N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 1 jeep patriot vs subaru forester
对于雪天和难度不高的offroad or unpaved road
jeep patriot 完胜 subaru forester
－能上雪链
－有skip plates选项
－有全尺寸的备胎
－不是日本车
－便宜
－难度高的offroad，forester一样不灵
有不同意见吗？ |
G***U
发帖数: 40 | 2 残疾人能坐轮椅，能趴残趴，排队还有福利
100米要跑进5秒，正常人一样不行
残疾人完胜正常人
有不同意见吗？ |
b*******n
发帖数: 8420 | 3 黑的好
【在 G***U 的大作中提到】
: 残疾人能坐轮椅，能趴残趴，排队还有福利
: 100米要跑进5秒，正常人一样不行
: 残疾人完胜正常人
: 有不同意见吗？
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G***U
发帖数: 40 | 4 没黑，其实我也蛮喜欢jeep的。
就是觉得逻辑不太顺。
【在 b*******n 的大作中提到】
: 黑的好
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d******e
发帖数: 7844 | 5 Patriot车主飘过，给你一一道来:
你如果不升级17寸轮毂，那所谓备胎就是全尺寸的... ...
Jeep Patriot用的三菱的平台，和Outlander一个底子，基本就是个日车... ...
Outlander本来就不贵，因为比Outlander还挫，所以更便宜... ...
Patriot如果真想off-road，上了off-road package可就一点也不便宜了。
此外，Patriot的发动机很挫，变速箱也很挫。Forester起码有个2.5T。
尽管Forester内饰很一般，但Patriot的内饰更差... ...
【在 N*******Y 的大作中提到】
: jeep patriot vs subaru forester
: 对于雪天和难度不高的offroad or unpaved road
: jeep patriot 完胜 subaru forester
: －能上雪链
: －有skip plates选项
: －有全尺寸的备胎
: －不是日本车
: －便宜
: －难度高的offroad，forester一样不灵
: 有不同意见吗？
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N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 6 赞现身说法
不懂“你如果不升级17寸轮毂，那所谓备胎就是全尺寸的... ...”
你说的是哪辆车？
Jeep Patriot不是基于caliber吗？难道和Outlander也是一路的？
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: Patriot车主飘过，给你一一道来:
: 你如果不升级17寸轮毂，那所谓备胎就是全尺寸的... ...
: Jeep Patriot用的三菱的平台，和Outlander一个底子，基本就是个日车... ...
: Outlander本来就不贵，因为比Outlander还挫，所以更便宜... ...
: Patriot如果真想off-road，上了off-road package可就一点也不便宜了。
: 此外，Patriot的发动机很挫，变速箱也很挫。Forester起码有个2.5T。
: 尽管Forester内饰很一般，但Patriot的内饰更差... ...
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t******k
发帖数: 5617 | 7
~~~~~~谁说forester不能上snow chain？http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoiJ9PoruBs
~~~~~~~~一堆third party，国内的人很多都装底盘装甲
~~~~~~这个是没有，不过据说可以自己买全尺寸轮胎放进去
~~~~~~~挂美国牌子的日本车
~~~~~~~~就剩这条了
【在 N*******Y 的大作中提到】
: jeep patriot vs subaru forester
: 对于雪天和难度不高的offroad or unpaved road
: jeep patriot 完胜 subaru forester
: －能上雪链
: －有skip plates选项
: －有全尺寸的备胎
: －不是日本车
: －便宜
: －难度高的offroad，forester一样不灵
: 有不同意见吗？
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N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 8 －新款forester手册上说不能用雪链
－如果用了third party的，不知厂家的保险怎么算，还有效吗？
【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
:
: ~~~~~~谁说forester不能上snow chain？http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoiJ9PoruBs
: ~~~~~~~~一堆third party，国内的人很多都装底盘装甲
: ~~~~~~这个是没有，不过据说可以自己买全尺寸轮胎放进去
: ~~~~~~~挂美国牌子的日本车
: ~~~~~~~~就剩这条了
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t******k
发帖数: 5617 | 9 手册上好像的确有说，有人发信问了subaru，结果得到回复说是某些snow chain还是可
以用的。
下面是官方回复：
hank you for your recent e-mail to Subaru of America, Inc. We appreciate you
taking the time to contact us. We hope you are enjoying your Forester.
We have been informed that there are traction devices that may fit Subaru
vehicles where we have recommended against the use of conventional tire
chains. If you use the tire chains detailed below, you would need to install
them on the front wheels only. As also detailed below, we do not endorse
this product, but have not heard any complaints from over a thousand owners
who have used them.
