种问题是不是大部分出现在自动档的车?手动挡没问题?
| y*****d 发帖数: 4451 | 15 too young, sometimes naive |
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