x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 1 P open 1H
you got
AQ
-
KQ9853
Q9753
You bid 2D
your LHO jump to 3S
P 4c.
Will you bid
1)4s
2)5c
3)6c
4)7c
5)pass..... | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 2 4s, no rush.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三老爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 | c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 3 4S
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: P open 1H
: you got
: AQ
: -
: KQ9853
: Q9753
: You bid 2D
: your LHO jump to 3S
: P 4c.
: Will you bid
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 4 agree, I bid 4S, P bid 5C
and all pass.
His hand is
94
AJT872
J
AKJ6
He claim,
P I bid 4C, already shows extra, for your 4s, I have no interests.
So if you wanna bid slam, bid directly.
Now, how to evalue the hand?
Who should responsible
P' 5c
or my pass 5c.
】
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: 4s, no rush.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三老爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 5 IMHO
after a premptive, life is always more difficult...
5c is kind of underbid but ok, pass with your hand is absolutely
ok because you can not risk a slam without control on trump.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: agree, I bid 4S, P bid 5C
: and all pass.
: His hand is
: 94
: AJT872
: J
: AKJ6
: He claim,
: P I bid 4C, already shows extra, for your 4s, I have no interests.
: So if you wanna bid slam, bid directly.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 6 I think probably urs. You shld drive to 6 at least. 4C shows extra or shape.
when you bid 4s, u aims to 7. Since pd declined interest, u shlld jsut bid
6c.【 在 xlxie (《※★★★※§三老爷§※★★★※》) 的大作中提到: 】 | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 7 no that is 4C, an overbid clearly. 【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】
到: | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 I didn't see the opening of 1H. 4C is fine then.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: no that is 4C, an overbid clearly. 【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】
: 到:
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 9 You want to bid 6C anyway, don't you? why pass your partner's sign off in
5C, hehe.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: agree, I bid 4S, P bid 5C
: and all pass.
: His hand is
: 94
: AJT872
: J
: AKJ6
: He claim,
: P I bid 4C, already shows extra, for your 4s, I have no interests.
: So if you wanna bid slam, bid directly.
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 10 I am searching for 6C, but, consider C is too weak and afraid P has too many
stuffs in H, and we could simply left 2 As outside.
I think 4S shows strong interests in C slam.
Besides, Given we play 2/1. 4C needs not to be very strong.
finally, I choose pass.
For this hand, what I prepare is if P 4nt, I have a perfect 6C.
If p 6c, I will 7c.
if P 5c, I pass.
I admit, C slam is the most difficult here.
BTW, forgot to mention
This is a rubber game and both vul.
So safety is also a issue I need to co
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: You want to bid 6C anyway, don't you? why pass your partner's sign off in
: 5C, hehe.
| | | f*o
发帖数: 168 | 11 4s
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: P open 1H
: you got
: AQ
: -
: KQ9853
: Q9753
: You bid 2D
: your LHO jump to 3S
: P 4c.
: Will you bid
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 12 You should have pushed to 6C, even partner showing no further interest
after your 4S cuebid.
I cannot imagine that in a auction like this both minor aces are missing.
With both aces missing, partner gets to have some wild distribution to
justfy his 4C bid. Hence, he may well have void diamonds
or void spades which allow him to park the diamond loser on the spade
opening lead.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: P open 1H
: you got
: AQ
: -
: KQ9853
: Q9753
: You bid 2D
: your LHO jump to 3S
: P 4c.
: Will you bid
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 13
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
good point, so 6c is safe here. :)
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: You should have pushed to 6C, even partner showing no further interest
: after your 4S cuebid.
: I cannot imagine that in a auction like this both minor aces are missing.
: With both aces missing, partner gets to have some wild distribution to
: justfy his 4C bid. Hence, he may well have void diamonds
: or void spades which allow him to park the diamond loser on the spade
: opening lead.
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 14 your dedication to slam astonishes me! :)
with a hand lack of trump AK, another partner unbid suit A, void
in partner's opening suit... I am not that optimistic :)
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: You should have pushed to 6C, even partner showing no further interest
: after your 4S cuebid.
: I cannot imagine that in a auction like this both minor aces are missing.
: With both aces missing, partner gets to have some wild distribution to
: justfy his 4C bid. Hence, he may well have void diamonds
: or void spades which allow him to park the diamond loser on the spade
: opening lead.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 15 facing Sxx HAKQJx Dx CKJTxx, you really can't make 6C, even 5C is
after a spade lead. So I don't really think 6C is a clearcut,
but still, 6C does make facing many possible distributions
and those who bid 6C are not to blame.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
:
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: good point, so 6c is safe here. :)
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 16
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
totally agree.
imho.
50% of myself prefer 6c while 50% prefer 5c.
When I am feel not sure about my decision, I usually post here.
See what you guys think.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: facing Sxx HAKQJx Dx CKJTxx, you really can't make 6C, even 5C is
: after a spade lead. So I don't really think 6C is a clearcut,
: but still, 6C does make facing many possible distributions
: and those who bid 6C are not to blame.
