d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 1 个人感觉London Business School 名气大一些，placement也会好很多。
但是对finance比较兴趣，对accounting不是很了解。申LBS的时候也是申请的finance
，被拒了，
accounting那边对我的profile比较感兴趣，就要了我。
奖学金的话，LBS给17200磅/年，UFL给22000刀/年。比较生活成本，在Florida可以生
活的更舒适一些。
各位是什么意见呢？多谢。 |
a**n
发帖数: 3801 | 2 LBS吧
finance
【在 d*******6 的大作中提到】
: 个人感觉London Business School 名气大一些，placement也会好很多。
: 但是对finance比较兴趣，对accounting不是很了解。申LBS的时候也是申请的finance
: ，被拒了，
: accounting那边对我的profile比较感兴趣，就要了我。
: 奖学金的话，LBS给17200磅/年，UFL给22000刀/年。比较生活成本，在Florida可以生
: 活的更舒适一些。
: 各位是什么意见呢？多谢。
|
s***r
发帖数: 1121 | 3 I admit it is a hard decision to make.
Ritter is at UFL; and since you like finance and if you do well with Ritter,
you probably want to go UFL.
But finance market is going down and very competitive.
Accounting area is promising. LBS is better than UFL in terms of reputation.
In addition, as an accounting student, you still can do a lot of research
in finance.
I list the tradeoff; and you make your mind.
Let me know where you end up, if you do not mind. Good luck. |
z****k
发帖数: 1057 | 4 当然是LBS! 差两个档次的学校啊
去欧洲转一圈就知道LBS多牛逼了
就算毕业后铁了心来美国做发考题，lbs也不会比ufl差
finance
【在 d*******6 的大作中提到】
: 个人感觉London Business School 名气大一些，placement也会好很多。
: 但是对finance比较兴趣，对accounting不是很了解。申LBS的时候也是申请的finance
: ，被拒了，
: accounting那边对我的profile比较感兴趣，就要了我。
: 奖学金的话，LBS给17200磅/年，UFL给22000刀/年。比较生活成本，在Florida可以生
: 活的更舒适一些。
: 各位是什么意见呢？多谢。
|
d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 5 Thanks.
What you said are very true. The accounting program coordinator at LBS
called
me and said it is easier to get a job in top business schools for accounting
PhDs. I do know that corporate finance is one of research topics in
accounting,
although I do not know exactly the difference between accounting and finance
research.
I will update you on my decision.
Ritter,
reputation.
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: I admit it is a hard decision to make.
: Ritter is at UFL; and since you like finance and if you do well with Ritter,
: you probably want to go UFL.
: But finance market is going down and very competitive.
: Accounting area is promising. LBS is better than UFL in terms of reputation.
: In addition, as an accounting student, you still can do a lot of research
: in finance.
: I list the tradeoff; and you make your mind.
: Let me know where you end up, if you do not mind. Good luck.
|
m********5
发帖数: 619 | 6 go with LBS
LBS just got Irem Tuna and she is in the circle
UFL has a strong corporate finance group, but their placement is mediocre
but again, make sure you can teach accounting
accounting
finance
【在 d*******6 的大作中提到】
: Thanks.
: What you said are very true. The accounting program coordinator at LBS
: called
: me and said it is easier to get a job in top business schools for accounting
: PhDs. I do know that corporate finance is one of research topics in
: accounting,
: although I do not know exactly the difference between accounting and finance
: research.
: I will update you on my decision.
:
|
x********4
发帖数: 405 | 7 the last point is THE point...
both finance and accounting are very interesting and there are a lot of
overlapping topics. LBS is clearly a much better one in terms of research
and reputation. However, teaching accoutning to undergraduate stds and MBAs
is a different story. It is not the case that everyone can teach accoutning.
...
i taught a lecture of 75 minutes for financial statment analysis and most of
my students went to sleep...
【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: go with LBS
: LBS just got Irem Tuna and she is in the circle
: UFL has a strong corporate finance group, but their placement is mediocre
: but again, make sure you can teach accounting
:
: accounting
: finance
|
d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 8 Hum. I did not think of the issue of teaching at all. My accounting
background
is very poor. I have been mainly studying economics and finance during
undergraduate and graduate study.
One more thing I need to consider...
【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: go with LBS
: LBS just got Irem Tuna and she is in the circle
: UFL has a strong corporate finance group, but their placement is mediocre
: but again, make sure you can teach accounting
:
: accounting
: finance
|
s***r
发帖数: 1121 | 9 You do not need to know the pratical accounting knowledge to be an
accounting faculty. Accounting research is totally different from accountng
teaching. The other day I talked to an accounting AP from MIT who does
research in corporate bonds and derivatives, totally nothing to do with pure
accounting knowledge. He told me he could teach, but certainly not a good
teacher. If you graduate from LBS, I think your focus will be on research,
NOT on teaching. So take it easy. |
d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 10 Thanks smxzr. May I know whether you are in the area of finance or
accounting?
accountng
pure
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: You do not need to know the pratical accounting knowledge to be an
: accounting faculty. Accounting research is totally different from accountng
: teaching. The other day I talked to an accounting AP from MIT who does
: research in corporate bonds and derivatives, totally nothing to do with pure
: accounting knowledge. He told me he could teach, but certainly not a good
: teacher. If you graduate from LBS, I think your focus will be on research,
: NOT on teaching. So take it easy.
|
|
|
m********5
发帖数: 619 | 11 no idea who u are talking about
Mozaffar Khan does a lot of traditional EM (accruals) research. Jeffery Ng
and Ewa Sletten also publish in traditional accounting areas like disclosure
and EM.
unless one has an impressive publication record, which is difficult to
achieve for an AP, not teaching well in a top private school would kill one
for tenure. Teaching requirement is somewhat lower for state schools.
