t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 1 最近在选老板
有一个project是做biofuel的，不知道这玩意做完了，就业前景怎么样
有没有可能进入oil industry，虽然这个project跟bp有点关系
还有个project是做granular flow
一头雾水，不知道怎么选择好
先谢过了 |
k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 2 you can try to do both, and you will have chances in both upstream (now is
ok) and downstream (now it is very bad now)
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: 最近在选老板
: 有一个project是做biofuel的，不知道这玩意做完了，就业前景怎么样
: 有没有可能进入oil industry，虽然这个project跟bp有点关系
: 还有个project是做granular flow
: 一头雾水，不知道怎么选择好
: 先谢过了
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t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 3 这两个project是不同老板给的
哪个前景好一点？
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: you can try to do both, and you will have chances in both upstream (now is
: ok) and downstream (now it is very bad now)
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e****e
发帖数: 2740 | 4 bio is a big project to be researched |
M******n
发帖数: 138 | 5 but in my opinion, the research will be much like waste of money.
It should be clear that oil and gas are plenty (for at least 100 yrs) before
meaningful production is ceased. Fossil fuels will dominate energy (>2/3)
use in the next several generations to come. The most promising energy
source will be nuclear (and 99% of current energy comes from nuclear one way
or another). Renewable energy (mainly hydraulic) will always play a minor
role, and biofuel is even minor compared with its peers, n
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: bio is a big project to be researched
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t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 6 那如果想做oil的话，什么样的project会比较合适，这个问题可能太general，不好回答
before
)
way
minor
wind,
5%
the
【在 M******n 的大作中提到】
: but in my opinion, the research will be much like waste of money.
: It should be clear that oil and gas are plenty (for at least 100 yrs) before
: meaningful production is ceased. Fossil fuels will dominate energy (>2/3)
: use in the next several generations to come. The most promising energy
: source will be nuclear (and 99% of current energy comes from nuclear one way
: or another). Renewable energy (mainly hydraulic) will always play a minor
: role, and biofuel is even minor compared with its peers, n
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S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 7 5% of total energy cosumption is a large market to play with
before
)
way
minor
wind,
5%
the
【在 M******n 的大作中提到】
: but in my opinion, the research will be much like waste of money.
: It should be clear that oil and gas are plenty (for at least 100 yrs) before
: meaningful production is ceased. Fossil fuels will dominate energy (>2/3)
: use in the next several generations to come. The most promising energy
: source will be nuclear (and 99% of current energy comes from nuclear one way
: or another). Renewable energy (mainly hydraulic) will always play a minor
: role, and biofuel is even minor compared with its peers, n
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t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 8 版主，记得你是做biofuel的，给点建议吧
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 5% of total energy cosumption is a large market to play with
:
: before
: )
: way
: minor
: wind,
: 5%
: the
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e****e
发帖数: 2740 | 9 I totally agree with you, even 5% its about trillion dollars project
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 5% of total energy cosumption is a large market to play with
:
: before
: )
: way
: minor
: wind,
: 5%
: the
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k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 10 KIOR在休斯敦，这个公司好像主攻biofuel的。。
大家觉得有没有前景？？
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 5% of total energy cosumption is a large market to play with
:
: before
: )
: way
: minor
: wind,
: 5%
: the
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S********y
发帖数: 160 | 11 good luck. getting into oil industry needs good luck. |
D***o
发帖数: 7159 | 12 plz give me some good luck!
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: good luck. getting into oil industry needs good luck.
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e*u
发帖数: 99 | 13 有没有前景我不知道
不过感觉KIOR主管都是大牛人
他们招人似乎也只招很牛的人...
(唉，真是废话，不是牛人哪能在这种时候开公司...
