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Chemistry版 - 刚上网的一篇acs的期刊论文,造假造的太水
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h***n
发帖数: 16
1
刚上网的一篇acs的期刊论文,造假造的太水,估计国外这个兄弟以后学术界没法生存
了,科研还是需要求真和踏实工作呀~
最近刚上网的一篇美国化学会上面的一篇paper,如果你看他的支持信息,学生把自己
和老师都坑了,但是最重要的是科学态度很恶劣,大家引以为戒吧~~~:) 有感触的
就把文章顶起吧~
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/om4000067
It is in the supporting information...page12~
下面的内容直接在他们的上网文章中出现~~~
PS:
Emma, please insert NMR data here! where are they? and for this compound,
just make up an elemental analysis...
J******n
发帖数: 1453
2
这个明显是学生要搞老板
跟老板有仇的可以学一下
h******g
发帖数: 600
3
这种不付原始报告的,reviewer应该要求在SI中加入原始报告。

【在 h***n 的大作中提到】
: 刚上网的一篇acs的期刊论文,造假造的太水,估计国外这个兄弟以后学术界没法生存
: 了,科研还是需要求真和踏实工作呀~
: 最近刚上网的一篇美国化学会上面的一篇paper,如果你看他的支持信息,学生把自己
: 和老师都坑了,但是最重要的是科学态度很恶劣,大家引以为戒吧~~~:) 有感触的
: 就把文章顶起吧~
: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/om4000067
: It is in the supporting information...page12~
: 下面的内容直接在他们的上网文章中出现~~~
: PS:
: Emma, please insert NMR data here! where are they? and for this compound,

m***c
发帖数: 1403
4
make up这里可能指补一个数据的意思,不是make it up. 不过这个作者也太粗心了。

【在 h***n 的大作中提到】
: 刚上网的一篇acs的期刊论文,造假造的太水,估计国外这个兄弟以后学术界没法生存
: 了,科研还是需要求真和踏实工作呀~
: 最近刚上网的一篇美国化学会上面的一篇paper,如果你看他的支持信息,学生把自己
: 和老师都坑了,但是最重要的是科学态度很恶劣,大家引以为戒吧~~~:) 有感触的
: 就把文章顶起吧~
: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/om4000067
: It is in the supporting information...page12~
: 下面的内容直接在他们的上网文章中出现~~~
: PS:
: Emma, please insert NMR data here! where are they? and for this compound,

I***A
发帖数: 444
5
这要看看怎么理解make up的意思了
h*********i
发帖数: 494
6
it's funny
L**i
发帖数: 22365
7
make up的意思很微妙
b**4
发帖数: 36
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靠, 那么多作者, 竟没有一个银在发表之前读一边? 就一边?
m****c
发帖数: 2416
9
他们组发文太多了吧,多到作者都不屑于一篇organometallics了吧...

【在 b**4 的大作中提到】
: 靠, 那么多作者, 竟没有一个银在发表之前读一边? 就一边?
t*k
发帖数: 53
10
还要怎么理解?原文是"just make up an ...", 不是"make up the ...".

【在 I***A 的大作中提到】
: 这要看看怎么理解make up的意思了
y***n
发帖数: 3
11
唉, 一个 "an", 把老板给活活暴露了!
发信人: tak (tak), 信区: Chemistry
标 题: Re: 刚上网的一篇acs的期刊论文,造假造的太水
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 14 15:22:28 2013, 美东)
还要怎么理解?原文是"just make up an ...", 不是"make up the ...".
b**4
发帖数: 36
12
看, 尾巴露出来了.....
Letter from the Editor and Chief of Organometallics
Dear Friends of Organometallics,
Chemical Abstracts alerted us to the statement you mention,which was
overlooked during the peer review process, on Monday 05 August. At that time
, the manuscript was pulled from the print publication queue. The author has
explained to us that the statement pertains to a compound that was ”
downgraded” from something being isolated to a proposed intermediate. Hence
, we have left the ASAP manuscript on the web for now. We are requiring that
the author submit originals of the microanalysis data before putting the
manuscript back in the print publication queue. Many readers have commented
that the statement reflects poorly on the moral or ethical character of the
author, but the broad “retribution” that some would seek is not our
purview. As Editors, our “powers” are limited to appropriate precautionary
measures involving future submissions by such authors to Organometallics,
the details of which would be confidential (ACS Ethical Guidelines, http://pubs.acs.org/page/policy/ethics/index.html). Our decision to keep the supporting information on the web, at least for the time being, is one of transparency and honesty toward the chemical community. Other stakeholders can contemplate a fuller range of responses. Some unedited opinions from the community are available in the comments section of a blog posting: http://blog.chembark.com/2013/08/06/a-disturbing-note-in-a-recent-si-file/#comments
If you have any criticisms of the actions described above, please do not
hesitate to share them with me. Thanks much for being a reader of
Organometallics, and best wishes,
John Gladysz
Editor--in-‐Chief
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Reto Dorta allegedly responds by email to Sufi.
Dear Sufi,
Thank you for your e-mail.
Compound 14 in the SI is an intermediate and has not been fully
characterized, hence does not have a number in the manuscript. Wording and
numbering of the compounds in the supporting information are wrong (on
different levels!). Characterized compound 14 and 15a-c of the article
correspond to compounds 154, 165a, 165b and 165c of the supporting info.
Anything else is being dealt with by the editors of the journal as we speak.
Best regards
Reto Dorta
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John Gladysz, Chief Editor of Organometallics, leaves a very detailed
response on Paul’s blog.
这主编就是泡 XXX, 唉....
...
In summary, it is necessary to look at error introduction from a number of
perspectives, and it may be difficult for “younger” authors with less
publishing experience to view things from the inside. I’ll eagerly “steal
” any substantive additions that anyone offers if I ever have to present
this analysis again, or incorporate it into a future Editor’s Page of
Organometallics.
...
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