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 17 I think 5C is a sign off, after 3S premptive, the 4c's range
may be wider. 4c just says, pd, I have two suits, enemy have
3S premptive hence we are always one suit mate... choose a game
since you 2/1.
the attitude after 4S cue bid is even more obvious... 5C shows
no interests at all (I think 4nt maybe my choice to show good
value) in my opinion, with xlxie's hand, pass 5C is the choice
because pd has no interests and lack of control
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: facing Sxx HAKQJx Dx CKJTxx, you really can't make 6C, even 5C is
: after a spade lead. So I don't really think 6C is a clearcut,
: but still, 6C does make facing many possible distributions
: and those who bid 6C are not to blame.
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 18 totally agree.
After 2/1, 4c need not to have much extra value, maybe just show the shape.
Since we will need to get a game anyway.
There is a margin though.
P could have
SJ
H QJxxxx
Dx
CAKxxx
Some garbage like that. although he has no interests, still have the chance
for 6c. Even in this case, with CAK and 5 C, I personally still will have some
interests though. after 4s, CAK with longer trump is a good sign, I think.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: I think 5C is a sign off, after 3S premptive, the 4c's range
: may be wider. 4c just says, pd, I have two suits, enemy have
: 3S premptive hence we are always one suit mate... choose a game
: since you 2/1.
: the attitude after 4S cue bid is even more obvious... 5C shows
: no interests at all (I think 4nt maybe my choice to show good
: value) in my opinion, with xlxie's hand, pass 5C is the choice
: because pd has no interests and lack of control
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 19 If you are right, So, with
S 94
H AJT872
D J
C AKJ6
You partner bid 4C over 3S obviously is a underbid, and he should
push again. is that the conclusion?
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: I think 5C is a sign off, after 3S premptive, the 4c's range
: may be wider. 4c just says, pd, I have two suits, enemy have
: 3S premptive hence we are always one suit mate... choose a game
: since you 2/1.
: the attitude after 4S cue bid is even more obvious... 5C shows
: no interests at all (I think 4nt maybe my choice to show good
: value) in my opinion, with xlxie's hand, pass 5C is the choice
: because pd has no interests and lack of control
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 20 4c is not underbid, after 4S cue, with this type of hand,
5C is underbid
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: If you are right, So, with
: S 94
: H AJT872
: D J
: C AKJ6
: You partner bid 4C over 3S obviously is a underbid, and he should
: push again. is that the conclusion?
| | | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 21 You sounds like very familier.
Are you Xing Xing?
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: 4c is not underbid, after 4S cue, with this type of hand,
: 5C is underbid
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 22 nop :) I am offerscome/flyleaf @ smth :)
I know yiyi... but don't know xingxing :)
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: You sounds like very familier.
: Are you Xing Xing?
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 23 Ok, then you are saying with this hand,
After 1H pass 2D 3S,
one should bid 4C voluntairly, and commit to 6C after partner's 4S.
I wonder how you are going to justfy this is the proper measure.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: 4c is not underbid, after 4S cue, with this type of hand,
: 5C is underbid
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 24 in my partnership, if my pd bid 4S showing strong slam interests
with a hand with a side A and trump AK, definitely go :)
that is in the high end of my 4C bid
with low end hand (lack of controls, not very good shape, etc), 5c
to sign off
not certain slam, bid 4nt to wait for pd's decision
I am not expert player, don't have very clear boundary for high
level competitive bidding :) you can show your partnership agreement:)
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: Ok, then you are saying with this hand,
: After 1H pass 2D 3S,
: one should bid 4C voluntairly, and commit to 6C after partner's 4S.
: I wonder how you are going to justfy this is the proper measure.
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 25 let us see.
2d commits to a game...
so 4c with C AK and 2614, a good shape.
should bid 4C for sure, right?
If you say NO to this one, please stop and pass the rest one and save you some
time...
4s is a very good sign.
since you are 2614, not 1624, what you are afraid is S, even P bid 2D first.
Your hand looks like shows more value than P's expected min, right?
If you say NO to the above thing, looks like you didn't even THINK at all.
You just sense/guess.
To be honest, I can't believe after THIN
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: Ok, then you are saying with this hand,
: After 1H pass 2D 3S,
: one should bid 4C voluntairly, and commit to 6C after partner's 4S.
: I wonder how you are going to justfy this is the proper measure.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 26 This is my final post about this hand. Hope I am able to straight it out.
North
S 94
H AJT872
D J
C AKJ6
VS
South
S AQ
H -
D KQ9853
C Q9753
The bidding went:
1H pass 2D 3S, ?
My question is very simple, if here
you have bid 4C voluntarily with North's hand,
where the hell is your EXTRAS to accept a slam invitation??
4C is just a sheerly bold overbid that happens to hit not only a Q-fifth
support but also a 6-5 wild distribution in this particular hand. And it is
the very fact you guys seeing | c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 27 god... are you playing 2/1?
you pass 3S? wait for what? a penalty double? or left a
3nt chance to your partner?
you hold a 2614 shape with 3 top controls and very short
on enemy's premptive suit... your partner says he/she hold
a hand which is good enough to a game... and...
you say you are passing...
Qx xx
KQxxx and AJTxxx
QJ J
KJxx AKJ6
are completely different 14HCP in my mind. and they are the
same in your eyes...
you surely straight it out... :) I see it :)
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: This is my final post about this hand. Hope I am able to straight it out.
: North
: S 94
: H AJT872
: D J
: C AKJ6
: VS
: South
: S AQ
: H -
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