f***y
发帖数: 74 | 1 Avalon 2000，无前任车主的维修记录，不知道之前transmission fluid有没有flush过
没有。15.5k mile，现在transmission fluid很脏，修车店说flush可能会让
transmission坏掉，不换的话transmission也得坏，还能有多久寿命不好说，一般的
drain&refill意义不大，修车师傅说这就是个gamble。。
借车版宝地问问，这玩意换还是不换。。。 |
x*********s
发帖数: 5554 | 2 这个版面的结论应该是不支持老车flush，
至于具体怎么做，我是新手，我也不知道。。。
求电哥解答~
【在 f***y 的大作中提到】
: Avalon 2000，无前任车主的维修记录，不知道之前transmission fluid有没有flush过
: 没有。15.5k mile，现在transmission fluid很脏，修车店说flush可能会让
: transmission坏掉，不换的话transmission也得坏，还能有多久寿命不好说，一般的
: drain&refill意义不大，修车师傅说这就是个gamble。。
: 借车版宝地问问，这玩意换还是不换。。。
|
f***y
发帖数: 74 | 3 修车师傅说坏transmission是possible，不是probable。他会换，但要有坏的心理准备。
关键是transmission坏了这车就没修的必要了。
【在 x*********s 的大作中提到】
: 这个版面的结论应该是不支持老车flush，
: 至于具体怎么做，我是新手，我也不知道。。。
: 求电哥解答~
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k*******q
发帖数: 5493 | 4 变档正常就别动它，越修越坏
【在 f***y 的大作中提到】
: Avalon 2000，无前任车主的维修记录，不知道之前transmission fluid有没有flush过
: 没有。15.5k mile，现在transmission fluid很脏，修车店说flush可能会让
: transmission坏掉，不换的话transmission也得坏，还能有多久寿命不好说，一般的
: drain&refill意义不大，修车师傅说这就是个gamble。。
: 借车版宝地问问，这玩意换还是不换。。。
|
f***y
发帖数: 74 | 5 现在还是一切正常。那drain&refill的话能有啥效果不？
【在 k*******q 的大作中提到】
: 变档正常就别动它，越修越坏
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l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 6
比flush稳妥，一般搞3次就好了，每次之间隔1k miles。
【在 f***y 的大作中提到】
: 现在还是一切正常。那drain&refill的话能有啥效果不？
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t*****g
发帖数: 7455 | 7 看手册，很多车型都有drain&refill的要求
flush是这几年刚出来的，一做不说必坏，但是可能性非常高 |
f***y
发帖数: 74 | 8 我看了下manuel，上面没说这事。网上看到还有另外一个manuel，但下载不来。
打电话给我们这的toyota dealer，他们说可以flush。也不知可不可信。
【在 t*****g 的大作中提到】
: 看手册，很多车型都有drain&refill的要求
: flush是这几年刚出来的，一做不说必坏，但是可能性非常高
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l*********1
发帖数: 720 | 9 建议你别折腾 开到挂为止好了 flush肯定是坑爹的
manual没说 那多半油是lifetime的 意思就是让你开到挂为止 不用换
这玩意自己换 弄不好脏死了 要拆belly pan 还得换gasket and filter...
没个上百块打不住 |
l****n
发帖数: 768 | 10 life time 也就指望你开10万英里，现在都这个样子了，还是不换了吧，换了怕是马上
就坏了。非要换不可的话，还是drain and refill，搞 3次， 记得最后一次把filter
也换了。 |
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s****m
发帖数: 5244 | 11 15.5k miles?
15500 miles? |
f***y
发帖数: 74 | 12 155k
打错了。~
【在 s****m 的大作中提到】
: 15.5k miles?
: 15500 miles?
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H***m
发帖数: 128 | 13 Never flush the transmission regardless new or old. Here is my suggestions:
1. You could drive the car until end of its life.
2. You could change the fluid by drain and fill but make sure to use the
manufacturer brand. One drain and fill can only help about 30% of the new
oil mixed with the old. This should be safe. |
l*****d
发帖数: 454 | 14 那就搞不懂flush的意义何在，如果没有用，谁发明的这个做法？
【在 H***m 的大作中提到】
: Never flush the transmission regardless new or old. Here is my suggestions:
: 1. You could drive the car until end of its life.
: 2. You could change the fluid by drain and fill but make sure to use the
: manufacturer brand. One drain and fill can only help about 30% of the new
: oil mixed with the old. This should be safe.
|
c*********6
发帖数: 858 | 15 FYI. Hope it helps.
*********************************************************************
Transmission Flush Myths- Busted!
Anyone who is even remotely involved with cars has heard this type of story-
someone that they know got a transmission flush and their transmission
failed within weeks or even days.
The urban legend behind this is that the “sludge” is all that was holding
the transmission together and once it was removed with a flush, the
transmission had no chance of surviving.
The story goes like this:
Jim was having a transmission problem, let’s say that it was sluggish in
the morning and would slip on take-off from a stop from time to time when it
was hot out.
