f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 1 Vul: Both
Dealer: West
Sitting south, you hold:
S: X
H: AKT9XXXX
D: AQ
C: XX
After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now? | o***n
发帖数: 921 | 2 2H
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 3 I bid 4H and hope to make it. 4H may not be able to kill
4S, but it does kill many opps' 5m. You may miss slams
sometimes, but it's very unlikely after partner's pass and
RHO's opening. 2H can also be an option for solid players.
sometimes, 2H may get passed out, but it's rare.
Also, 2H then later 4H may describe your defensive potential
better, but even like that, if you partner can bid 5H
over 4S, it's often right even if you overcall 4H over 1S.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| v*******e
发帖数: 3714 | 4 I simply think 4h is more acurate than 2h, in the general
sense that you really don't have a weak hand at all. and with
this hand, you don'tneed much from your pd to make 4h.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I bid 4H and hope to make it. 4H may not be able to kill
: 4S, but it does kill many opps' 5m. You may miss slams
: sometimes, but it's very unlikely after partner's pass and
: RHO's opening. 2H can also be an option for solid players.
: sometimes, 2H may get passed out, but it's rare.
: Also, 2H then later 4H may describe your defensive potential
: better, but even like that, if you partner can bid 5H
: over 4S, it's often right even if you overcall 4H over 1S.
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 5 yeah, this is a rare hand. I think double then jump H suite
may discribe the situation better.
with CA and one honor in H, slam is in sight
4H towards pd's passed hand usually more premptive, this hand
may be too good to bid 4H
2H is another choice, but need concrete partnership to understand
the power of H suite in successive bidding
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I bid 4H and hope to make it. 4H may not be able to kill
: 4S, but it does kill many opps' 5m. You may miss slams
: sometimes, but it's very unlikely after partner's pass and
: RHO's opening. 2H can also be an option for solid players.
: sometimes, 2H may get passed out, but it's rare.
: Also, 2H then later 4H may describe your defensive potential
: better, but even like that, if you partner can bid 5H
: over 4S, it's often right even if you overcall 4H over 1S.
| g******a
发帖数: 667 | 6 先加倍，然后再跳叫出红心套。
这样叫的缺点是你下家可能就直接4S封局了。。。
对方对第三家开叫的约定很重要。
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 7 i'd double, and bid hearts again.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| g******e
发帖数: 75 | 8 阻击：4h
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| g******e
发帖数: 75 | 9 the same here,:)
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I bid 4H and hope to make it. 4H may not be able to kill
: 4S, but it does kill many opps' 5m. You may miss slams
: sometimes, but it's very unlikely after partner's pass and
: RHO's opening. 2H can also be an option for solid players.
: sometimes, 2H may get passed out, but it's rare.
: Also, 2H then later 4H may describe your defensive potential
: better, but even like that, if you partner can bid 5H
: over 4S, it's often right even if you overcall 4H over 1S.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 10 This is pretty much my thinking. I choosed 4H at the table and it worked very
well. LHO has minor 2065 and bid 4N but his pd passed.
Of course this is not the point of the hand. The point of the hand is to make
a bid to preempt opp while keep our chance.
I think 4H does this job while 2H doesnot. Why? It is very likely pd will pass
2H bid while holding so many hands that would make 4H.
Second, if opps bid 4S. You face same question of to bid or not when you bid 4
H and forced opps to bid 4S. 2H
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I bid 4H and hope to make it. 4H may not be able to kill
: 4S, but it does kill many opps' 5m. You may miss slams
: sometimes, but it's very unlikely after partner's pass and
: RHO's opening. 2H can also be an option for solid players.
: sometimes, 2H may get passed out, but it's rare.
: Also, 2H then later 4H may describe your defensive potential
: better, but even like that, if you partner can bid 5H
: over 4S, it's often right even if you overcall 4H over 1S.
| | | x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 11 This hand is not suitable for X.