accountng
pure
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: You do not need to know the pratical accounting knowledge to be an
: accounting faculty. Accounting research is totally different from accountng
: teaching. The other day I talked to an accounting AP from MIT who does
: research in corporate bonds and derivatives, totally nothing to do with pure
: accounting knowledge. He told me he could teach, but certainly not a good
: teacher. If you graduate from LBS, I think your focus will be on research,
: NOT on teaching. So take it easy.
|
j*****g
发帖数: 21 | 12 当然去LBS,将来即使在美国当faculty，完全可能去牛校，再说Accounting professor
的薪水不比finance professor的薪水少，去UFL后的placement只能去一般的学校，或
teaching college,
去lbs你将来的薪水可能是去ufl将来的薪水的两倍。 |
j*****g
发帖数: 21 | 13 最主要是看placement，你查查两个学校的placement record(往年毕业的学生都去哪了
)，这是最关键的。 |
t**********r
发帖数: 182 | 14 LBS is a top research school where you might want to go. Research school has
very low teaching requirement; otherwise it would be called teaching school
. |
m********5
发帖数: 619 | 15 Research schools do not have lower teaching requirement. They have less
teaching load. MBAs are a tough crowd to please, especially the ones at top
schools. If one can't teach, he/she is out.
has
school
【在 t**********r 的大作中提到】
: LBS is a top research school where you might want to go. Research school has
: very low teaching requirement; otherwise it would be called teaching school
: .
|
h*****n
发帖数: 41 | 16 Florida has a very strong corp and banking group. Jay ritter is there. Mark
Flannery and Chris James are there. Regarding Accounting, Joel Demski is
there as well. He is past president of AAA probably the best accounting
theorist in the states.
LBS has a very strong finance program but its accounting program is sort of
weak. I can not recall any big names there and I am not sure they disclosed
their placement records.
One more thing you might want to ask yourself: do you really want to fight
for |
x********4
发帖数: 405 | 17 i agree with all your points, but i guess it is too early for a incoming phd
student to consider your last point...getting in top schools as phd
students ~= getting in top schools as faculty. Of course, the chance is much
higher...
Mark
of
disclosed
8
【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】
: Florida has a very strong corp and banking group. Jay ritter is there. Mark
: Flannery and Chris James are there. Regarding Accounting, Joel Demski is
: there as well. He is past president of AAA probably the best accounting
: theorist in the states.
: LBS has a very strong finance program but its accounting program is sort of
: weak. I can not recall any big names there and I am not sure they disclosed
: their placement records.
: One more thing you might want to ask yourself: do you really want to fight
: for
|
s********a
发帖数: 1100 | 18 LBS is much much better |
d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 19 我问了LBS的accounting placement,那边只给了三个人的placement：Hong Kong U,
LSE and Lancaster University Management School。似乎也不是很好。LBS的
accounting program是不
是比较新？
Florida 最近的一些placement：Syracuse University， University of Vermont，
Virginia
Tech， Univ. of Kentucky， Univ. of Missouri at Columbia等等。
【在 j*****g 的大作中提到】
: 最主要是看placement，你查查两个学校的placement record(往年毕业的学生都去哪了
: )，这是最关键的。
|
s*******i
发帖数: 741 | 20 Not true. PhD graduated from LSB is very difficult to get a job in US.
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】
: LBS is much much better
|
|
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d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 21 An accounting PhD I know said it might be difficult for LBS accounting PhD
to
place in US business schools. This is my concern too. Accounting PhD from
LBS
do not have as good placement as their finance PhD.
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】
: Not true. PhD graduated from LSB is very difficult to get a job in US.
|
S****Y
发帖数: 4634 | 22 还有去ESSEC的。他们accg program是比较新。
【在 d*******6 的大作中提到】
: 我问了LBS的accounting placement,那边只给了三个人的placement：Hong Kong U,
: LSE and Lancaster University Management School。似乎也不是很好。LBS的
: accounting program是不
: 是比较新？
: Florida 最近的一些placement：Syracuse University， University of Vermont，
: Virginia
: Tech， Univ. of Kentucky， Univ. of Missouri at Columbia等等。
|
S****Y
发帖数: 4634 | 23 lbs最近几年招了俩还行的，一个assistant prof一个associate prof,加上以前的
shiva,说不定凑合，不过以前的placement那是... 一个program的改善不是那么容易的
事，而且貌似
他们phd学生也很少。要我就选UFL finance。
finance
【在 d*******6 的大作中提到】
: 个人感觉London Business School 名气大一些，placement也会好很多。
: 但是对finance比较兴趣，对accounting不是很了解。申LBS的时候也是申请的finance
: ，被拒了，
: accounting那边对我的profile比较感兴趣，就要了我。
: 奖学金的话，LBS给17200磅/年，UFL给22000刀/年。比较生活成本，在Florida可以生
: 活的更舒适一些。
: 各位是什么意见呢？多谢。
|
d*******6
发帖数: 9 | 24 FYI, I am going to UFL. Thank you for all your thoughts! |
h*****n
发帖数: 41 | |
q********m
发帖数: 3234 | 26
MBAs
accoutning.
of
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I
always skip that, kaka
【在 x********4 的大作中提到】
: the last point is THE point...
: both finance and accounting are very interesting and there are a lot of
: overlapping topics. LBS is clearly a much better one in terms of research
: and reputation. However, teaching accoutning to undergraduate stds and MBAs
: is a different story. It is not the case that everyone can teach accoutning.
: ...
: i taught a lecture of 75 minutes for financial statment analysis and most of
: my students went to sleep...
|
q********m
发帖数: 3234 | 27
of
disclosed
weak 啊? hmm, 我同学去了那里
【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】
: Great choice, Cong!
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