Now Jim has a brother-in-law named Bob that used to work on cars, do his own
tune ups and oil changes, etc. When Jim mentioned the problem that he was
having to Bob, his immediate response was, “You need to get that tranny
flushed”
Of course Jim not really knowing anything about a car, much less an
automatic transmission blindly follows the advice of his brother-in-law.
After all Bob surely knows all about cars even though he hasn’t worked on
one for over twenty years.
Jim obediently takes his car to the local lube place for a flush and an
engine oil change while it’s there. Jim gets his transmission flush, pays
and goes on his way.
At first, he notices maybe a slight improvement in performance but his
transmission is still exhibiting most of the original symptoms.
About two weeks later Jim is driving to work and he stops to pay a toll.
When he tries to pull away from the toll booth the unthinkable happens- the
car just revs and goes nowhere, as if it is in neutral. Jim moves the
shifter into low and is able to limp his car off to the side of the road and
wait for a tow truck to take him to a transmission shop.
What happened?
Here’s a list of reasons why the transmission flush myth exists:
•The myth is propagated by people who claim to be experts. I have even
heard of transmission repair shops who contribute to the myth in the hopes
of scaring potential customers into having their transmission overhauled
rather than maintaining it.
•There are thousands of “internet experts” who promote the
misinformation- it’s truly a case of “monkey see, monkey do” on steroids!
•There may have been a time in the early days of automatic
transmissions when failure after a flush was more common, perhaps because of
antiquated friction material and transmission fluid technology during the
1950’s and 60’s but this was before my time so I’m not able to truly
discuss the legitimacy of the possibility. I can, however, say with
certainty that it’s not an issue with 99.9% of the vehicles in service
today. If your owner’s manual is in the glove box and not painted on the
wall of a cave, you are probably good to go.
•“Sludge” is all that was holding the transmission together and when
it gets cleaned out the trans in going to fail immediately. Guess what? If
you have sludge in your transmission, it’s already bad and in need of a
repair.
•Once in a while a flush is performed, usually at a quick lube
operation, and the transmission is not refilled correctly- resulting in
failure soon thereafter. Of course the incorrect fluid level is not
recognized as the culprit- the transmission flush is! Many automatic
transmissions have fairly complicated fluid level checking and filling
procedures that are best left to a transmission repair expert to perform.
•People have unrealistic expectations. A transmission flush is no more
likely to fix a failing transmission than an engine oil change is to fix a
major internal engine problem. Both of these things are great to do
regularly but they are maintenance- not a fix for a problem.
•The reality is that most people don’t think about their
transmissions until the day that they have a problem. Jim’s transmission
was on borrowed time- it was going to fail anyway but now that it has, he is
going to perpetuate the myth. If he ever hears someone mention a
transmission flush, he’s going to proclaim, “I had that done and my
transmission blew up within a month!”
I have been in the transmission repair industry since 1987 and can honestly
say that I can’t recall a single time where I saw a healthy transmission
get a flush or a fluid change and subsequently have a problem. A
transmission flush is the best maintenance that one can do to extend the
life of your automatic transmission, don’t miss out on the benefits because
of the nonsense that exists surrounding changing your transmission fluid!
Anyone can feel free to repost this as long as you leave the "about the
author" part intact.
About the author:
John Lombardo is co-owner of http://www.importperformancetrans.com">IPT Performance Transmissions and has been in the high performance industry for over 20 years. |
H***m
发帖数: 128 | 16 It is your choice. Many people created new process for money. A flush would
be cost more than refill. Most of its drain plug has a magnetic to collect
the dirt. Good luck.
【在 l*****d 的大作中提到】
: 那就搞不懂flush的意义何在，如果没有用，谁发明的这个做法？
|
g********d
发帖数: 19244 | 17 车，越修越坏，越坏越修。
没事别折腾
尤其是古董车
【在 f***y 的大作中提到】
: Avalon 2000，无前任车主的维修记录，不知道之前transmission fluid有没有flush过
: 没有。15.5k mile，现在transmission fluid很脏，修车店说flush可能会让
: transmission坏掉，不换的话transmission也得坏，还能有多久寿命不好说，一般的
: drain&refill意义不大，修车师傅说这就是个gamble。。
: 借车版宝地问问，这玩意换还是不换。。。
|
l****n
发帖数: 768 | 18 为啥我这里flush要150，drain refill 并且换filter要250 |
c*****g
发帖数: 716 | 19 换，但是不要flush. drain and refill。
【在 f***y 的大作中提到】
: Avalon 2000，无前任车主的维修记录，不知道之前transmission fluid有没有flush过
: 没有。15.5k mile，现在transmission fluid很脏，修车店说flush可能会让
: transmission坏掉，不换的话transmission也得坏，还能有多久寿命不好说，一般的
: drain&refill意义不大，修车师傅说这就是个gamble。。
: 借车版宝地问问，这玩意换还是不换。。。
|
u*********r
发帖数: 176 | 20 06年的时候我95年的吉普大切本来好好的，结果小店的人说要flush,然后就搞了，虽然
说没有坏，但是trans开始漏油之类的了，我觉得最好不flush为好 |
