k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 1 Masahiro Tanaka, the 25-year-old Japanese right-hander who was 24-0 for the
Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, has agreed to a seven-year, $155 million
contract with the New York Yankees, sources said Wednesday morning.
As part of the new rules governing the system that allows Japanese players t
o sign with a U.S. club, the Yankees will pay an additional $20 million to R
akuten. Tanaka can opt out of the contract after four years.
For $175 million, then, the Yankees sign the best starting pitcher in a thin
free-agent market. Due to his 53-9 record over the past three seasons, an E
RA in that time well under two, a clever split-fingered fastball and his you
th, Tanaka is perhaps the most hyped pitcher to come from Japan since Hideki
Irabu (to the Yankees) more than 15 years ago. Many scouts believe he will
be somewhat less effective, however, than Yu Darvish, who in the past two se
asons with the Texas Rangers is 29-18 and has become the ace of that staff.
Tanaka had drawn heavy interest from across the game. The Los Angeles Dodger
s, Chicago Cubs, Arizona Diamondbacks and Chicago White Sox, along with the
Yankees, were especially involved. He had 30 days – until Friday – to sign
with a U.S. team, and in that time met with several clubs in Los Angeles.
Known in Japan by the nickname “Ma-kun,” Tanaka is a veteran of Olympic an
d World Baseball Classic competition. He has twice led Nippon Professional B
aseball in wins, ERA and complete games, and in 2011 led the league in strik
eouts. Also, he has twice been named the league’s top starting pitcher.
Still, the transition to the U.S. game has been difficult for some well-rega
rded Japanese pitchers. And while Tanaka seeks to follow in the footsteps of
Hideo Nomo, Hiroki Kuroda and Darvish, there is a risk he will not adapt. D
aisuke Matsuzaka had one exceptional season for the Boston Red Sox. He cost
the Red Sox more than $100 million in posting fees and salary. The Yankees s
pent more than $46 million on Kei Igawa in 2006. He won two big-league games
. Irabu, who signed a $12.8 million contract with the Yankees (after being t
raded from the San Diego Padres) before the current posting system was devel
oped, never seemed comfortable with the U.S. game and retired with a losing
record.
The Yankees are betting Tanaka has the talent and temperament to stand at or
near the top of their rotation. While he lacks the power of Darvish, Tanaka
does throw a fastball in the mid-90s. He has an uncommonly good split-finge
red fastball and an effective slider. Tanaka threw significant innings as a
young pitcher – 186 1/3 as an 18-year-old and a career-high 226 1/3 at 22 –
and often threw more pitches than his U.S. counterparts, though that seems
of little concern to most scouts.
The Yankees, while counting their dollars against the luxury tax, were the f
avorites to land Tanaka, in part because of their financial wherewithal and
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 2 v5...
the
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E
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Hideki
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Masahiro Tanaka, the 25-year-old Japanese right-hander who was 24-0 for the : Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, has agreed to a seven-year, $155 million : contract with the New York Yankees, sources said Wednesday morning. : As part of the new rules governing the system that allows Japanese players t : o sign with a U.S. club, the Yankees will pay an additional $20 million to R : akuten. Tanaka can opt out of the contract after four years. : For $175 million, then, the Yankees sign the best starting pitcher in a thin : free-agent market. Due to his 53-9 record over the past three seasons, an E : RA in that time well under two, a clever split-fingered fastball and his you : th, Tanaka is perhaps the most hyped pitcher to come from Japan since Hideki
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 3 文中那个15年前的Hideki Irabu不知道当时的成绩怎么样
players
to
an
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : v5... : : the : million : t : R : thin : E : you : Hideki
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Irabu
Death
Irabu was found dead in his home in Los Angeles on July 27, 2011, in an
apparent suicide. He was reported to have hanged himself.[17] He left behind
his wife and two children.[18] Irabu's autopsy showed he was inebriated at
the time of his death. He was reportedly despondent because his wife and
children were leaving him.[19]
MLB statistics
Win–loss record 34–35
Earned run average 5.15
Strikeouts 405
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 文中那个15年前的Hideki Irabu不知道当时的成绩怎么样 : : players : to : an
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 5 我日!
