G**********8
发帖数: 38 | 1 本人正在写计算机的硕士论文,老板的一些修改意见,想请教一下大家的想法
1. 我使用别人的程序,已经在文中引用相关文献,只要找那个作者的主页,自然可以找到
程序. 用这个程序生成的图片也在文中有引用. 但我老板要我在图片的标题中注明这个
是哪个文献,这是否多此一举?
2. 用了网上的免费程序, 而且这些程序没有说明一定要引用,我自己改了拿过来用也无
法引用,老板让我把网站列出来.
3. 我曾经向一篇作者要过一些相关程序,人家在文章中多没直接引用这些别人的程序,
因为这些程序的作者并没有说你用他的程序就要引用,这种情况下如何处理?
我看我自己老板写的文章,都没列的这么细节.就象你自己把程序实现出来,然后用了别
人一些其他code,但假如那些作者没要求你引用,你会把这些code来自哪里都说出来了吗?
我觉得是别人的,我们都要给credit, 但有些免费程序来自网上,而后你修改,是否还要
把细节全部列出来.
谢谢 | r**t
发帖数: 937 | 2 你说的这些情况，都是该加的。rule of thumb：当你不确定是不是要加引用的时候，都
应该加。
另外，加上引用不会降低你文章本身的credit。
,
吗?
【在 G**********8 的大作中提到】
: 本人正在写计算机的硕士论文,老板的一些修改意见,想请教一下大家的想法
: 1. 我使用别人的程序,已经在文中引用相关文献,只要找那个作者的主页,自然可以找到
: 程序. 用这个程序生成的图片也在文中有引用. 但我老板要我在图片的标题中注明这个
: 是哪个文献,这是否多此一举?
: 2. 用了网上的免费程序, 而且这些程序没有说明一定要引用,我自己改了拿过来用也无
: 法引用,老板让我把网站列出来.
: 3. 我曾经向一篇作者要过一些相关程序,人家在文章中多没直接引用这些别人的程序,
: 因为这些程序的作者并没有说你用他的程序就要引用,这种情况下如何处理?
: 我看我自己老板写的文章,都没列的这么细节.就象你自己把程序实现出来,然后用了别
: 人一些其他code,但假如那些作者没要求你引用,你会把这些code来自哪里都说出来了吗?
| G**********8
发帖数: 38 | 3 Thanks. If I use other people's code, definitely I would put the paper
reference on. I would not give the credit to myself. But do you really need
to add the website to tell others where the code is obtained? When I read
other people's work, only few papers would exactly do that.
，都
【在 r**t 的大作中提到】
: 你说的这些情况，都是该加的。rule of thumb：当你不确定是不是要加引用的时候，都
: 应该加。
: 另外，加上引用不会降低你文章本身的credit。
:
: ,
: 吗?
| z*****n
发帖数: 7639 | 4 如果这code是published，你应该给出link。
如果这code是你向原作者私下要的，没有什么必要。
一般源代码都不是公开的吧？
need
【在 G**********8 的大作中提到】
: Thanks. If I use other people's code, definitely I would put the paper
: reference on. I would not give the credit to myself. But do you really need
: to add the website to tell others where the code is obtained? When I read
: other people's work, only few papers would exactly do that.
:
: ，都
| G**********8
发帖数: 38 | 5 If the code is published, usually you can cite their papers. But I didn't
see many papers put a link or website to tell where the code is obtained. It
should be very easy if you go to the authors' website to find it. Is that
right?
It is the free source code where you can modify and redistribute it.
【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果这code是published，你应该给出link。
: 如果这code是你向原作者私下要的，没有什么必要。
: 一般源代码都不是公开的吧？
:
: need
| z*****n
发帖数: 7639 | 6 你是cite人家paper中的idea还是cite人家的code？
如果code公布了，应该提啊。如果code没有公布，
你到哪儿去找reference？
It
【在 G**********8 的大作中提到】
: If the code is published, usually you can cite their papers. But I didn't
: see many papers put a link or website to tell where the code is obtained. It
: should be very easy if you go to the authors' website to find it. Is that
: right?
: It is the free source code where you can modify and redistribute it.
| G**********8
发帖数: 38 | 7 For example, if the published paper released its source code, and stated
that if anyone used this code, please cited the paper.
When we use this code, the paper has been cited. We have already
acknowledged the source of this code. Is it really necessary you put the
link for this code? The authors of the code even didn't ask you to put the
link of the code.
If you checked most of the published papers, they will only cite the papers.
For the link, it is not a must, from my opinion.
It is just my thought. Welcome to discuss with me. Thanks. | r**t
发帖数: 937 | 8 我们找个参考：如果学生交作业用了别人的code没有注明（不管是别人paper附带的
code还是open source网站上的code），被抓出来肯定是按作弊处理的。
写paper的时候难道不应该更严格一点要求自己？
你首页说的三种情况，都应该要注明的。否则遇到较真的reviewer会很麻烦。
可以作为例外的一种情况：如果cite了paper（明确说用了这个paper的code），我觉得
给不给链接都两可。 | G**********8
发帖数: 38 | 9 That what confuses me the most. When I read lots of papers from CVPR, they
usually will cite the sources of paper, but do not put the links or any
other information. If you read the papers, you would find the source. Why do
you bother put a link anyway? Besides, you may not have permission to
redistribute the code.
Usually, for the open source program, you've already modified it and adapted to your own needs. For example, you develop some applications based on OpenCV. You would only name the OpenCV as your platform and give the credit to that. But what be any of use to put the OpenCV website in your paper?
For the homework, if you use other people's code, definitely you need to cite the source. That is out of question. | p*********g
发帖数: 226 | 10 在没有space限制的前提下，我看不出引用 code 的 link 对你的paper有什么不利影响。一般能引则引。
你是不是觉得这样会降低你自己的 credit? 这样就多虑了。
别人要是什么时候拿着这个找你的麻烦，你有这个工夫去反驳，还不如写的时候 cite 一下。有益无害。 | r**t
发帖数: 937 | 11
do
除了cite文章以外，我还会写“我从xxx得到了code来进行对比试验”。
adapted to your own needs. For example, you develop some applications based
on OpenCV. You would only name the OpenCV as your platform and give the
credit to that. But what be any of use to put the OpenCV website in your
paper?
这是应该的，很简单，就写I used OpenCV http://...../，或者加个footnote。
cite the source. That is out of question.
【在 G**********8 的大作中提到】
: That what confuses me the most. When I read lots of papers from CVPR, they
: usually will cite the sources of paper, but do not put the links or any
: other information. If you read the papers, you would find the source. Why do
: you bother put a link anyway? Besides, you may not have permission to
: redistribute the code.
: Usually, for the open source program, you've already modified it and adapted to your own needs. For example, you develop some applications based on OpenCV. You would only name the OpenCV as your platform and give the credit to that. But what be any of use to put the OpenCV website in your paper?
: For the homework, if you use other people's code, definitely you need to cite the source. That is out of question.
| r**t
发帖数: 937 | 12 我也不理解为啥他那么执着.....
响。一般能引则引。
cite 一下。有益无害。
【在 p*********g 的大作中提到】
: 在没有space限制的前提下，我看不出引用 code 的 link 对你的paper有什么不利影响。一般能引则引。
: 你是不是觉得这样会降低你自己的 credit? 这样就多虑了。
: 别人要是什么时候拿着这个找你的麻烦，你有这个工夫去反驳，还不如写的时候 cite 一下。有益无害。
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