w****b
发帖数: 623 | 1 None vul, IMP.
AKQxx Jxx
KJ8x Q
Kxx Axxx
x AJT9x
1D
1S 2S?
3C? 4H? (splinter in support of C -- can't be S, as u wld bid
3H then)
4N? 5H (2 key without trump Q)
6S
1) Assign the percentage of fault
2) which bid is worst? | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 2 Both vul. The EW hands:
West East
xxx AKQxxx
Qx KTxx
Qxxxxx x
xx Kx
The bidding:
N E S W
1C 1S 2C P
P x P 2S
3C 3H P 3S
4C P P P
1. Assign blame to EW.
2. Which bid is the worst? | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 3 east bid well, west should have bid 4S over 3H for sure.
The worst bid is 3S, others are fine.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Both vul. The EW hands:
: West East
: xxx AKQxxx
: Qx KTxx
: Qxxxxx x
: xx Kx
: The bidding:
: N E S W
: 1C 1S 2C P
: P x P 2S
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 4
west
3s, 2s has already shown a very weak hand, when pd 3h, he has qx doubleton h,
and with ruff potential, so he should jump to 4s after east's 3h.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Both vul. The EW hands:
: West East
: xxx AKQxxx
: Qx KTxx
: Qxxxxx x
: xx Kx
: The bidding:
: N E S W
: 1C 1S 2C P
: P x P 2S
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 5 East 80%. Worst bid, 1S. Holding a 4 loser hand, this is certainly
double-then-spade bid. After 1S, it's hard for both sides to catch up.
I will say that double-then-spade is more distributional, and
spade-then-double is more point count oriented.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Both vul. The EW hands:
: West East
: xxx AKQxxx
: Qx KTxx
: Qxxxxx x
: xx Kx
: The bidding:
: N E S W
: 1C 1S 2C P
: P x P 2S
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 6 4 loser? Where does that come from??
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: East 80%. Worst bid, 1S. Holding a 4 loser hand, this is certainly
: double-then-spade bid. After 1S, it's hard for both sides to catch up.
: I will say that double-then-spade is more distributional, and
: spade-then-double is more point count oriented.
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 7 You have 2 losers in hearts, one in diamond and one in club. Your pair of K's
got promoted
after the opener. There is a fair chance that both rounded Aces are well
placed. If so, ur
hand is equivalent to
AKQxxx
A10xx
x
Ax
Certainly much more than a lot of regular 15 counter.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: 4 loser? Where does that come from??
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 where are your partner's entries then?
ATxx and Ax are much stronger than KTxx and Kx.
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: You have 2 losers in hearts, one in diamond and one in club. Your pair of K's
: got promoted
: after the opener. There is a fair chance that both rounded Aces are well
: placed. If so, ur
: hand is equivalent to
: AKQxxx
: A10xx
: x
: Ax
: Certainly much more than a lot of regular 15 counter.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 9 Man, your hand evaluation is so... uhh... agressive. Just because RHO opened
doesn't mean your 2 kings are both well placed, and even further out, doesn't
mean that you have have chance to lead to it twice -- or even once to take it.
Just because you have a 6 card suit headed by AKQ does not mean the suit is
solid without losers. And just because you have a 4 card suit doesn't mean the
distribution will be right and that you will have the right timing to
establish the 4th. Kings are not equivale
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: You have 2 losers in hearts, one in diamond and one in club. Your pair of K's
: got promoted
: after the opener. There is a fair chance that both rounded Aces are well
: placed. If so, ur
: hand is equivalent to
: AKQxxx
: A10xx
: x
: Ax
: Certainly much more than a lot of regular 15 counter.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 well, I've bid many worse games than this 4S, or even many worse slams. hehe.
4C can also be cold sometimes, why do we have to double it?
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Man, your hand evaluation is so... uhh... agressive. Just because RHO opened
: doesn't mean your 2 kings are both well placed, and even further out, doesn't
: mean that you have have chance to lead to it twice -- or even once to take it.
: Just because you have a 6 card suit headed by AKQ does not mean the suit is
: solid without losers. And just because you have a 4 card suit doesn't mean the
: distribution will be right and that you will have the right timing to
: establish the 4th. Kings are not equivale
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 11 Because of MP. If it has the merit of making, then you probably won't get many
MPs anyway... so the stake is low but profit is high: 200 can easily be a top
if your max is 3S or the field won't bid it, assuming your pd did the right
thing by not bidding the game.
But to me, it sounded like East has already fully told his story and from
West's point of view, doubling is far from clear... somehow I regretted
immediately after passing the 4C.
In reality, somehow the field was playing 4S (and some g
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: well, I've bid many worse games than this 4S, or even many worse slams. hehe.
: 4C can also be cold sometimes, why do we have to double it?
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 12 you probably can double it. however, the field can sometimes play 4S x -1,
so 4C without double can still be reasonable. Anyway, I believe you can double
it if you like. it's rather marginal. However, 4C is also a big
call for opps when vul at MP, since they know opps may double it.
So it's often upto judgement and opps' bidding strength.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Because of MP. If it has the merit of making, then you probably won't get many
: MPs anyway... so the stake is low but profit is high: 200 can easily be a top
: if your max is 3S or the field won't bid it, assuming your pd did the right
: thing by not bidding the game.
: But to me, it sounded like East has already fully told his story and from
: West's point of view, doubling is far from clear... somehow I regretted
: immediately after passing the 4C.
: In reality, somehow the field was playing 4S (and some g
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 13 Hehe, ofc I don't mean it's 100%. There is no guarantee that the Aces will be
well placed, but it does significantly increase the likelihood after the
opening. On average you expect partner to have doubleton spade so you can
estimate no loser in spades, and since you've got HT as well, it's too
pessimistic to play 3 losers in hearts.
If you want to double 4C, certainly that cannot be from West's side. Just
because you feel your 140 being robbed and hold 2 Q's so you double?
doesn't
it.
the
it'
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Man, your hand evaluation is so... uhh... agressive. Just because RHO opened
: doesn't mean your 2 kings are both well placed, and even further out, doesn't
: mean that you have have chance to lead to it twice -- or even once to take it.
: Just because you have a 6 card suit headed by AKQ does not mean the suit is
: solid without losers. And just because you have a 4 card suit doesn't mean the
: distribution will be right and that you will have the right timing to
: establish the 4th. Kings are not equivale
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