b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 1 from CNBC
Chemical Engineers
Employed in U.S.: 31,700
Change expected in next decade: -2%
Average salary: $84,680
Demand for engineers overall is good, with some specialties expected to see
outstanding growth, but demand for chemical engineers, who work in the
manufacturing of chemicals and products such as gasoline, synthetic rubber,
plastics and cement, is expected to drop 2 percent in the next decade.
The biggest demand in engineering will be for biomedical engineers, with
projected growth of 72 percent over the next decade, as well as civil,
environmental engineers |
S********y
发帖数: 160 | 2 Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040 |
b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 3 Please DO NOT mislead people. Upstream company prefer to hire petrolem
eningeer, the hiring of process engineer with chemE background is limited,
and it does not change the dim outlook for chemical engineer.
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040
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S********y
发帖数: 160 | 4 what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by
learning tutorial procedures? |
S********y
发帖数: 160 | 5 what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by
learning tutorial procedures? |
k***i
发帖数: 662 | 6 know much about petroleum, geology, detection and recovery.
Not just operate machines
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by
: learning tutorial procedures?
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y*****a
发帖数: 580 | 7 regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know
of upstream.
(1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will
fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other
energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what
fashion?
(2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? -
- How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is
the upside and downside of the industry?
(3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
Will "hero to zero" scenario reappear like the 80s or early 2009? Which
factors keep oil price high? Which factors keep oil price low?
(4) Why young students hesitate in taking PE degrees compared with others?
Why the industry has a negative picture while it is a viable and profitable
industry and how to improve it (and did not lead the nations into recession
compared with banking)? Why the PE schools did not enroll thousands
students each (as they did in the late 70s)?
(5) Why will the upstream recruit ChE graduates, compared with PE students,
compared with Civil, Mechanical, ... students? There are more PE students (
PE students alone could have filled most, if not all, vacancies in the
industry at current level), and more selection from engineering and
scientific disciplines? Why ChE would have any marginal preference compared
with others?
(6) Will PE simply die and disappear after production is gone in say 200 yrs
or whatever the time frame? Where will it head to? Is it a sunset
discipline and a sunset industry?
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040
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b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 8 You are marvelous thinker, like Karl Max etc., always thinking about the
future of human being.
This board and my topic is too trivia for you indeed.
People like
know
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is
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know
: of upstream.
: (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will
: fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other
: energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what
: fashion?
: (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? -
: - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is
: the upside and downside of the industry?
: (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
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h***y
发帖数: 1657 | 9 我也很悲观。
see
,
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: from CNBC
: Chemical Engineers
: Employed in U.S.: 31,700
: Change expected in next decade: -2%
: Average salary: $84,680
: Demand for engineers overall is good, with some specialties expected to see
: outstanding growth, but demand for chemical engineers, who work in the
: manufacturing of chemicals and products such as gasoline, synthetic rubber,
: plastics and cement, is expected to drop 2 percent in the next decade.
: The biggest demand in engineering will be for biomedical engineers, with
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j******n
发帖数: 1727 | 10 regardless what you are saying, does "future" mean anything to you?
know
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is
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know
: of upstream.
: (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will
: fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other
: energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what
: fashion?
: (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? -
: - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is
: the upside and downside of the industry?
: (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
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J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 11 你悲观啥。。。加州过几年也开始 off-shore drilling，美金花花的
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 我也很悲观。
:
: see
: ,
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y*****a
发帖数: 580 | 12 This is not about future of human being.
The following question is related to the questions I am asking:
(1) If PE is well paid, is it worthwhile for ppl to switch into it?
(2) Is the career unstable (as in the past) or not?
(3) What you need to do now and in the nearest future to prevent loss of
employment happening or with the minimal impact?
(4) Whether you can be enrolled in PE schools if changing study now, or if
you can launch a job in the upstream?
I am talking about one's career path and preparation for it in the upstream.
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: You are marvelous thinker, like Karl Max etc., always thinking about the
: future of human being.
: This board and my topic is too trivia for you indeed.
: People like
:
: know
: -
: is
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b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 13 I guess that you know the answer, why not just tell us your opinion. PE is
very well paid and can be cyclical. We all know ChE is going downhill and
very little stability. Chemical industry is sunset industry in America
indeed. Petrolem engineer seems better than ChE.
Again, great thinker like yolanda is wastering his/her great talent to be
ChE or PE.ChE or PE is trivia major WSN struggle to make a living.
upstream.
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: This is not about future of human being.
: The following question is related to the questions I am asking:
: (1) If PE is well paid, is it worthwhile for ppl to switch into it?
