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a*******s
发帖数: 295
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Deal: E, NS
c****u
发帖数: 3277
2
this is just nonsense. what would partner bid if he holds something like:
Sx HQxxxx Dxxxxx CKx, I would at least raise 2H to 3H with this hand.
4H is possible when partner holds something like:
SAxxxx HAxxxx Dx CAx
South should double 2H to disclose the psych.
Also, it really makes no diffence what Alan Truscott said about R and S
's bridge. There were just many persons witnessed that R and S cheated.
Also, R and S are not strong enough comparing with Italian guys at that time.
For U.S. players,

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: Deal: E, NS
a***n
发帖数: 287
3

但是你不觉得Truscott刨来刨去刨出来的这些例子里面有相当比例
不用作弊也能叫出来么? 按牌理考虑,加上aggressiveness就应该
能实现的, 象这副牌就是如此.

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is just nonsense. what would partner bid if he holds something like:
: Sx HQxxxx Dxxxxx CKx, I would at least raise 2H to 3H with this hand.
: 4H is possible when partner holds something like:
: SAxxxx HAxxxx Dx CAx
: South should double 2H to disclose the psych.
: Also, it really makes no diffence what Alan Truscott said about R and S
: 's bridge. There were just many persons witnessed that R and S cheated.
: Also, R and S are not strong enough comparing with Italian guys at that time.
: For U.S. players,

a*******s
发帖数: 295
4
you always use some artificial hands to support your point.
One can always use this to demonstrate that any system won't work at
all, no matter how sophisticate it is.
所谓 "有形之徒, 莫不可名, 有名之徒, 莫不可胜".
The only impression I can get from your comments is that
your are weak in theory. coz you cannot deliver your idea by articulate a
deduction.
Anyone out there believe that there is such thing as "safe" psych?
he took the reasonable risk as I explained, and he got his reward.
His action would have faile

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is just nonsense. what would partner bid if he holds something like:
: Sx HQxxxx Dxxxxx CKx, I would at least raise 2H to 3H with this hand.
: 4H is possible when partner holds something like:
: SAxxxx HAxxxx Dx CAx
: South should double 2H to disclose the psych.
: Also, it really makes no diffence what Alan Truscott said about R and S
: 's bridge. There were just many persons witnessed that R and S cheated.
: Also, R and S are not strong enough comparing with Italian guys at that time.
: For U.S. players,

w****b
发帖数: 623
5
Guys, I still don't know why we are disputing on these issues. Or these
non-issues. Just leave the history to historians, as we will never see 1st
hand materials and we'll have to allow ourselves to be influenced by writers,
who, may well have biased opinions.
For the given hands, I find Truscott's accusation soundless. But then, for
cheating cases, typically each individual hand does not supply enough
evidence, as everybody has deviated from the routine once in a while. But
collectively, deviat

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: you always use some artificial hands to support your point.
: One can always use this to demonstrate that any system won't work at
: all, no matter how sophisticate it is.
: 所谓 "有形之徒, 莫不可名, 有名之徒, 莫不可胜".
: The only impression I can get from your comments is that
: your are weak in theory. coz you cannot deliver your idea by articulate a
: deduction.
: Anyone out there believe that there is such thing as "safe" psych?
: he took the reasonable risk as I explained, and he got his reward.
: His action would have faile

a*******s
发帖数: 295
6
不平则鸣. 呵呵呵呵:-)

writers,
suggestion.
think
like:

【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Guys, I still don't know why we are disputing on these issues. Or these
: non-issues. Just leave the history to historians, as we will never see 1st
: hand materials and we'll have to allow ourselves to be influenced by writers,
: who, may well have biased opinions.
: For the given hands, I find Truscott's accusation soundless. But then, for
: cheating cases, typically each individual hand does not supply enough
: evidence, as everybody has deviated from the routine once in a while. But
: collectively, deviat

w****b
发帖数: 623
7
Then learned to eat the unfairness ba, whether to yourself or to someone else.
That will make you stronger. :-)

may
a

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不平则鸣. 呵呵呵呵:-)
:
: writers,
: suggestion.
: think
: like:

c****u
发帖数: 3277
8

you can say whatever you like. The basic idea of psychic bids is that
it would backfire in some situations. Ok, that's all I want to say about
S's psyche.
When a player knows about his partner's length in H, he can make safe
psychic bids in H. Also, in the law suite, both R and S had to admit that they
used finger signals, but their lawyer "proved" that they didn't take any
advantage from the finger signal, what a big joke!
Anyway, it's really pointless to argue about this issue. You can believ

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不平则鸣. 呵呵呵呵:-)
:
: writers,
: suggestion.
: think
: like:

c****u
发帖数: 3277
9
yes, the whole thing is a big nonsense. However, the writers can't manipulate
facts. Truscott's analysis is also nonsense, but we don't really need his
"analysis" at all. The accusation has never been based on his analysis.
You can't accuse a weird action. What really happened in world championship was
that R and S used the finger signals which was observed by many persons.
That's it.

【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Then learned to eat the unfairness ba, whether to yourself or to someone else.
: That will make you stronger. :-)
:
: may
: a

w****b
发帖数: 623
10
If you guys are interested in cheats, here's one case on okb which involved a
chinese player:
http://www.gg.caltech.edu/~jeff/kireport

manipulate
was
writers,
suggestion.
may
think
a

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: yes, the whole thing is a big nonsense. However, the writers can't manipulate
: facts. Truscott's analysis is also nonsense, but we don't really need his
: "analysis" at all. The accusation has never been based on his analysis.
: You can't accuse a weird action. What really happened in world championship was
: that R and S used the finger signals which was observed by many persons.
: That's it.

a***n
发帖数: 287
11

这个是不是太过了点? 不要文人相轻么. :)

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不平则鸣. 呵呵呵呵:-)
:
: writers,
: suggestion.
: think
: like:

a***n
发帖数: 287
12

尤其是觉得自己心目中的英雄受了委屈的时候.
不过确实是老账了. 1965年吧? 今年也不是
大纪念日. Reese是96年去世的吧. 今年也不是
大纪念日. 难道说今年是Truscott的大纪念日么?

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不平则鸣. 呵呵呵呵:-)
:
: writers,
: suggestion.
: think
: like:

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