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: KIOR在休斯敦，这个公司好像主攻biofuel的。。
: 大家觉得有没有前景？？
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S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 14 我还是建议看兴趣，五年之后，谁知道啥热门
不要做什么分子生物学就好了。。。
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: 版主，记得你是做biofuel的，给点建议吧
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O*******d
发帖数: 69 | 15 The best way to get into oil industry is to study petroleum engineering
directly at TAMU, UT, Stanford. |
f***8
发帖数: 571 | 16 biomaterials or renewably-sourced materials |
k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 17 但是我这种已经化学Ph.D毕业的萎缩男也想在upstream插一脚有什么建议么？？
【在 O*******d 的大作中提到】
: The best way to get into oil industry is to study petroleum engineering
: directly at TAMU, UT, Stanford.
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k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 18 他们最近在扩张。。。好像拿了几十个Million，
下个礼拜我去onsite，看看究竟如何样子的company。。
【在 e*u 的大作中提到】
: 有没有前景我不知道
: 不过感觉KIOR主管都是大牛人
: 他们招人似乎也只招很牛的人...
: (唉，真是废话，不是牛人哪能在这种时候开公司...
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m********a
发帖数: 22 | 19 分子生物学没什么不好！最近我们组就找来一个分子生物学modeling 背景的Post Doc。
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我还是建议看兴趣，五年之后，谁知道啥热门
: 不要做什么分子生物学就好了。。。
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m********a
发帖数: 22 | 20 感觉granular flow应用比较广泛，工程问题多多，很有搞头。
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: 最近在选老板
: 有一个project是做biofuel的，不知道这玩意做完了，就业前景怎么样
: 有没有可能进入oil industry，虽然这个project跟bp有点关系
: 还有个project是做granular flow
: 一头雾水，不知道怎么选择好
: 先谢过了
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k***i
发帖数: 662 | 21 但是学术上面不活跃了
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 感觉granular flow应用比较广泛，工程问题多多，很有搞头。
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c********r
发帖数: 121 | 22 biofuel算是upstream还是downstream？
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: you can try to do both, and you will have chances in both upstream (now is
: ok) and downstream (now it is very bad now)
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k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 23 很特别的领域，从技术上来看和downdream用的差不多，不过目的却是想取代upstream,
upstream那帮人对这个领域都有很大怀疑态度。不过催化届人对此乐此不疲。。。
【在 c********r 的大作中提到】
: biofuel算是upstream还是downstream？
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k***i
发帖数: 662 | 24 upstream，专指油田有关的技术和工程。
biofuel八竿子打不着，所以应该算downstream.
【在 c********r 的大作中提到】
: biofuel算是upstream还是downstream？
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k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 25 可以理解成提供一个除了油田以外的oil source。。
不过可能成本太高，还有一些技术问题，可能不可行。。
【在 k***i 的大作中提到】
: upstream，专指油田有关的技术和工程。
: biofuel八竿子打不着，所以应该算downstream.
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M******n
发帖数: 138 | 26 I agree that 5% energy consumption SEEMS to be a large market.
Now, the biofuel has about 11 billion gallons per year (>95% from food
starch, e.g., corn). It was projected to grow to 36 billion gallons per
year in 2025 (and food feedstock is about 15 billion). It seems to be a
large number, however, it only accounts for 2.7% of petroleum consumption at
current level (86 MMBOE/day, or 1320 billion gallons equivalent per year).
By 2025, it was also projected that petroleum grow by 40-50% (e.g.,
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 5% of total energy cosumption is a large market to play with
:
: before
: )
: way
: minor
: wind,
: 5%
: the
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t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 27 比如呢？
现在这个做granular flow的，应用的是筛分两种大小不同的颗粒
感觉和oil搭不上边
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 感觉granular flow应用比较广泛，工程问题多多，很有搞头。
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S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 28 good point!
这个计算，做不同的假设，可以算出不同的结果
我觉得无所谓，只要让市场调节就好，政府的incentive不会一直这样下去。。。
at
.
【在 M******n 的大作中提到】
: I agree that 5% energy consumption SEEMS to be a large market.