This company claims that its devices are suitable for vehicles where we have
recommended against the use of conventional tire chains. The company is:
Security Chain Company (SCC)
A Division of Burns Brothers, Inc.
Portland, OR
The company's Internet address is: www.scc-chain.com . This Internet site
gives local retail sources for the products. The model recommended by SCC
for Subaru is SHUR GRIP Z. There are different sizes based on tire size.
SUBARU OF AMERICA cannot endorse these or any other traction devices.
However, we can inform any owners who request information on traction
devices of this company's claim that its products are available and suitable
for Subaru vehicles. Customers must take the initiative and responsibility
for securing the products and satisfying themselves that it is safe to use
them on their vehicle.
I hope that this information is helpful in your decision-making. If you have
any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Thank
you for the opportunity to be of service and we wish you many safe happy
miles in your Forester.
Best wishes,
Nancy Quinn
Subaru Customer/Dealer Services
【在 N*******Y 的大作中提到】
: －新款forester手册上说不能用雪链
: －如果用了third party的，不知厂家的保险怎么算，还有效吗？
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N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 10 jeep patriot 4x4 相对subaru forester而言
哪象残疾人了？愿闻其详
【在 G***U 的大作中提到】
: 残疾人能坐轮椅，能趴残趴，排队还有福利
: 100米要跑进5秒，正常人一样不行
: 残疾人完胜正常人
: 有不同意见吗？
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r********8
发帖数: 1672 | 11 compass 是不是比patriot 好看啊 |
r********8
发帖数: 1672 | |
N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 13 是不是compass与patriot的唯一区别就是外形好看不好看？
【在 r********8 的大作中提到】
: compass 是不是比patriot 好看啊
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r********8
发帖数: 1672 | |
d******e
发帖数: 7844 | 15 我是说Patriot，备胎是P205/70R16，升级了17寸轮毂的话，轮胎是P215/65R17。
而且我的车是08款，后备箱的放备胎的地方根本放不下全尺寸的备胎。不知道之后的有
没有改进。
三菱和克莱斯勒有一票车都是用的三菱的GS Platform, 而Patriot和Outlander尤其的
像。
Mitsubishi
2005–present Mitsubishi Outlander
2007–present Mitsubishi Lancer (sedan, hatchback)[3][4]
2007–present Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
2007–present Mitsubishi Delica[5]
2010–present Mitsubshi RVR (GA3W) (aka Mitsubishi ASX/Outlander Sport)[6]
Chrysler/Fiat
2007–2012 Dodge Caliber hatchback (PM)
2007–present Jeep Compass sports wagon (MK)
2007–present Jeep Patriot crossover SUV (MK)
2008–present Dodge Avenger (JS)
2009–present Dodge Journey / Fiat Freemont (JC49)[7][8][9]
2007-2010 Chrysler Sebring sedan (JS)
2008-2010 Chrysler Sebring Convertible (JS)
2011–present Chrysler 200 sedan & convertible (JS)
【在 N*******Y 的大作中提到】
: 赞现身说法
: 不懂“你如果不升级17寸轮毂，那所谓备胎就是全尺寸的... ...”
: 你说的是哪辆车？
: Jeep Patriot不是基于caliber吗？难道和Outlander也是一路的？
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d******e
发帖数: 7844 | 16 你说的太委婉了，简直是吵死了... ...
【在 r********8 的大作中提到】
: 还有今天试驾，感觉engine 有点响
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N*******Y
发帖数: 94 | 17 Subaru sucks ?!
"Most newer Subaru models just dont have the room for chains, as we have
made the braking systems larger the wheel size has increased to allow for
clearance, this also increased the size of the tire.
The chains in some cases will clear the wheel well but could hit the strut
assembly, which would cause the chain to then come loose this is
exceptionally true in the rear. The brake line could be torn off, the abs
sensor wiring could be torn out, the chain could hit the body of the car,
the chain could do more damage than I can describe if it was to come loose
or partially broken.
As to the issue of a one time use, while I understand its not popular to buy
Snow tires, if chains are not an option what choice do you really have? "
you
install
owners
【在 t******k 的大作中提到】
: 手册上好像的确有说，有人发信问了subaru，结果得到回复说是某些snow chain还是可
: 以用的。
: 下面是官方回复：
: hank you for your recent e-mail to Subaru of America, Inc. We appreciate you
: taking the time to contact us. We hope you are enjoying your Forester.
: We have been informed that there are traction devices that may fit Subaru
: vehicles where we have recommended against the use of conventional tire
: chains. If you use the tire chains detailed below, you would need to install
: them on the front wheels only. As also detailed below, we do not endorse
: this product, but have not heard any complaints from over a thousand owners
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