x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 1 W lead c5, dummy 2, E J, S Q win
draw 2 trumps.
then SCx W A, dummy K, E 9
W return D 8, summy 4, E 10, S Q win, back a C, dummy ruff,
dummy D2, E3, SK, WA, after thought a moment, W back c, contract make.
E said, P, I give a C9 to welcome H.
W said, P, during the play, I know you have HA, without Hj, you could also
welcome H, and return H is dangerous and could give S a chance.
So W think,the C9 is an even sigh and show E has 2 C left after 1 round C.
so he think S had the last C intead of D i | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 2 west for sure, there is no way to defend like that if he can count,
south has shown 5 spades, 3 diamonds, 3 clubs, if south has 4 clubs,
he would have 5-1-3-4 shape and open 1NT, and in that case, 4S is just ice
cold. Also, C9 is a perfect card to show 98 sequence, if he has only 9x
left, there is no way for him to play C9, because declarer can have
Q87x and set up a potential club winner to pitch a potential diamond
loser. So C9 is really a good card here, to show strong interest to switch
H.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: W lead c5, dummy 2, E J, S Q win
: draw 2 trumps.
: then SCx W A, dummy K, E 9
: W return D 8, summy 4, E 10, S Q win, back a C, dummy ruff,
: dummy D2, E3, SK, WA, after thought a moment, W back c, contract make.
: E said, P, I give a C9 to welcome H.
: W said, P, during the play, I know you have HA, without Hj, you could also
: welcome H, and return H is dangerous and could give S a chance.
: So W think,the C9 is an even sigh and show E has 2 C left after 1 round C.
: so he think S had the last C intead of D i
| j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 3 Are you saying that E can be sure S has 5-2-3-3 whereas W could not know
whether S has 5-2-3-3 or 4-2-3-4 (SJ could be in E's hand)?
But in the former case, W should hope E has H AJ;
and in the latter case, it doesn't matter whether W play a H or a C, because
the contact is always down so long as E has HA.
Therefore, W should play H anyway.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: west for sure, there is no way to defend like that if he can count,
: south has shown 5 spades, 3 diamonds, 3 clubs, if south has 4 clubs,
: he would have 5-1-3-4 shape and open 1NT, and in that case, 4S is just ice
: cold. Also, C9 is a perfect card to show 98 sequence, if he has only 9x
: left, there is no way for him to play C9, because declarer can have
: Q87x and set up a potential club winner to pitch a potential diamond
: loser. So C9 is really a good card here, to show strong interest to switch
: H.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 4 west 100%.
Pd would not signal so strong with c9 if he has only HA.
Second, he should return H after tried D without success.
Of course, if pd is a good player, he should play dx when west tried a small
d. DT is misleading, so the best way to persuade pd to lead H is to play small
d rather than DT.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: W lead c5, dummy 2, E J, S Q win
: draw 2 trumps.
: then SCx W A, dummy K, E 9
: W return D 8, summy 4, E 10, S Q win, back a C, dummy ruff,
: dummy D2, E3, SK, WA, after thought a moment, W back c, contract make.
: E said, P, I give a C9 to welcome H.
: W said, P, during the play, I know you have HA, without Hj, you could also
: welcome H, and return H is dangerous and could give S a chance.
: So W think,the C9 is an even sigh and show E has 2 C left after 1 round C.
: so he think S had the last C intead of D i
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 5 till now, south shows 5- s, 2d, 3c, he could have
HJx
W claim, he is not sure whether South is 5233 or 5224....
Return H is not safe, if S has HJ
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: west for sure, there is no way to defend like that if he can count,
: south has shown 5 spades, 3 diamonds, 3 clubs, if south has 4 clubs,
: he would have 5-1-3-4 shape and open 1NT, and in that case, 4S is just ice
: cold. Also, C9 is a perfect card to show 98 sequence, if he has only 9x
: left, there is no way for him to play C9, because declarer can have
: Q87x and set up a potential club winner to pitch a potential diamond
: loser. So C9 is really a good card here, to show strong interest to switch
: H.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6 that was a typo, I was talking about west. East can't have SJ, because
he should play SJ if he has QJx.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: Are you saying that E can be sure S has 5-2-3-3 whereas W could not know
: whether S has 5-2-3-3 or 4-2-3-4 (SJ could be in E's hand)?
: But in the former case, W should hope E has H AJ;
: and in the latter case, it doesn't matter whether W play a H or a C, because
: the contact is always down so long as E has HA.
: Therefore, W should play H anyway.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 7 This isn't right, one should have played J from QJx in this situation,
Because whatever you do you should have a point, playing Q fools
nobody but your partner, why do you want to do that?
The principle is trying to tell your partner what declarer already knows.
also
C.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: Are you saying that E can be sure S has 5-2-3-3 whereas W could not know
: whether S has 5-2-3-3 or 4-2-3-4 (SJ could be in E's hand)?
: But in the former case, W should hope E has H AJ;
: and in the latter case, it doesn't matter whether W play a H or a C, because
: the contact is always down so long as E has HA.
: Therefore, W should play H anyway.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 8 I guess I know who's who, but that has nothing to do with my judgement.
As far as I can see, both players didn't do well.
I agree that west had a problem and he probably needs to exit safely,
however he should have returned a diamond instead of a club. Since it's way
beyond our ability to figure out why South wanna open 1NT with
AKJTX Jx KQ Q8xx, instead of opening 1S, returning a club at that point
is an unexcusable error.
East's signal add nothing but ado to the situation. After two round of
t
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: W lead c5, dummy 2, E J, S Q win
: draw 2 trumps.
: then SCx W A, dummy K, E 9
: W return D 8, summy 4, E 10, S Q win, back a C, dummy ruff,
: dummy D2, E3, SK, WA, after thought a moment, W back c, contract make.
: E said, P, I give a C9 to welcome H.
: W said, P, during the play, I know you have HA, without Hj, you could also
: welcome H, and return H is dangerous and could give S a chance.
: So W think,the C9 is an even sigh and show E has 2 C left after 1 round C.
: so he think S had the last C intead of D i
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 9 C9 is a perfect card to play because east has to have C8 in this case,
otherwise, it's just a suicide to play C9 from J9x, because declarer
can have CQ98x and thus set up a C winner to pitch a diamond loser.
So it's really a strong defence. West just can't count and understand
his partner's perfect defence.
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: I guess I know who's who, but that has nothing to do with my judgement.
: As far as I can see, both players didn't do well.
: I agree that west had a problem and he probably needs to exit safely,
: however he should have returned a diamond instead of a club. Since it's way
: beyond our ability to figure out why South wanna open 1NT with
: AKJTX Jx KQ Q8xx, instead of opening 1S, returning a club at that point
: is an unexcusable error.
: East's signal add nothing but ado to the situation. After two round of
: t
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 10 I also want to say it's probably from 98 sequence, but the
original article didn't mention whether club 8 is missing or not
at that point...
And this really has little to do with the point here, East didn't count the
hand, since there's no need to shift to heart at all and club 9 is an
indication that he just didn't get it.
Also the general guideline is: with a weaker hand, it is more important to
give the correct count.
West did count the hand, but went astray because he took club 9 as a count.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: C9 is a perfect card to play because east has to have C8 in this case,
: otherwise, it's just a suicide to play C9 from J9x, because declarer
: can have CQ98x and thus set up a C winner to pitch a diamond loser.
: So it's really a strong defence. West just can't count and understand
: his partner's perfect defence.
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