: Now, the biofuel has about 11 billion gallons per year (>95% from food
: starch, e.g., corn). It was projected to grow to 36 billion gallons per
: year in 2025 (and food feedstock is about 15 billion). It seems to be a
: large number, however, it only accounts for 2.7% of petroleum consumption at
: current level (86 MMBOE/day, or 1320 billion gallons equivalent per year).
: By 2025, it was also projected that petroleum grow by 40-50% (e.g.,
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L***O
发帖数: 2571 | 29 transportation sector而言，biofuel 至少应用前景最好。 |
z*h
发帖数: 773 | 30 Energy application decides its production.
Biofuels are used for transportation sector but not good for electricity
generation or burning. Biomass may be the sole sustainable primary energy
source for transportation sector. So it is why it is important to develop
better biofuels. (Note: transportation fuels accounts for ~20 % of the total
energy market based on BTU. In the USA, it is about ~30% of total market).
Biofuels R&D is like dotcom. Most researches are trash, including famous
Amyris and |
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L***O
发帖数: 2571 | 31
希望能听到你的好消息
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 他们最近在扩张。。。好像拿了几十个Million，
: 下个礼拜我去onsite，看看究竟如何样子的company。。
|
L***O
发帖数: 2571 | 32 can you give some arguments on your comments about KIOR, it seems to be an
interesting company, with all due respect.
total
【在 z*h 的大作中提到】
: Energy application decides its production.
: Biofuels are used for transportation sector but not good for electricity
: generation or burning. Biomass may be the sole sustainable primary energy
: source for transportation sector. So it is why it is important to develop
: better biofuels. (Note: transportation fuels accounts for ~20 % of the total
: energy market based on BTU. In the USA, it is about ~30% of total market).
: Biofuels R&D is like dotcom. Most researches are trash, including famous
: Amyris and
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k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 33 已经去onsite了。。感觉是年轻人（刚毕业或者postdoc)和退休人合起来的公司。公司
赚钱主要靠风险投资和政府政策（这届政府要求使用油要达到5%的非化石油组成）。不
过我已经打算接受另外一个大公司的offer了。。paid不高，但是可能稳定一些。。。
【在 L***O 的大作中提到】
: can you give some arguments on your comments about KIOR, it seems to be an
: interesting company, with all due respect.
:
: total
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D***o
发帖数: 7159 | 34 拜大牛
介绍介绍经验吧，俺们学习学习
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 已经去onsite了。。感觉是年轻人（刚毕业或者postdoc)和退休人合起来的公司。公司
: 赚钱主要靠风险投资和政府政策（这届政府要求使用油要达到5%的非化石油组成）。不
: 过我已经打算接受另外一个大公司的offer了。。paid不高，但是可能稳定一些。。。
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L***O
发帖数: 2571 | 35
恭喜恭喜，你申请的是他们什么职位？
方便介绍一下你的申请经历和提供一些就业信息么？
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 已经去onsite了。。感觉是年轻人（刚毕业或者postdoc)和退休人合起来的公司。公司
: 赚钱主要靠风险投资和政府政策（这届政府要求使用油要达到5%的非化石油组成）。不
: 过我已经打算接受另外一个大公司的offer了。。paid不高，但是可能稳定一些。。。
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L***O
发帖数: 2571 | 36 如果方便请加我email:c*******[email protected]，我想请教一些关于能源方面工作的信息
，谢谢了。 |
k*******n
发帖数: 2399 | 37 牛人说不上。。这个职位也是我老板推荐的。。是从属于product quality department
，主要解决的pyrolysis oil里面太多水和于fossil oil难以混合的问题。。。
【在 D***o 的大作中提到】
: 拜大牛
: 介绍介绍经验吧，俺们学习学习
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t****y
发帖数: 3494 | 38 我可能也要做这个方向了，能介绍一下这个方向的前景吗?
department
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 牛人说不上。。这个职位也是我老板推荐的。。是从属于product quality department
: ，主要解决的pyrolysis oil里面太多水和于fossil oil难以混合的问题。。。
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i*******e
发帖数: 242 | 39 能谈谈Amyris and LS9到底trash在哪里吗
total
【在 z*h 的大作中提到】
: Energy application decides its production.
