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Badminton版 - 人民日报:羽毛球事件值得深思 别把无辜者放上道德天平 (转载)
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f*****0
发帖数: 166
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【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
发信人: RVN (银河战舰的桅杆), 信区: Olympics
标 题: 人民日报:羽毛球事件值得深思 别把无辜者放上道德天平
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 2 21:01:48 2012, 美东)
http://sports.people.com.cn/london2012/GB/n/2012/0803/c221689-1
羽毛球女双比赛似乎成了伦敦奥运会媒体当前最热炒的话题。国内媒体大多数同仇敌忾
一致声讨,“耻辱”、“不道德”、“丢人”等各种最能宣泄感情的词汇铺天盖地压向
中国羽毛球选手。不堪重负的于洋甚至透露出退役的打算。世界第一的女双选手就此被
不合理的规则葬送了奥运生涯。
在这样的时刻,我很惊诧国内媒体丝毫不冷静不假思索地几乎一致的声讨。连英国BBC
都特别指出,中国媒体为何要批判自己的选手。著名的《金融时报》在一片喧嚣声中发
出了与众不同的声音:“体育界充斥着运动员为了最终获胜而在某个阶段不愿尽力的事
例。游泳和田径选手可能放慢自己的节奏。网球明星在比分落后时可能放弃一局,以节
省体力。”《金融时报》开头便为中国女羽辩解,“参加比赛的团队明白,他们在最初
几个回合的成绩,将决定他们在下一轮比赛中与哪一个队相遇。事实上,体育爱好者们
常常看到运动员故意不尽力。”“如果要惩罚,那应该追查始作俑者的责任,是不合理
的游戏规则。”
当然,“消极比赛”毕竟让现场观众觉得花了冤枉钱,很愤怒。但在奥运赛场上,这样
的“消极比赛”屡见不鲜。正因如此,所以规则制定者们才要去不断修改完善比赛规则
,以便使体育比赛更加激烈更具观赏性。但是,在新的规则没有颁布的时候,旧的不合
理规则一旦受到质疑出现问题时,难道就要把运动员当成牺牲品而送上公平道德的祭坛
上去接受审判吗?
为了奥运会,4年来,八名女孩子把自己的花季青春都奉献给了艰苦的训练,国际羽联
做出的这个决定是否有些草率,值得探讨。
总之伦敦奥运会才进行了1/3,以后还不知会发生什么事情。但是在赛场内外,我们时
时都能感受到对中国的一些不公正评论。就像我们在国际舞台上,这种围攻太平常了。
本来,我们在国际上的话语权就不强,因此,在面对突发事件时,我们更不能做使亲者
痛仇者快的事情。三思而后行。
我想,没有上面的暗示或者同意,于洋和王晓理也不会轻易去输球的。要知道。她们毕
竟是世界公认排名第一的女双选手。如今拿她们作为牺牲品替罪羊,很难去说“公平”
二字。现在,她们成为众口一词的声讨对象,我十分难过。
我不是为消极比赛这样的现象辩解,但是,在乱象后面我们需要看得更深一些,否则,
就事论事只能误导舆论。
H*7
发帖数: 4894
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/01/157703869/badminto
Is What The 'Badminton Eight' Did Really So Bad?
Eight Olympic badminton athletes have been thrown out of the London Games
after being charged by the Badminton World Federation with "not using one's
best efforts to win a match" — which is against the rules of the sport.
Because even some journalists may have forgotten badminton's rules, it
seemed time to take a fresh look.
Ah, Sections 4.5 and 4.16 of the Badminton World Federation players' code.
Much like the debate over whether to use the French or English translation
of U.N. Resolution 242, or the meaning of the comma in the Second Amendment
of the Constitution, the nuances of these two clauses will surely be debated
in the academy for years to come ... well, in badminton academies, at least.
The sections stipulate that a player employ "one's best efforts to win a
match" and bans "conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or
detrimental to the sport." That's great as far as that goes, but there is no
definition of the terms.
Most paid spectators at Tuesday's badminton women's doubles matches played
Potter Stewart, knowing "detrimental" when they saw "detrimental" — as four
pairs of players clearly tried to throw matches in order to influence their
draws in the tournament's quarterfinals.
The BBC regarded such tactics as an all-out assault on what is good and holy
about swatting an apparatus fashioned from the left wing of a goose.
"I'm sorry, it's blindly obvious what's going on. It's as if neither player
wants to win the match. There's a simple answer: Tell both players, if you
don't play properly, you're both thrown out of the tournament," intoned the
BBC's announcer at Wembley Arena.
"Tonight has left me with a very nasty taste in the mouth," he added. "What
I have seen tonight is not sport; it is a disgrace."
But it is sport. Manipulating the seeding or draws in tournaments has a long
tradition in sport. And in the early rounds of track or swimming
competitions, athletes who know they've qualified for later rounds will
routinely not push to win a heat.
Isn't easing up in the final few meters and ceding the tape, or the wall, "
not trying to win?"
In the NBA, teams routinely lose games in order to improve their position in
the draft. Acknowledgement of this reality did not just leave NBA
Commissioner David Stern with a bitter taste in his mouth; it put an idea in
his head. And today, the NBA has a lottery to determine draft selection.
That the draft lottery hasn't curbed the scourge of tanking doesn't change
the fact that playing not to win is endemic to sport. There might be more at
play in the case of badminton because Team China seems to be at the center
of such tactics.
Badzine, which calls itself the World's #1 Badminton Magazine, and I can
offer no counterclaims, published findings that show that in international
competition, the Chinese frequently tank quite explicitly by claiming injury
or simply forfeiting matches whenever Chinese players are pitted against
each other.
If the Olympic badminton players could be faulted for anything, it's for not
throwing their matches better.
Sending endless serves out of bounds and hitting returns into the net —
that's no way to tank. Points must be played aboveboard, until the critical
moment when a shot goes awry. The players should have strained and gasped,
and inspected their racquets for holes after misplays.
Then the fans would have gotten a good enough show, and the BBC's broadcast
team would have been left with a much more pleasant taste.
e*******8
发帖数: 54
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运动员也是受害者, 丑闻的根源是教练和领导。别一出事就躲到一边去了。

