W*******e
发帖数: 57 | 1 Our group (including both ph.d. students and professors) decided (by some prof
) to use alphabetical order for the journal paper. I happen to be in the last
position because of my last name. Should I request them put a remark on the
paper indicating the author names are ordered alphabetically? since for now
they didn't give any remard for the author names (except for the author
schools Emails, etc).
I would appreciate your suggestion greatly.
Thanks a lot. |
i******y
发帖数: 70 | 2 are you the author who drives the paper and contributes the most?
prof
last
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: Our group (including both ph.d. students and professors) decided (by some prof
: ) to use alphabetical order for the journal paper. I happen to be in the last
: position because of my last name. Should I request them put a remark on the
: paper indicating the author names are ordered alphabetically? since for now
: they didn't give any remard for the author names (except for the author
: schools Emails, etc).
: I would appreciate your suggestion greatly.
: Thanks a lot.
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W*******e
发帖数: 57 | 3 I did mathematical modeling and solving, they did simulation and analysis. So
we are about half-and-half. I would say without my work, there cannot be this
paper.
【在 i******y 的大作中提到】
: are you the author who drives the paper and contributes the most?
:
: prof
: last
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l***r
发帖数: 7 | 4 seems not half-half. simulation and analysis is easy with modelling available.
who wrote the paper? If you each wrote your part, I feel you should be the 1st
.
So
this
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: I did mathematical modeling and solving, they did simulation and analysis. So
: we are about half-and-half. I would say without my work, there cannot be this
: paper.
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W*******e
发帖数: 57 | 5 Thanks for the words.
Sigh, things are not easy, politics are involved.
It's hard to explain. I only hope it is not too weird to remark that the
author names are alphabetically ordered.
available.
1st
【在 l***r 的大作中提到】
: seems not half-half. simulation and analysis is easy with modelling available.
: who wrote the paper? If you each wrote your part, I feel you should be the 1st
: .
:
: So
: this
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m***t
发帖数: 46 | 6 It depends on your field.
If you are working in theoretical computer science, it seems that people do
not care about the name order. But for most others, you may be in trouble when
looking for a job, especially faculty job.
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the words.
: Sigh, things are not easy, politics are involved.
: It's hard to explain. I only hope it is not too weird to remark that the
: author names are alphabetically ordered.
:
: available.
: 1st
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y***u
发帖数: 101 | 7 老板说了算，别争。
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the words.
: Sigh, things are not easy, politics are involved.
: It's hard to explain. I only hope it is not too weird to remark that the
: author names are alphabetically ordered.
:
: available.
: 1st
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m***t
发帖数: 46 | 8 en.
If you are unhappy with that, leave that place as early as possible
【在 y***u 的大作中提到】
: 老板说了算，别争。
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w******T
发帖数: 71 | 9 在CS方面，按字母排作者的位置，是个不争的事实。
【在 m***t 的大作中提到】
: en.
: If you are unhappy with that, leave that place as early as possible
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r****c
发帖数: 2585 | 10 agree
You are theory guy
but networking guy may be different
however, networking's modelling and solving
may not be very hard
【在 y***u 的大作中提到】
: 老板说了算，别争。
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M*********e
发帖数: 1988 | 11 So, can't they say that without their work, there cannot be this paper?
If it's the tradition in your group, follow it. Otherwise, you look weird and
others may feel uncomfortable collaborating with you, then you lose more. I
don't think it's worthwhile to argue hard for name ordering. Having stable
collaborators will be very helpful to your career in the long term.
When you look for job, you can say on your c.v that the ordering of names
follow alphabetical order.
So
this
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: I did mathematical modeling and solving, they did simulation and analysis. So
: we are about half-and-half. I would say without my work, there cannot be this
: paper.
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W*******e
发帖数: 57 | 12 Why did many of you guys reply without even reading my first question? ;)
I was not arguing about the author name order. That alphabetical order is fine
.
The thing is, should I request to put remark on the paper saying "The author
names are alphabetically ordered". Otherwise, how do others know if it's the
alphabetical order or not and my name is in the last position will never look
good...
Thanks again for your replies.
and
【在 M*********e 的大作中提到】
: So, can't they say that without their work, there cannot be this paper?
: If it's the tradition in your group, follow it. Otherwise, you look weird and
: others may feel uncomfortable collaborating with you, then you lose more. I
: don't think it's worthwhile to argue hard for name ordering. Having stable
: collaborators will be very helpful to your career in the long term.
: When you look for job, you can say on your c.v that the ordering of names
: follow alphabetical order.
:
: So
: this
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W*******e
发帖数: 57 | 13 I NEVER mentioned I was doing networking modeling, did I?
...it's very weird to see that people can just talk without even knowing what
the topic is being talked about...
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
【在 r****c 的大作中提到】
: agree
: You are theory guy
: but networking guy may be different
: however, networking's modelling and solving
: may not be very hard
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y***u
发帖数: 101 | 14
fine
It will look weird. Never seen a paper with such a remark.
It might be OK to put the remark in your CV.
look
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: Why did many of you guys reply without even reading my first question? ;)
: I was not arguing about the author name order. That alphabetical order is fine
: .
: The thing is, should I request to put remark on the paper saying "The author
: names are alphabetically ordered". Otherwise, how do others know if it's the
: alphabetical order or not and my name is in the last position will never look
: good...
: Thanks again for your replies.
:
: and
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w******T
发帖数: 71 | 15
很同情你，不过，
如果你在文章中加入那个remark，多少有些画蛇添足的味道。
【在 y***u 的大作中提到】
:
: fine
: It will look weird. Never seen a paper with such a remark.
: It might be OK to put the remark in your CV.
: look
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g******e
发帖数: 760 | 16 I have seen some papers with such annotation saying "first and second have
some contribution to this work". I believe the remark he mentioned is fine.
【在 w******T 的大作中提到】
:
: 很同情你，不过，
: 如果你在文章中加入那个remark，多少有些画蛇添足的味道。
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r****c
发帖数: 2585 | 17 I talk about generally
does not specific to your case
what
【在 W*******e 的大作中提到】
: I NEVER mentioned I was doing networking modeling, did I?
: ...it's very weird to see that people can just talk without even knowing what
: the topic is being talked about...
: Anyway, thanks for the reply.
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