X should show very good defence strength as well. It more likely to show you h
ave strong hand overall.
With 8H, it is more likely you'd better bid as accurate as early as possible i
nstead of waiting to exchange as much information as possible and not affraid
of Opps bidding at all, which is the way we use X.
No wonder 4H is the correct bid.
Maybe you are worrying about you have a strong hand and this hand is not only
bid for cut Opps throat, but also you want t
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: This is pretty much my thinking. I choosed 4H at the table and it worked very
: well. LHO has minor 2065 and bid 4N but his pd passed.
: Of course this is not the point of the hand. The point of the hand is to make
: a bid to preempt opp while keep our chance.
: I think 4H does this job while 2H doesnot. Why? It is very likely pd will pass
: 2H bid while holding so many hands that would make 4H.
: Second, if opps bid 4S. You face same question of to bid or not when you bid 4
: H and forced opps to bid 4S. 2H
| S*****n
发帖数: 227 | 12 Nobody chooses 2S? :-)
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 13 2S should show H+m. If you discussed it with pd and 2S could be single heart s
uit,that is fine. But I dont recommend it.
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: Nobody chooses 2S? :-)
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 14 Actually we have slam, coz pd holds a near perfect hand:
S: AXXX
H: X
D: XXX
C: AQXXX
Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: This hand is not suitable for X.
: X should show very good defence strength as well. It more likely to show you h
: ave strong hand overall.
: With 8H, it is more likely you'd better bid as accurate as early as possible i
: nstead of waiting to exchange as much information as possible and not affraid
: of Opps bidding at all, which is the way we use X.
: No wonder 4H is the correct bid.
: Maybe you are worrying about you have a strong hand and this hand is not only
: bid for cut Opps throat, but also you want t
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 15 I don't quite understand.
RHO hold QJxx, how could you have slam?
It is like double dummy....
S: AXXX
H: X
D: XXX
C: AQXXX
Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Actually we have slam, coz pd holds a near perfect hand:
: S: AXXX
: H: X
: D: XXX
: C: AQXXX
: Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
: But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
| S*****n
发帖数: 227 | 16 7-1分的heart安全打法怎么会有两个将牌失张呢。
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: I don't quite understand.
: RHO hold QJxx, how could you have slam?
: It is like double dummy....
:
: S: AXXX
: H: X
: D: XXX
: C: AQXXX
: Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
: But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
| g******a
发帖数: 667 | 17 我觉得你拿一手强牌没必要直接叫到局。你叫4H也阻止不了，反而坚定你下家
叫4S的决心。还是加倍一下再出套能够显示出自己的实际牌情。
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: This hand is not suitable for X.
: X should show very good defence strength as well. It more likely to show you h
: ave strong hand overall.
: With 8H, it is more likely you'd better bid as accurate as early as possible i
: nstead of waiting to exchange as much information as possible and not affraid
: of Opps bidding at all, which is the way we use X.
: No wonder 4H is the correct bid.
: Maybe you are worrying about you have a strong hand and this hand is not only
: bid for cut Opps throat, but also you want t
| g******e
发帖数: 75 | 18 我不这样看，你看前两家都pass了，然后你上家开叫。所以估计一下对方两个人的点合起来可能23、4点左右。这种时候，他们是不会叫4s成局的（当然成不成局应该不是考虑的重点）。那么在己方点力不够的情况下来打4h，最后肯定是赚点的。
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你拿一手强牌没必要直接叫到局。你叫4H也阻止不了，反而坚定你下家
: 叫4S的决心。还是加倍一下再出套能够显示出自己的实际牌情。
| c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 19 completely agree with u :) I don't expect slam neither
i mention double simply because at that time the jump 4H
has somewhat premptive tendency, with absolutely S short
if i were holding your hand, i don't mind to bid double to
force partner one round. double usually need to promise
defense power while here you are willing to play 4H directly,
it does not matter much and successive bidding will further
clarify the situation :)
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Actually we have slam, coz pd holds a near perfect hand:
: S: AXXX
: H: X
: D: XXX
: C: AQXXX
: Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
: But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
| m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 20 i bid 4h, 5h, and X 5s.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: Vul: Both
: Dealer: West
: Sitting south, you hold:
: S: X
: H: AKT9XXXX
: D: AQ
: C: XX
: After two passes, east opened 1S. What do you bid now?
| | | m****r
发帖数: 6639 | 21 i had my period a few days agao. now, i am normal again.