: Biofuels are used for transportation sector but not good for electricity
: generation or burning. Biomass may be the sole sustainable primary energy
: source for transportation sector. So it is why it is important to develop
: better biofuels. (Note: transportation fuels accounts for ~20 % of the total
: energy market based on BTU. In the USA, it is about ~30% of total market).
: Biofuels R&D is like dotcom. Most researches are trash, including famous
: Amyris and
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z*h
发帖数: 773 | 40 Why Amyris and LS9's microbial biofuels project are non-sense? Please see
the latest analysis about energy conversion efficiency analysis. The below
analysis will divide biofuels R&D. Some will support it greatly (for example
, Gevo, Mascoma, Qteros); the other side will be against it because they
will be driven out from this market eventually, for example, Amyris,LS9..
Huang WD, Zhang Y-HP. 2011. Analysis of biofuels production from sugar based
on three criteria: Thermodynamics, bioenergetics, and product separation
Energy Environ. Sci.
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2011/EE/C0EE00069H. |
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z*h
发帖数: 773 | 41 Another comments from a top Chinese scientist at Kior about Virent
Technology: based on mass balance, energy balance and feedstock prices and
product prices, the whole project cannot make money. |
v***n
发帖数: 123 | 42 More specifics? Researches on biofuels can be very theoretical like in
molecular level or application oriented like fuel processing. If you are
going to do biofuel processing,you will have pretty good chances getting a
job of fuel processing.
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: 最近在选老板
: 有一个project是做biofuel的，不知道这玩意做完了，就业前景怎么样
: 有没有可能进入oil industry，虽然这个project跟bp有点关系
: 还有个project是做granular flow
: 一头雾水，不知道怎么选择好
: 先谢过了
|
z****g
发帖数: 2497 | 43 最好不要做biofuel, 这个东西很大程度和政府的政策相关，
而政府的政策是随时变换的， 就这几年就有几个波浪了。。
如果career based在这个上面，风险太大。
当然，如果你喜欢take risk， 那是另一回事。
另外，biofuel和oil industry不算很近。大石油公司都有研究biofuel的，钱也会有，
但是如果出现
问题，资金紧张，先cut的肯定是biofuel。。
【在 t****y 的大作中提到】
: 最近在选老板
: 有一个project是做biofuel的，不知道这玩意做完了，就业前景怎么样
: 有没有可能进入oil industry，虽然这个project跟bp有点关系
: 还有个project是做granular flow
: 一头雾水，不知道怎么选择好
: 先谢过了
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z****g
发帖数: 2497 | 44 现在biofuel不是太少，是太多.
市场完全不能消化现在的产量，为啥，太贵了，卖不出去。没几个厂是全负荷开工的，
好多都是前几年疯的
时候建起来的。
biofuel的问题是价格完全不能和传统fuel比，biofuel的出路只能是寻求更低的成本的
工艺。
在成本降低之前，这些厂只能靠政府资助延续。最后的结局悲观一点，很可能就是被放
弃，或被取代。
at
.
【在 M******n 的大作中提到】
: I agree that 5% energy consumption SEEMS to be a large market.
: Now, the biofuel has about 11 billion gallons per year (>95% from food
: starch, e.g., corn). It was projected to grow to 36 billion gallons per
: year in 2025 (and food feedstock is about 15 billion). It seems to be a
: large number, however, it only accounts for 2.7% of petroleum consumption at
: current level (86 MMBOE/day, or 1320 billion gallons equivalent per year).
: By 2025, it was also projected that petroleum grow by 40-50% (e.g.,
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c*******f
发帖数: 1 | |