: (2) Is the career unstable (as in the past) or not?
: (3) What you need to do now and in the nearest future to prevent loss of
: employment happening or with the minimal impact?
: (4) Whether you can be enrolled in PE schools if changing study now, or if
: you can launch a job in the upstream?
: I am talking about one's career path and preparation for it in the upstream.
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l****u
发帖数: 41 | 14 想问下那国内CheE的情况怎么样呢？因为打算毕业以后回国。
最近也在考虑继续申PhD，很看中CheE。。。 |
b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 15 Chemical industry is much healthier in China, which is booming indeed. Sorry
I do not know the job market for returnee Ph.Ds.
【在 l****u 的大作中提到】
: 想问下那国内CheE的情况怎么样呢？因为打算毕业以后回国。
: 最近也在考虑继续申PhD，很看中CheE。。。
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w*******4
发帖数: 361 | 16 PE工作时间太长了，撑死十几、二十几万美刀。
读完PhD果断回国。 |
j***i
发帖数: 4975 | 17 然后拿十几，二十几万RMB？ :P
【在 w*******4 的大作中提到】
: PE工作时间太长了，撑死十几、二十几万美刀。
: 读完PhD果断回国。
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j***i
发帖数: 4975 | 18 至少下个二三十年，传统能源领域应该不会有大问题
石油足够支撑到版上诸位的CAREER结束的了
know
-
is
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know
: of upstream.
: (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will
: fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other
: energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what
: fashion?
: (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? -
: - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is
: the upside and downside of the industry?
: (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
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b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 19 I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical
industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough
time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish.
Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where
are their employees?
【在 j***i 的大作中提到】
: 至少下个二三十年，传统能源领域应该不会有大问题
: 石油足够支撑到版上诸位的CAREER结束的了
:
: know
: -
: is
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S********y
发帖数: 160 | 20 Even if another downturn of oil industry comes within the next Decade,
Chemical engineering is the better choice because cheme skills are
transferable to oil, energy, pharmaceutical and semiconductor industries.
Yes, ARCO and MOBIl vanished. Yet, many of their employee are still working
for CHEVRON and EXXONMOBIL.
petrochemical
tough
Where
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical
: industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough
: time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish.
: Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where
: are their employees?
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b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 21 At the eve of New Year, I like your optimisium.
However,Athough I agree CHME skills is transferable to other area. how much
do you know about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry and job market
in America?
American media usually is rosy, I have to agree CNBC's projection about CHME
job prospects.
working
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: Even if another downturn of oil industry comes within the next Decade,
: Chemical engineering is the better choice because cheme skills are
: transferable to oil, energy, pharmaceutical and semiconductor industries.
: Yes, ARCO and MOBIl vanished. Yet, many of their employee are still working
: for CHEVRON and EXXONMOBIL.
:
: petrochemical
: tough
: Where
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S********y
发帖数: 160 | 22 you will know a lot about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry once you
are a qualified CHEMICAL ENGINEER. |
j***i
发帖数: 4975 | 23 我倒是第一次听别人说我GREEN
ARCO MOBIL没了,里边的人呢?还不是换家公司照样混得爽?
那些年的危机导致了石油能源领域的一个人才断档,要完全补好还得且等着呢
现在市场上什么人最多?正经搞传统大化工的又有几个?
petrochemical
tough
Where
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】
: I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical
: industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough
: time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish.
: Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where
: are their employees?
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b*******0
发帖数: 1695 | 24 Although you are right that chemical engineering knowledge is vital for semiconductor fabrication and drug manufacturing, you may not have updated knowledge about current job market for pharma and semiconductor industry. It is almost impossible for a chemical engineer who have worked in chemical industry extended time to change career in either pharma or semiconductor industry. It is always easy and cheap to train new graduates.
I wish that you are right and I am wrong, since I have extensive chemical enigneering training. However we do need face the reality, no matter it is rosy or grim.
You need to be aware that the post is refered from CNBC, not made up by me.
you
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】
: you will know a lot about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry once you
: are a qualified CHEMICAL ENGINEER.
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S********y
发帖数: 160 | 25 bigHead. thanks for reply. i guess you are wondering: assuming a chemical
engineer works in oil industry for too long, how easy to find a job in
parmaceutical or semiconductor industries?
Well,it should be case dependent. The only thing i know is that some skills
a chemecial engineer learned in oil industry, such as heat & mass & momentum
transfer modeling, particle flow, gridding,high performance computation
should be transferable to semiconductor and pharmaceutical industries. Of
course, a chemical engineer with upstream experiences are highly demanded in
oil industy and generally should not worry about a job.. |