【在 m****r 的大作中提到】
: i'd double, and bid hearts again.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 22 You must assume at least one minor suit King is on side to make 6H. If DK is o
ff then CK will almost certainly be off as RHO opened. So we have to assume DK
is on.
If DK is on, then we should finesse CQ first to see if we can afford to play s
afely in trump suit.
So the correct play is Dx back to DQ, then Cx to CQ, if it wins, then Hx from
dummy, cover any card played by RHO. If CQ loses to CK, then play H2-2.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: I don't quite understand.
: RHO hold QJxx, how could you have slam?
: It is like double dummy....
:
: S: AXXX
: H: X
: D: XXX
: C: AQXXX
: Though RHo has QJxx of hearts, both minor kings are on side.
: But I dont think bidding slam is the issue here.
| x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 23 1) it is 8-1 not 7-1
2) like I said, you can only consider it is one loser under double dummy.
The point is, you have to make sure that both mKs are on the right position an
d usually you simply can't have the change to test that before doing the trump
.
so my conclusion is, usually, although there is a 安全打法, you can't afford t
o "use" it sometimes. My instinct is the normal play will be test trump is 22,
if it is, and either one of the fin will guide you through, if not, since the
re is not eno
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 7-1分的heart安全打法怎么会有两个将牌失张呢。
| g******a
发帖数: 667 | 24 看你怎么想了,如果你觉得满贯没希望,4H就可以了,不过你对家肯定会低估你的
牌力.
这个case,4H阻击不了对方的4S,我觉得意义不大.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: This is pretty much my thinking. I choosed 4H at the table and it worked very
: well. LHO has minor 2065 and bid 4N but his pd passed.
: Of course this is not the point of the hand. The point of the hand is to make
: a bid to preempt opp while keep our chance.
: I think 4H does this job while 2H doesnot. Why? It is very likely pd will pass
: 2H bid while holding so many hands that would make 4H.
: Second, if opps bid 4S. You face same question of to bid or not when you bid 4
: H and forced opps to bid 4S. 2H
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 25 你仔细想想，RHO开叫，你要做6H，同伴需要什么样的牌。
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 看你怎么想了,如果你觉得满贯没希望,4H就可以了,不过你对家肯定会低估你的
: 牌力.
: 这个case,4H阻击不了对方的4S,我觉得意义不大.
| d***a
发帖数: 57 | 26 一个小小的补充：朋友告诉我namyats convention，
http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/Namyats.html
比较有趣。在我看来两手牌唯一的区别是假如同伴手上抓了
两个旁门A，需不需要激动一下。
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: 你仔细想想，RHO开叫，你要做6H，同伴需要什么样的牌。
| g******a
发帖数: 667 | 27 这个约定不适合用在你这首牌.
这个约定是用在当你有满贯兴趣但是需要同伴一张将牌大牌支持时用的.
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: 一个小小的补充：朋友告诉我namyats convention，
: http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/Namyats.html
: 比较有趣。在我看来两手牌唯一的区别是假如同伴手上抓了
: 两个旁门A，需不需要激动一下。
| w*****n
发帖数: 155 | 28 4h谁说是狙击了？
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 看你怎么想了,如果你觉得满贯没希望,4H就可以了,不过你对家肯定会低估你的
: 牌力.
: 这个case,4H阻击不了对方的4S,我觉得意义不大.
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