n*****g
发帖数: 25 | 1 One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
the existence of God.
For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
believe that science actually show the existence of God.
in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
such...
another example, the set of irrational | o*****e
发帖数: 435 | 2 All in all, what you wanted to say is:
since there are things that human beings don't/can't know/understand
about this universe, the unknown shows the existence of God.
But I think this logic is ridiculous.
on
speculate
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
: the existence of God.
: For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
: heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
: believe that science actually show the existence of God.
: in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
: entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
: such...
: another example, the set of irrational
| o*****e
发帖数: 435 | 3 So show me the ARGUMENTS and EVIDENCS:
Why does entory point to the existence of GOD.
Why does the fact that the set of irrational
number is larger than the the set of rational
number point to the existence of GOD.
You can assume that I understand them.
and
some
of
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
: the existence of God.
: For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
: heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
: believe that science actually show the existence of God.
: in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
: entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
: such...
: another example, the set of irrational
| n*****g
发帖数: 25 | 4 I don't necessarily 100% agree with the following, but it is enjoyable to read
even from atheist point of view because one can learn something.
Notes:
1. Time's Arrows: Scientific Attitudes Toward Time, by Richard Morris, Simon
and Shuster 1985).
2. Time's Arrow & Archimedes' Point : New Directions for the Physics of Time,
by Huw Price (Oxford U. Press, 1992).
3. The Arrow of Time : A Voyage Through Science to Solve Time's Greatest
Mystery by Peter Coveney, and Roger Highfield (Fawcett Books, 19 | n*****g
发帖数: 25 | 5 The following is not complete, but a very good start.
NF
http://www.propaganda101.com/LogicAndEpistemology/CalculusOfDeterminism.htm
FREEWILL AND IRRATIONAL DETERMINISM: THE CALCULUS OF FREEWILL
THE RECONCILIATION OF FREEWILL AND DETERMINISM
Freewill is the ability of individuals to decide and control their own
destiny. Determinism, as a model for describing the universe, posits this:
Given the initial state of a system, all future and all past states of that
system can be extrapolated.
Fr | s********k
发帖数: 107 | 6 First, my major is physics, and I partly understand what the entropy is. Of
course, I can't say I fully understand that, and nobody can claim that
especially it is related with gravity, black hole, ....
Entropy is a statistical concept, so short term fluctuation can allow entropy
to decrese in a small system, this has already been simulated and observed.
The issue of entropy in universe is subtle and has not been resolved. We don't
kunderstand what exactly happened when matter fall into black ho
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
: the existence of God.
: For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
: heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
: believe that science actually show the existence of God.
: in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
: entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
: such...
: another example, the set of irrational
| H****h
发帖数: 1037 | 7 请解释一下你的第二个例子怎么提供了
关于上帝存在性的有利证据。
on
speculate
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
: the existence of God.
: For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
: heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
: believe that science actually show the existence of God.
: in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
: entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
: such...
: another example, the set of irrational
| o*****e
发帖数: 435 | 8 Thanks. But there is too much.
Can you briefly introduce the arugments and the evidences
that show the how entropy (and the difference between rational
number set and irration number set) supports the exsistence of GOD.
I cannot see any relationship between them?
read
Time,
Press,
Freeman
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't necessarily 100% agree with the following, but it is enjoyable to read
: even from atheist point of view because one can learn something.
: Notes:
: 1. Time's Arrows: Scientific Attitudes Toward Time, by Richard Morris, Simon
: and Shuster 1985).
: 2. Time's Arrow & Archimedes' Point : New Directions for the Physics of Time,
: by Huw Price (Oxford U. Press, 1992).
: 3. The Arrow of Time : A Voyage Through Science to Solve Time's Greatest
: Mystery by Peter Coveney, and Roger Highfield (Fawcett Books, 19
| a*****t
发帖数: 216 | 9
on
Do you understand science? Then you must know that science is not all about
what we've found, more important aspect of science is how we found it -- the
method we used to solve problems and pursuing the truth. As far as I know,
there's no scientific evidence that support God(s) might exist.
speculate
Do they have any logical link or physical evidence to support the God exist?
It's exactly the behavior I'd expect from those close minded Christians who
knows nothing (or conveniently forgot abo
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: One needs to understand science to understand the use of science to reflect on
: the existence of God.
: For example, entropy -- the arrow of time -- points to a chaotic system with
: heat death. But the universe is very ordered, so many scientist start to
: believe that science actually show the existence of God.
: in order to make any kind of discussion, you need to understand what is
: entropy, why is it the arrow of time, 2nd law of thermodynamics such and
: such...
: another example, the set of irrational
| H****h
发帖数: 1037 | 10 I know this proof. The question is HOW does this relate to the
existance of God?
infinite
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: The following is not complete, but a very good start.
: NF
: http://www.propaganda101.com/LogicAndEpistemology/CalculusOfDeterminism.htm
: FREEWILL AND IRRATIONAL DETERMINISM: THE CALCULUS OF FREEWILL
: THE RECONCILIATION OF FREEWILL AND DETERMINISM
: Freewill is the ability of individuals to decide and control their own
: destiny. Determinism, as a model for describing the universe, posits this:
: Given the initial state of a system, all future and all past states of that
: system can be extrapolated.
: Fr
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