BBC

【在 f*****0 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
: 发信人: RVN (银河战舰的桅杆), 信区: Olympics
: 标 题: 人民日报:羽毛球事件值得深思 别把无辜者放上道德天平
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 2 21:01:48 2012, 美东)
: http://sports.people.com.cn/london2012/GB/n/2012/0803/c221689-1
: 羽毛球女双比赛似乎成了伦敦奥运会媒体当前最热炒的话题。国内媒体大多数同仇敌忾
: 一致声讨,“耻辱”、“不道德”、“丢人”等各种最能宣泄感情的词汇铺天盖地压向
: 中国羽毛球选手。不堪重负的于洋甚至透露出退役的打算。世界第一的女双选手就此被
: 不合理的规则葬送了奥运生涯。
: 在这样的时刻,我很惊诧国内媒体丝毫不冷静不假思索地几乎一致的声讨。连英国BBC

n*n
发帖数: 1378
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说个和羽毛球无关的,
我感觉这种喜欢站在道德致高点的人,很喜欢。。。
算了,还是不说了

BBC

【在 f*****0 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
: 发信人: RVN (银河战舰的桅杆), 信区: Olympics
: 标 题: 人民日报:羽毛球事件值得深思 别把无辜者放上道德天平
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 2 21:01:48 2012, 美东)
: http://sports.people.com.cn/london2012/GB/n/2012/0803/c221689-1
: 羽毛球女双比赛似乎成了伦敦奥运会媒体当前最热炒的话题。国内媒体大多数同仇敌忾
: 一致声讨,“耻辱”、“不道德”、“丢人”等各种最能宣泄感情的词汇铺天盖地压向
: 中国羽毛球选手。不堪重负的于洋甚至透露出退役的打算。世界第一的女双选手就此被
: 不合理的规则葬送了奥运生涯。
: 在这样的时刻,我很惊诧国内媒体丝毫不冷静不假思索地几乎一致的声讨。连英国BBC

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