a*******t 发帖数: 867 | 1 需要测试一些溶液的ORP值。但数据一直不稳定。
我用同一种化合物配溶液,浓度由低到高,ORP的读数先是上升,在更高浓度是反而下
降。测他们的PH值,随浓度上升而增加。
用DI W 来测试, 用NAOH 和HCL 调节PH,在PH 上升时,ORP值迅速下降。
是不是ORP的读数和PH密切相关?
原来以为ORP读数更大程度上取决于溶液中化合物的性质和浓度,现在看来PH更重要。
但是调节PH如何影响溶液的氧化还原能力?
以前没用过ORP。请高手指点我哪里弄错了。谢谢 |
c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 2 高手原来竟也是同行
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 需要测试一些溶液的ORP值。但数据一直不稳定。 : 我用同一种化合物配溶液,浓度由低到高,ORP的读数先是上升,在更高浓度是反而下 : 降。测他们的PH值,随浓度上升而增加。 : 用DI W 来测试, 用NAOH 和HCL 调节PH,在PH 上升时,ORP值迅速下降。 : 是不是ORP的读数和PH密切相关? : 原来以为ORP读数更大程度上取决于溶液中化合物的性质和浓度,现在看来PH更重要。 : 但是调节PH如何影响溶液的氧化还原能力? : 以前没用过ORP。请高手指点我哪里弄错了。谢谢
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a***n 发帖数: 1500 | 3 wow!
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 高手原来竟也是同行
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a***n 发帖数: 1500 | 4 I assume O.R.P.= Oxidation Reduction Potential?
And yes, it is very much related to the pH of your solution.
Generally speaking, oxidation potential goes up when pH goes down (higher
concentration of H+), for most of the oxidizing reagents.
What are the compounds you tested?
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 需要测试一些溶液的ORP值。但数据一直不稳定。 : 我用同一种化合物配溶液,浓度由低到高,ORP的读数先是上升,在更高浓度是反而下 : 降。测他们的PH值,随浓度上升而增加。 : 用DI W 来测试, 用NAOH 和HCL 调节PH,在PH 上升时,ORP值迅速下降。 : 是不是ORP的读数和PH密切相关? : 原来以为ORP读数更大程度上取决于溶液中化合物的性质和浓度,现在看来PH更重要。 : 但是调节PH如何影响溶液的氧化还原能力? : 以前没用过ORP。请高手指点我哪里弄错了。谢谢
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a*******t 发帖数: 867 | 5
Thank you very much.
Yes, I also noticed similar trend with different compounds. One is
hypochlorite solution and another one is a pesticide formulation.
I guess this correlation between ORP and pH (H+) should be guided by some
equations, like Nernst equation? But I do not see the [H+] item in the
equation.
So I guess we have to adjust pH to the same level in order to use the ORP
reading as an indicator of concentration of one compound?
To 疯哥:
高手不敢当。现在棋力下降了。
我作的是环境工程,跟化学有关。但是我的化学基础显然还不够....
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I assume O.R.P.= Oxidation Reduction Potential? : And yes, it is very much related to the pH of your solution. : Generally speaking, oxidation potential goes up when pH goes down (higher : concentration of H+), for most of the oxidizing reagents. : What are the compounds you tested?
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a***n 发帖数: 1500 | 6 H+ & OH- are part of many (not all) ox/red reactions.
Hypochlorite becomes a stronger oxidizing reagent with higher [H+].
See the half reaction below:
ClO- + 2H+ + 2e -> Cl- + H2O
O.R.P. is directly related to the concentration of your compound of interest
and very likely [H+]/[OH-]. So yeah, the pH should be the same in your test
, assuming your compound of interest is neutral or near neutral.
higher
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Thank you very much. : Yes, I also noticed similar trend with different compounds. One is : hypochlorite solution and another one is a pesticide formulation. : I guess this correlation between ORP and pH (H+) should be guided by some : equations, like Nernst equation? But I do not see the [H+] item in the : equation. : So I guess we have to adjust pH to the same level in order to use the ORP : reading as an indicator of concentration of one compound? : To 疯哥:
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a*******t 发帖数: 867 | 7
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test
Thank you!
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : H+ & OH- are part of many (not all) ox/red reactions. : Hypochlorite becomes a stronger oxidizing reagent with higher [H+]. : See the half reaction below: : ClO- + 2H+ + 2e -> Cl- + H2O : O.R.P. is directly related to the concentration of your compound of interest : and very likely [H+]/[OH-]. So yeah, the pH should be the same in your test : , assuming your compound of interest is neutral or near neutral. : : higher
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