behind
at
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Irabu : Death : Irabu was found dead in his home in Los Angeles on July 27, 2011, in an : apparent suicide. He was reported to have hanged himself.[17] He left behind : his wife and two children.[18] Irabu's autopsy showed he was inebriated at : the time of his death. He was reportedly despondent because his wife and : children were leaving him.[19] : MLB statistics : Win–loss record 34–35 : Earned run average 5.15
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 7 杨基效力期间成绩(日本裔)
伊良部秀辉(97~99年)74场29胜20败 ERA 4.80
井川 庆(07~11年)16场2胜4败 ERA 6.66
五十岚亮太(12年) 2场0胜0败 ERA 12.00
黑田 博树(12年~) 65场27胜24败 ERA 3.31
松井 秀喜(03~09年)916场 Home run140 RBI597 Batting average0.292
铃木 一郎(12年~) 217场 Home run12 RBI62 Batting average0.280
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 文中那个15年前的Hideki Irabu不知道当时的成绩怎么样 : : players : to : an
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 8 貌似袜子的几个日裔成绩更好些...
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 杨基效力期间成绩(日本裔) : 伊良部秀辉(97~99年)74场29胜20败 ERA 4.80 : 井川 庆(07~11年)16场2胜4败 ERA 6.66 : 五十岚亮太(12年) 2场0胜0败 ERA 12.00 : 黑田 博树(12年~) 65场27胜24败 ERA 3.31 : 松井 秀喜(03~09年)916场 Home run140 RBI597 Batting average0.292 : 铃木 一郎(12年~) 217场 Home run12 RBI62 Batting average0.280
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 9 投手派相当的不给力啊
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 杨基效力期间成绩(日本裔) : 伊良部秀辉(97~99年)74场29胜20败 ERA 4.80 : 井川 庆(07~11年)16场2胜4败 ERA 6.66 : 五十岚亮太(12年) 2场0胜0败 ERA 12.00 : 黑田 博树(12年~) 65场27胜24败 ERA 3.31 : 松井 秀喜(03~09年)916场 Home run140 RBI597 Batting average0.292 : 铃木 一郎(12年~) 217场 Home run12 RBI62 Batting average0.280
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 10 好像有个投手叫松阪大副(matsuzaka)挺厉害。。别的人印象不深
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 貌似袜子的几个日裔成绩更好些...
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 11 日本的只认识扭腰跟博士敦两个城市吗?
感情是不是很少到其他球队去的
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 貌似袜子的几个日裔成绩更好些...
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 12 井川(igawa)当时是个大败笔,后期基本上是白拿工资,上不了一线。这次的Tanaka
可以期待一下
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 投手派相当的不给力啊
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 13 Kershaw争取每个系列当3场的SP吧,反正年轻,应该能顶住
【在 M******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : shame on Dodgers!
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k******i 发帖数: 5774 | 14 不是说 Tanaka is perhaps the most hyped pitcher to come from Japan since
Hideki
我看不自杀算万幸了,不准备期待什么了
非要期待,还不如期待扬基的打手们
Tanaka
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 井川(igawa)当时是个大败笔,后期基本上是白拿工资,上不了一线。这次的Tanaka : 可以期待一下
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 15 和他一起夺冠那个低头不看投手的setup man也不错.还有去年冠军2个日本投手...
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好像有个投手叫松阪大副(matsuzaka)挺厉害。。别的人印象不深
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 16 TEX还有个日本伊朗混血貌似挺牛的。主要日本一冒出有好的选手洋基经常去抢,别的
一般的选手来不了洋基,去别的队后发挥也都一般
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 日本的只认识扭腰跟博士敦两个城市吗? : 感情是不是很少到其他球队去的
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 17 英雄记得从道奇开始的...
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 日本的只认识扭腰跟博士敦两个城市吗? : 感情是不是很少到其他球队去的
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 18 主要日本的好球员都来美了,日本国内是山中无老虎猴子称大王,成绩多好都不一定靠
谱,看来了后能不能适应吧
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不是说 Tanaka is perhaps the most hyped pitcher to come from Japan since : Hideki : 我看不自杀算万幸了,不准备期待什么了 : 非要期待,还不如期待扬基的打手们 : : Tanaka
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l*****a 发帖数: 3630 | 19 That is why Yankees sucks in recent years... |
z******n 发帖数: 1223 | 20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_play
Active player里面,达比修有(游骑兵)、岩隈久志(水手)都很成功
还有一个上赛季靠耍活宝出名的(现在是Free Agent)
http://m.mlb.com/video/v30590927/kawasaki-and-derosa-on-intenti
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 日本的只认识扭腰跟博士敦两个城市吗? : 感情是不是很少到其他球队去的
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z******n 发帖数: 1223 | 21 不看捕手的是Hideki Okajima (冈岛 秀树)
2007年夺冠时好几次和Papelbon联手包打三局以上。
Tazawa、Uehara和红袜吉祥物一起带着奖杯回日本,Tazawa的造型比较亮瞎了:这是吃
了多少寿司啊
http://m.mlb.com/video/v31315281/tazawa-and-uehara-bring-world-
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 和他一起夺冠那个低头不看投手的setup man也不错.还有去年冠军2个日本投手...
