j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 1 Vul. vs. Not
With KQ8
AQXXX
X
KQJX
You opened a 2nd-seat 1H, LHO bid 3D, pd doubled, RHO passed, what's your bid? | w****b 发帖数: 623 | 2 I'd try 4C, natural and 90% forcing, since a voluntary bid over 3N tends to be
serious and promises more than minimum. Whatever pd bid (unless he raises me
in C) I'll try another 4S bid. If he considers this as natural and non
forcing, fine. Moysian 4S can easily be a winner.
bid?
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Vul. vs. Not : With KQ8 : AQXXX : X : KQJX : You opened a 2nd-seat 1H, LHO bid 3D, pd doubled, RHO passed, what's your bid?
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 3
bid?
What is the meaning of this double?
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Vul. vs. Not : With KQ8 : AQXXX : X : KQJX : You opened a 2nd-seat 1H, LHO bid 3D, pd doubled, RHO passed, what's your bid?
| j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 4 I picked up this hand at the last round of a pair game with a first-time pd.
From the way he bid in previous rounds, it was quite obvious the double was
negative.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : bid? : What is the meaning of this double?
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 5 With long term partners, you can bid 4C,
otherwise, try 4S.
You sometimes may get passed if you bid 4C with unfamiliar partners.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I picked up this hand at the last round of a pair game with a first-time pd. : From the way he bid in previous rounds, it was quite obvious the double was : negative.
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 6 pd's neg dbl shows he wont have much wast on d. He is dbling at three level, I
have a good hand. Now we must have a game, even slam is not without chance. I
will bid 4d. If pd bid 4s, i will bid 5c, if pd bid 5c, i will raise to 6c. If
pd bid 4h, i will try 4s.
However, with pickup pd, 5c or 6c might be better choice.
bid?
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Vul. vs. Not : With KQ8 : AQXXX : X : KQJX : You opened a 2nd-seat 1H, LHO bid 3D, pd doubled, RHO passed, what's your bid?
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 7 is 4c gf here? I mean even with long time pd. I may consider 5c, or 4d. pd may
have a three-card h spt【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】
pd.
was
your | f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 8 if pd has min for dbl, he can pass 4c. so i think you may have to bid stronger
than 4c.【 在 wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到: 】
be | w****b 发帖数: 623 | 9 It is not gf, but it does show tremendous interests by voluntarily bid over
3NT. This is because for most ppl, neg x only guarantees the other major and
not necessarily the other minor. So with minimum, and no S, no D support, you
rebid your H and see if pd has tolerance. You never need to worry about the
case when pd has 3 card H support, since he'll take preference from 4C to H
for sure. 4C can occasionally produce an accident if pd has 4-2-3-4 shape, and
a marginal neg x. But then your game i
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : is 4c gf here? I mean even with long time pd. I may consider 5c, or 4d. pd may : have a three-card h spt【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】 : pd. : was : your
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 10 well, theoretically, I think it's better to play x at 3 level
as GF. Thus you may save a lot of trouble and is able to describe
your hand freely, although you may get too high sometimes. The
trade off is worthy I believe. Also, I don't mind being pushed
one level higher by opponents. I am rated to make some of the unmakable
games if they preempt me, sometimes by the extra information I got from
their biddings and sometimes just by the psychological weapon.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It is not gf, but it does show tremendous interests by voluntarily bid over : 3NT. This is because for most ppl, neg x only guarantees the other major and : not necessarily the other minor. So with minimum, and no S, no D support, you : rebid your H and see if pd has tolerance. You never need to worry about the : case when pd has 3 card H support, since he'll take preference from 4C to H : for sure. 4C can occasionally produce an accident if pd has 4-2-3-4 shape, and : a marginal neg x. But then your game i
| w****b 发帖数: 623 | 11 Yeah 1H-3D-x is almost game forcing, whereas 1S-3C-x can be more relaxed as
you have far more places to go.
over
and
you
the
H
and
pd
first-time
double
what's
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : well, theoretically, I think it's better to play x at 3 level : as GF. Thus you may save a lot of trouble and is able to describe : your hand freely, although you may get too high sometimes. The : trade off is worthy I believe. Also, I don't mind being pushed : one level higher by opponents. I am rated to make some of the unmakable : games if they preempt me, sometimes by the extra information I got from : their biddings and sometimes just by the psychological weapon.
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 12 yes, that's quite different.
double over 3D/H/S should be thrumpt, which asks for the stopper first.
double over 3C is still a traditional takeout.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Yeah 1H-3D-x is almost game forcing, whereas 1S-3C-x can be more relaxed as : you have far more places to go. : : over : and : you : the : H : and : pd
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