i****e
发帖数: 642 | 1 LHO pd RHO me
1C P 1S P
3S P 4S 4NT
P P 5S AP
We were white vs red. I held
x
J9xxxx
KJxxx
x
My pd passed my 4NT! Finally ops play 5S down 1.
I was kicked out by LHO, who said I was a cheater, and had no right bid 4NT.
I want to cry .... | b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 2 Anything can happen on BBO. I stopped caring about what others said long
time ago, hehe.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: LHO pd RHO me
: 1C P 1S P
: 3S P 4S 4NT
: P P 5S AP
: We were white vs red. I held
: x
: J9xxxx
: KJxxx
: x
: My pd passed my 4NT! Finally ops play 5S down 1.
| c***c
发帖数: 6234 | 3 很好的例子。
4nt什么意思？
当然同伴不能pass是肯定的。但同伴叫了5C你打算叫5H？
开交1C红桃至少两张，很可能是3张，同伴两张怎么办？
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: LHO pd RHO me
: 1C P 1S P
: 3S P 4S 4NT
: P P 5S AP
: We were white vs red. I held
: x
: J9xxxx
: KJxxx
: x
: My pd passed my 4NT! Finally ops play 5S down 1.
| i****e
发帖数: 642 | 4 I will correct 5C to 5D, then pard will pass or correct to 5H. 1C opener may
not have balanced hand in the case. For the real hand, pard had somehting
like
xxx
KTx
Tx
AQxxx
5H will be -2 if play DQ on side.
One should not care these kind of behavior at BBO. One worry for these kind
of poor players is, if they treat anything they don't understand as cheating
, how can they get improved? The even worse manner is to boot players for
these non-existing reasons.
【在 c***c 的大作中提到】
: 很好的例子。
: 4nt什么意思？
: 当然同伴不能pass是肯定的。但同伴叫了5C你打算叫5H？
: 开交1C红桃至少两张，很可能是3张，同伴两张怎么办？
| p*********6
发帖数: 679 | 5 The opp might get mad because you took his fun of 'declaring' away in the
pickup games (in Main?). I am sure he understood your 4nt bid, but got mad
when your pd passed (- now the 4nt bid was just for disrupting). I saw hosts
routinely kick out the psychic bidders. | b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 6 I don't know where this assumption came from. For 99% players on BBO random
games,their goal is not to improve. You simply cannot improve by playing
random games, in fact you may damage your skill level if not being careful.
I play random games only to kill some time. If I want to improve, I play set
game with known partner/opponents; even then, we have to ignore the IMP/MP
pair scores, because the results generated at other random tables are
meaningless.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: I will correct 5C to 5D, then pard will pass or correct to 5H. 1C opener may
: not have balanced hand in the case. For the real hand, pard had somehting
: like
: xxx
: KTx
: Tx
: AQxxx
: 5H will be -2 if play DQ on side.
: One should not care these kind of behavior at BBO. One worry for these kind
: of poor players is, if they treat anything they don't understand as cheating
| i****e
发帖数: 642 | 7 Partly agree.
When you are at certain level, you are right for what you said, including
partner, opponents, and scores. If you are a beginner, playing more will
always help no matter it is with regular or random partners. In the latter
case, you just need more practice to get a feeling of the game.
random
.
set
MP
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: I don't know where this assumption came from. For 99% players on BBO random
: games,their goal is not to improve. You simply cannot improve by playing
: random games, in fact you may damage your skill level if not being careful.
: I play random games only to kill some time. If I want to improve, I play set
: game with known partner/opponents; even then, we have to ignore the IMP/MP
: pair scores, because the results generated at other random tables are
: meaningless.
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 8 For beginners, it is much more damaging to play with random players (
especially those who self-claims adv/exp and teach others wrong stuff). What
I would recommend is to play a robot game instead. These games are free at
BBO. Although these robots make awful bidding and defense errors at times,
you get to see a lot of hand patterns, and you get to play lots of hands (
and the pace is much quicker too). In fact, I know a national champion who
does just that a few days before major NABC games, he plays hands with
robots for entire days. After playing nearly a thousand hands in a very
concentrated amount of time, he is tuned to good form for intuitive bridge.