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z******n 发帖数: 1223 | 22 有群众反应是为了熬绿卡?(好像是台湾棒球维基馆说的)
一般被下放小联盟很多球员就申请release了,但是井川庆就是下放到多底都肯去,一
直到合同结束——反正交易不出去
http://www.nownews.com/n/2011/07/26/504310
Tanaka
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 井川(igawa)当时是个大败笔,后期基本上是白拿工资,上不了一线。这次的Tanaka : 可以期待一下
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 24 嗯,他是拿到了绿卡,不过觉得对他来说作用不大,台湾人有点扯吧
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有群众反应是为了熬绿卡?(好像是台湾棒球维基馆说的) : 一般被下放小联盟很多球员就申请release了,但是井川庆就是下放到多底都肯去,一 : 直到合同结束——反正交易不出去 : http://www.nownews.com/n/2011/07/26/504310 : : Tanaka
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h****c 发帖数: 10494 | 25 转会截止日期就是月底好像28号,其实时间很紧,上周看多数人都觉得得等明年了
【在 s***o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这就算搞定了?感觉没什么drama啊
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K**7 发帖数: 6610 | 26 真是不差钱啊
arod到底还要不要付工资啊?
the
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t
R
thin
E
you
Hideki
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Masahiro Tanaka, the 25-year-old Japanese right-hander who was 24-0 for the : Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, has agreed to a seven-year, $155 million : contract with the New York Yankees, sources said Wednesday morning. : As part of the new rules governing the system that allows Japanese players t : o sign with a U.S. club, the Yankees will pay an additional $20 million to R : akuten. Tanaka can opt out of the contract after four years. : For $175 million, then, the Yankees sign the best starting pitcher in a thin : free-agent market. Due to his 53-9 record over the past three seasons, an E : RA in that time well under two, a clever split-fingered fastball and his you : th, Tanaka is perhaps the most hyped pitcher to come from Japan since Hideki
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M******k 发帖数: 27573 | 27 对,我记得这主儿是松阪带来的添头,结果没想到真派上了用场,他是左投吧.
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不看捕手的是Hideki Okajima (冈岛 秀树) : 2007年夺冠时好几次和Papelbon联手包打三局以上。 : Tazawa、Uehara和红袜吉祥物一起带着奖杯回日本,Tazawa的造型比较亮瞎了:这是吃 : 了多少寿司啊 : http://m.mlb.com/video/v31315281/tazawa-and-uehara-bring-world-
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J*C 发帖数: 4579 | 28 那是真的 他自己講的 請看日文訪談
雖然我也覺得他拿綠卡沒啥用
来季、5年契約の5年目を迎える井川はグリーンカード取得の申請を行っている。「
指紋は採取済みで、年内には取得できると思う」。それは来季終了後、マイナー契約
でもいいから米国でプレーを続けたいという意思表示の表れでもある。米国内で自由
に働くことができるビザ(査証)があれば、契約が結びやすいからだ。そのためにも
、「来年は結果を出して、勝負をかけられるようにしたい」と意気込む。9月のプレ
ーオフが終わり次第、オフを迎える井川だが、来季に向けた準備はもう始まっている。
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/sports/baseball/mlb/2012/columndt
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,他是拿到了绿卡,不过觉得对他来说作用不大,台湾人有点扯吧
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J*C 发帖数: 4579 | 29 最早是道奇开始找亚洲人的吧
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 英雄记得从道奇开始的...
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t*a 发帖数: 18880 | 30 怕送班寂寞...
是吃
【在 M******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对,我记得这主儿是松阪带来的添头,结果没想到真派上了用场,他是左投吧.
