x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 1 You lost 10 IMPs for team match. 5 hands left
Now you have
Skx
H87xx
DAJT9x
Cxx
you heard 1s from your P, and 2d from your RHO,
Y think, well. let me pass first and if P balanced with X, you will be happy
to let it go....
you heard 2H from your Pd, not how to proceed. | f*o 发帖数: 168 | 2 normal bid would be 3h
pd did not promise anything more than minimum
In this case you may gamble on 4H, hope pard either has a big card in club
or singleton club, so hopefully u lose 1c, 1d and 1 h
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : You lost 10 IMPs for team match. 5 hands left : Now you have : Skx : H87xx : DAJT9x : Cxx : you heard 1s from your P, and 2d from your RHO, : Y think, well. let me pass first and if P balanced with X, you will be happy : to let it go.... : you heard 2H from your Pd, not how to proceed.
| c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 3 3H
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : You lost 10 IMPs for team match. 5 hands left : Now you have : Skx : H87xx : DAJT9x : Cxx : you heard 1s from your P, and 2d from your RHO, : Y think, well. let me pass first and if P balanced with X, you will be happy : to let it go.... : you heard 2H from your Pd, not how to proceed.
| a****s 发帖数: 524 | 4 I am not object to gambling,
but if you bid 4H, it's not gambling, it's suiciding
with nothing in hearts and most strength in enemy's suit.
Bidding is just as simple as counting your toe. :)
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : You lost 10 IMPs for team match. 5 hands left : Now you have : Skx : H87xx : DAJT9x : Cxx : you heard 1s from your P, and 2d from your RHO, : Y think, well. let me pass first and if P balanced with X, you will be happy : to let it go.... : you heard 2H from your Pd, not how to proceed.
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 5 well you toe tell you that your p got :)
AQxxx
QJTx
x
Axx
BTW you think DA is no use?
SK is in enemy suit?
Sorry, I didn't get it.
Bidding with toes seems is not related to any logic part of bridge game :)
happy
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】 : I am not object to gambling, : but if you bid 4H, it's not gambling, it's suiciding : with nothing in hearts and most strength in enemy's suit. : Bidding is just as simple as counting your toe. :)
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 6 agree, 3h is a decent bid.
what I am thinking is 3d or even 3c, show a little better hand than 3h
if you pd got SA, and single D, which is very possible, there is a chance that
even with 13 points, the 4h is very decent
Like
AQxxx
KQJx
x
xxx
or
AQxxx
QJxx
x
Axx
etc
happy
【在 f*o 的大作中提到】 : normal bid would be 3h : pd did not promise anything more than minimum : In this case you may gamble on 4H, hope pard either has a big card in club : or singleton club, so hopefully u lose 1c, 1d and 1 h
| a****s 发帖数: 524 | 7 First of all, in case you don't know,
the very basic rule of bidding is NOT to assume your pd got a
perfect hand. maybe your rule is always assume your pd got a perfect
hand.
Second, even he really got a perfect hand, you bid 3H, he will raise
That's the reason why 4H is brainless bid, got it?
Third, in your given example, I couldn't see why he didn't make a
balance double, it's pathetic.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : well you toe tell you that your p got :) : AQxxx : QJTx : x : Axx : BTW you think DA is no use? : SK is in enemy suit? : Sorry, I didn't get it. : Bidding with toes seems is not related to any logic part of bridge game :) :
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 8
I really don't know, any hands which are pretty usual, in your words, they
must be a
prefect hand.
You mean, after the balance, the point is simply raise to 4H with out any
extra.
So you think hands like
Axxxx
QJxx
xx
AK
should double. and it is pathetic. and/or it is a perfect hand, and of course
you MUST bid 4H with this hand after 3H?
Well. the only thing I can say is I FU LE u.
Next time, please at least THINK before you say.
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】 : First of all, in case you don't know, : the very basic rule of bidding is NOT to assume your pd got a : perfect hand. maybe your rule is always assume your pd got a perfect : hand. : Second, even he really got a perfect hand, you bid 3H, he will raise : That's the reason why 4H is brainless bid, got it? : Third, in your given example, I couldn't see why he didn't make a : balance double, it's pathetic.
| f*****x 发帖数: 545 | 9 3H is enough.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三少爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 | x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 10 got it. after thinking, I can understand now.
in most cases, after 3h, P will bid 4H :)
so I don't need to bid directly for him.
Anyway, he must know his hand much more than me.
And for no extra control in H or others, it is no reason to MO.
】
happy
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】 : 3H is enough.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三少爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】
| | | c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 11 I bid 4H. 3H would be misleading and too chicken.
This 2H denies a dead minimum,
4H can have a very good play facing such a minimum:
Axxxxx AKxx Dx Cxx and I don't think your partner should bid 4H over
your 3H here. 3H basically shows something that's weaker than a negative
double: Sxx HQJxx DJxxx CKxx would be enough.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : got it. after thinking, I can understand now. : in most cases, after 3h, P will bid 4H :) : so I don't need to bid directly for him. : Anyway, he must know his hand much more than me. : And for no extra control in H or others, it is no reason to MO. : : 】 : happy
| x***e 发帖数: 2449 | 12 hehe, finally I got a supporter. :)
After all guys think 3H is good enough, I already think I should bid lower.
Actually, I bid 4H is not for the hand, usually I might bid 3H.
I bid 4H simply for gambling since we are 10 IMPs behind and I think this is a
good chance for fight back.
happy
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : I bid 4H. 3H would be misleading and too chicken. : This 2H denies a dead minimum, : 4H can have a very good play facing such a minimum: : Axxxxx AKxx Dx Cxx and I don't think your partner should bid 4H over : your 3H here. 3H basically shows something that's weaker than a negative : double: Sxx HQJxx DJxxx CKxx would be enough.
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 13 it's not a gamble, you gotta bid good games, or bad games and make them,
especially when you are red. You have some play even facing such a minimum:
SAxxxx HAxxxx Dx Cxx, in which case you need H 2-2, which justifies
the winning odds for a vul game.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】 : hehe, finally I got a supporter. :) : After all guys think 3H is good enough, I already think I should bid lower. : Actually, I bid 4H is not for the hand, usually I might bid 3H. : I bid 4H simply for gambling since we are 10 IMPs behind and I think this is a : good chance for fight back. : : happy
| a****s 发帖数: 524 | 14 Good, I just feel impetuous to yet make more contribution to this crap:
how about pd hold a minimum Axxxxx AJTxxxx - -,
you just missed a cold grand slam given everything split normally,
which is, of course, always taken for granted...
one open, one bid game with 13 cards, right?
lower.
is a
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】 : it's not a gamble, you gotta bid good games, or bad games and make them, : especially when you are red. You have some play even facing such a minimum: : SAxxxx HAxxxx Dx Cxx, in which case you need H 2-2, which justifies : the winning odds for a vul game.
| c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 15 It's impossible, your partner should open 1H in this case. And even if you
opened 1S, the right rebid is 3H or 4H, not 2H.
Just calm down. It's a popular misunderstanding of 2H reopening for many
playerss which I'll describe in details in my next post.
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】 : Good, I just feel impetuous to yet make more contribution to this crap: : how about pd hold a minimum Axxxxx AJTxxxx - -, : you just missed a cold grand slam given everything split normally, : which is, of course, always taken for granted... : one open, one bid game with 13 cards, right? : : lower. : is a
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