I shall try same strategy next time. :-)
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: Partly agree.
: When you are at certain level, you are right for what you said, including
: partner, opponents, and scores. If you are a beginner, playing more will
: always help no matter it is with regular or random partners. In the latter
: case, you just need more practice to get a feeling of the game.
:
: random
: .
: set
: MP
| l****a
发帖数: 272 | 9 至于对手的一些不友好行为, 其他人讲了不少了.
我提几点牌本身的问题,
1, 局况有利, 1S 之后, 要是叫 unusual 1NT 或者 2NT 如何?
2，假设pd 明白你4NT 是双套, 但是没有好配合, 局况好, pass 又怎么不行?
谁也没说4NT 是逼叫的. 对方怎么叫是他们自己的问题. 4NT如果对方不X,
那就打呗, 随便他们打下几个. 如果对方选择继续叫牌, 或者X, 你们再考虑怎么继续. | i****e
发帖数: 642 | 10
That is perfectly fine in my opinion. But as you can see, both pd and opps
don't understand 4NT, so 1NT or 2NT would be even disastrous :)
My thought was that, if opps stayed at 3 level, I would let them play.
续.
Passing 4NT won't be a disaster. I remember the blue team played un-doubled
1-1 5C, and won the hand :)
For serious partnership, I guess passing 4NT (only at this color) may mean
no preference for known two suits, and ask partner to bid his better suit
after double.
【在 l****a 的大作中提到】
: 至于对手的一些不友好行为, 其他人讲了不少了.
: 我提几点牌本身的问题,
: 1, 局况有利, 1S 之后, 要是叫 unusual 1NT 或者 2NT 如何?
: 2，假设pd 明白你4NT 是双套, 但是没有好配合, 局况好, pass 又怎么不行?
: 谁也没说4NT 是逼叫的. 对方怎么叫是他们自己的问题. 4NT如果对方不X,
: 那就打呗, 随便他们打下几个. 如果对方选择继续叫牌, 或者X, 你们再考虑怎么继续.
| i****e
发帖数: 642 | 11 That is true. I just noticed robot players recently. I think robot is better
than a lot of BBO experts :)
The only problem is robot won't discuss anything with you. But for those
players like the one who kicked me out, I don't think he listens to anyone .
..
What
at
.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: For beginners, it is much more damaging to play with random players (
: especially those who self-claims adv/exp and teach others wrong stuff). What
: I would recommend is to play a robot game instead. These games are free at
: BBO. Although these robots make awful bidding and defense errors at times,
: you get to see a lot of hand patterns, and you get to play lots of hands (
: and the pace is much quicker too). In fact, I know a national champion who
: does just that a few days before major NABC games, he plays hands with
: robots for entire days. After playing nearly a thousand hands in a very
: concentrated amount of time, he is tuned to good form for intuitive bridge.
: I shall try same strategy next time. :-)
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 12 一般说来是早叫为好，避免后期猜测。也许这是一把失配的牌，同伴手持4-1-2-6。就
算是4-1-3-5或4-2-2-5，也未必是个划算的牺牲。
另：unusual 1NT意义不大，在轻开叫和轻应叫盛行的今天，1NT有必要作为自然叫品。
又：理论上说，此时的4NT应该保证两个低花套。只有这种情况下你前期没法叫2NT（因
为那将是显示红心和方块），只能通过延迟的4NT来显示。
【在 l****a 的大作中提到】
: 至于对手的一些不友好行为, 其他人讲了不少了.
: 我提几点牌本身的问题,
: 1, 局况有利, 1S 之后, 要是叫 unusual 1NT 或者 2NT 如何?
: 2，假设pd 明白你4NT 是双套, 但是没有好配合, 局况好, pass 又怎么不行?
: 谁也没说4NT 是逼叫的. 对方怎么叫是他们自己的问题. 4NT如果对方不X,
: 那就打呗, 随便他们打下几个. 如果对方选择继续叫牌, 或者X, 你们再考虑怎么继续.
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