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l*****a 发帖数: 3630 | 31 In fact, if tanaka pitches well, he will opt out after 4th year, that is a $
108M/4y deal, or $27M AVV. If he goes bust, then the $175M/7y will always be
a joke. Anyways, the best result for the yankees is they get a just fair
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s***o 发帖数: 2191 | 32 我觉着Tanaka能拿这么多钱真得好好感谢Darvish一下
【在 K**7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 真是不差钱啊 : arod到底还要不要付工资啊? : : the : million : t : R : thin : E : you
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i*f 发帖数: 85 | 33 倒也不是。Suzuki去了西雅图,Darvish去了tex,DiceK去了boston。洋基过去被Igawa
这种败笔搞怕了,前些年消停了不少。估计看到Darvish的成功又对日本投手恢复了点
信心。
DiceK在boston毁誉参半,但一般的共识是不成功。
【在 h****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : TEX还有个日本伊朗混血貌似挺牛的。主要日本一冒出有好的选手洋基经常去抢,别的 : 一般的选手来不了洋基,去别的队后发挥也都一般
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A**d 发帖数: 13310 | 34 最重要的是阳极农场早就空了,直接从日本搞投手不用像在美国签top FA
得补贴draft.
Igawa
【在 i*f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 倒也不是。Suzuki去了西雅图,Darvish去了tex,DiceK去了boston。洋基过去被Igawa : 这种败笔搞怕了,前些年消停了不少。估计看到Darvish的成功又对日本投手恢复了点 : 信心。 : DiceK在boston毁誉参半,但一般的共识是不成功。
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n*******e 发帖数: 2213 | 35 nod nod!
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 最重要的是阳极农场早就空了,直接从日本搞投手不用像在美国签top FA : 得补贴draft. : : Igawa
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M******k 发帖数: 27573 | 36 这些日本人英语真烂。
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 怕送班寂寞... : : 是吃
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D***e 发帖数: 48486 | 38 十几年前了吧
【在 t***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当年NYY那个Matsui啥时候来的?
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J*C 发帖数: 4579 | 39 黑田树博在洋基也算OK吧
Igawa
【在 i*f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 倒也不是。Suzuki去了西雅图,Darvish去了tex,DiceK去了boston。洋基过去被Igawa : 这种败笔搞怕了,前些年消停了不少。估计看到Darvish的成功又对日本投手恢复了点 : 信心。 : DiceK在boston毁誉参半,但一般的共识是不成功。
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t***a 发帖数: 7982 | 40 印象里他表现好像也不错,posting fee多少?
【在 D***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 十几年前了吧
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D***e 发帖数: 48486 | 41 费用问题得问专家
他美国之前,在日本的外号MS就是怪物了
不过到美国打击率只能说还好了
日本投手的球速平均得比美国慢不少呢
【在 t***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 印象里他表现好像也不错,posting fee多少?
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n*******e 发帖数: 2213 | 42 Hideki?
He was the best power hitter in Nippon League.
【在 D***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 费用问题得问专家 : 他美国之前,在日本的外号MS就是怪物了 : 不过到美国打击率只能说还好了 : 日本投手的球速平均得比美国慢不少呢
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D***e 发帖数: 48486 | 43 不知道现在还搞不搞了
至少90年代,每次MLB赛季结束后
会整个队到日本比赛,多数都不是明星球员,内比赛就能看出MLB和日本投手的差距了
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Hideki? : He was the best power hitter in Nippon League.
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t***a 发帖数: 7982 | 44 看来还是一尺肉这种选手比较适合
【在 D***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不知道现在还搞不搞了 : 至少90年代,每次MLB赛季结束后 : 会整个队到日本比赛,多数都不是明星球员,内比赛就能看出MLB和日本投手的差距了
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z******n 发帖数: 1223 | 45 Hideki Matsui是自由球员签约未经posting:在读卖巨人呆了10季(1993-2002),合
约结束前一年拒绝了读卖巨人队6年$64M的offer。
Ichiro的posting fee则是$13.125M
【在 t***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 印象里他表现好像也不错,posting fee多少?
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t***a 发帖数: 7982 | 46 Tanaka这个20M是记录?
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Hideki Matsui是自由球员签约未经posting:在读卖巨人呆了10季(1993-2002),合 : 约结束前一年拒绝了读卖巨人队6年$64M的offer。 : Ichiro的posting fee则是$13.125M
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z******n 发帖数: 1223 | 47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_system
Yu Darvish posting fee $57,103,411,工资6年$60M
Dice-K posting fee $51,111,111(.11),工资6年$52M
今年果断的修改了规则,以后20M就是posting fee的上限了
这样可以花更多的钱在球员工资,而不是posting fee上
Tanaka 7年$155M
有专家说要真是去了Rangers每天见Darvish会很尴尬:平均年工资差一倍多
【在 t***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Tanaka这个20M是记录?
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