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Biology版 - 俺给nature文的评价:没发出来,帐号也被封了(好几年的老帐号(转载)
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c******k
发帖数: 8998
1
【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
发信人: xiache (hello), 信区: Olympics
标 题: 俺给nature文的评价:没发出来,帐号也被封了(好几年的老帐号)。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 3 16:07:28 2012, 美东)
**
Even with the correction, the author could not make his point supported. The
author did not mention that Ye has a long history of participation in the
400m individual medley. Here is a quick list of her past results not
mentioned by the author:
2010 Asian Games...............................4'33''79
2011 7th China Cities Games................4'33''66
Obviously the author did "cherry picking" his data, a 4’35’’xx one, might
be in an attempt to get a more "dramatic" difference for supporting his
conclusion.
Ye participates another game, 200m individual medley. The author may also
want to compare Ye's record on her 200m individual medley:
2010 Chinese Nationals..........................2'10''32
2010 China Water Games.......................2'10''87
2010 Asian Games ................................2'09''37
2011 Chinese Nationals..........................2'10''01
2011 World Aquatics Championships.......2'08''90
Quite contrary, the results seem to be quite consistent. Abrupt increase?
Unlikely. Is it possible that the "doping" specifically act in 400m but not
200m? Quite surprising to me and I hope there are experts could examine this
possibility.
Why Ye’s 400m got improved this much? I spend a few minutes reading past
reports on Ye's career. What I learned is Ye was previously mostly focusing
on her 200m individual medley and she recently put much effort on her 400m.
This could be a sound explanation. Had the author spent this few minutes? I
guess not.
Finally, I am surprised when reading this description:
“Nature examines whether and how an athlete's performance history and the
limits of human physiology could be used to catch dopers.”
Obviously this article represents NATURE’s opinion. As it appears in NATURE
, I suppose it should be SCIENTIFIC. However, that seems be something
missing. I thus would strongly suggest that NATURE consider adding a little
SCIENCE gradient into it.
**
Here is what I got back:
"This account is banned
• This account has been banned from commenting due to posting of
comments classified as inappropriate or other violations of our Terms of
Service."
a*******t
发帖数: 10093
2
那就直接给白春礼写信

The

【在 c******k 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
: 发信人: xiache (hello), 信区: Olympics
: 标 题: 俺给nature文的评价:没发出来,帐号也被封了(好几年的老帐号)。
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 3 16:07:28 2012, 美东)
: **
: Even with the correction, the author could not make his point supported. The
: author did not mention that Ye has a long history of participation in the
: 400m individual medley. Here is a quick list of her past results not
: mentioned by the author:
: 2010 Asian Games...............................4'33''79

b**********D
发帖数: 145
3
好帖
b*****n
发帖数: 1841
4
每次看到这种有数据,有逻辑的帖子,我就很赞叹。这个才是受过科学训练的比起一般
人的厉害之处。
那些骂“shame on nature”的帖子已经不能满足我的口味了。

The

【在 c******k 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
: 发信人: xiache (hello), 信区: Olympics
: 标 题: 俺给nature文的评价:没发出来,帐号也被封了(好几年的老帐号)。
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 3 16:07:28 2012, 美东)
: **
: Even with the correction, the author could not make his point supported. The
: author did not mention that Ye has a long history of participation in the
: 400m individual medley. Here is a quick list of her past results not
: mentioned by the author:
: 2010 Asian Games...............................4'33''79

p********r
发帖数: 69
5
那就直接发到所有编辑的邮箱去!

The

【在 c******k 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
: 发信人: xiache (hello), 信区: Olympics
: 标 题: 俺给nature文的评价:没发出来,帐号也被封了(好几年的老帐号)。
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 3 16:07:28 2012, 美东)
: **
: Even with the correction, the author could not make his point supported. The
: author did not mention that Ye has a long history of participation in the
: 400m individual medley. Here is a quick list of her past results not
: mentioned by the author:
: 2010 Asian Games...............................4'33''79

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