D********e 发帖数: 665 | 1 看看下面的转贴里,关于白血球青霉素用量死亡率等等的数据,对吗?
ZT:
小弟所好很杂,对医学理解不多。但在我看来,走到末路的恐怕是现在辉煌灿烂的西医
。。。。。转前些日子看了一本书:王佑三先生所著的《明天的医学向何处去 ——我
的平衡医学观》,大有相见恨晚之感。这位医学狂人(请见谅)说出了我自己一些处于
朦胧状态的试想。文中闪亮的观点,精辟独到的见解让我相信,它象征着新医学的曙光
!!!
人类近万年的文明史创造了灿烂的现代医学(主要是说西医),但他已经没有任何
的出路的。不管再出现的什么病的特殊疗法或是药物,西医都不能摆脱一个模式:那就
是过分关注具体而忽略了整体。它基本上是绕过人体免疫器官去直接通病原体作战。结
果病原体在超强度的训练中日益凶猛,人体免疫系统在无所事事中日渐衰弱。免疫能力
水平与病毒菌株变异间的“水位差”越来越大,这是一个极危险的情况。现代人的体制
日益下降,20世纪初,人的白血球正常值为8000-10000,后来逐步下降。50年代是6000
,70年代是4000,到90年代只有3000多了。耐药菌株却发展迅速,连大肠杆菌和痢疾杆
菌这张普通病菌也有了耐药菌株,抗生素 |
g*****j 发帖数: 1211 | 2 I once had a similar struggle. In a way, medicine is a force against
evolution, which aims at eliminating those do not fit. But the ethical
dilemma is that if you had a child carrying a genetic mutation causing
diabetes, would you want him to live with the help of medicine or would
rather he die for the sake of proper human evolution? It took me a long
time to figure out that medicine shall not be a force to facilitate
natural evolution. We shall simply admit that it is just another part
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n*********n 发帖数: 1534 | 3 英语真好,emmmm
I once had a similar struggle. In a way, medicine is a force against
evolution, which aims at eliminating those do not fit. But the ethical
dilemma is that if you had a child carrying a genetic mutation causing
diabetes, would you want him to live with the help of medicine or would
rather he die for the sake of proper human evolution? It took me a long
time to figure out that medicine shall not be a force to facilitate
natural evolution. We shall simply admit that it is just anothe
【在 g*****j 的大作中提到】 : I once had a similar struggle. In a way, medicine is a force against : evolution, which aims at eliminating those do not fit. But the ethical : dilemma is that if you had a child carrying a genetic mutation causing : diabetes, would you want him to live with the help of medicine or would : rather he die for the sake of proper human evolution? It took me a long : time to figure out that medicine shall not be a force to facilitate : natural evolution. We shall simply admit that it is just another part : of hu
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f******r 发帖数: 55 | |
m*****n 发帖数: 3575 | 5 第一句就一个语法错误,你老鉴赏力还是不够啊。
【在 n*********n 的大作中提到】 : 英语真好,emmmm : : I once had a similar struggle. In a way, medicine is a force against : evolution, which aims at eliminating those do not fit. But the ethical : dilemma is that if you had a child carrying a genetic mutation causing : diabetes, would you want him to live with the help of medicine or would : rather he die for the sake of proper human evolution? It took me a long : time to figure out that medicine shall not be a force to facilitate : natural evolution. We shall simply admit that it is just anothe
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t*******d 发帖数: 2570 | 6 这个人的数据有问题,网上随便查一查就知道现在白细胞测量的正常的白细胞范围是
4500 - 10000。那他那个七十年代是4000,九十年代的正常值是3000就是在瞎掰。
【在 D********e 的大作中提到】 : 看看下面的转贴里,关于白血球青霉素用量死亡率等等的数据,对吗? : ZT: : 小弟所好很杂,对医学理解不多。但在我看来,走到末路的恐怕是现在辉煌灿烂的西医 : 。。。。。转前些日子看了一本书:王佑三先生所著的《明天的医学向何处去 ——我 : 的平衡医学观》,大有相见恨晚之感。这位医学狂人(请见谅)说出了我自己一些处于 : 朦胧状态的试想。文中闪亮的观点,精辟独到的见解让我相信,它象征着新医学的曙光 : !!! : 人类近万年的文明史创造了灿烂的现代医学(主要是说西医),但他已经没有任何 : 的出路的。不管再出现的什么病的特殊疗法或是药物,西医都不能摆脱一个模式:那就 : 是过分关注具体而忽略了整体。它基本上是绕过人体免疫器官去直接通病原体作战。结
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n*********n 发帖数: 1534 | 7 不敢称老,不敢不敢
第一句就一个语法错误,你老鉴赏力还是不够啊。
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】 : 第一句就一个语法错误,你老鉴赏力还是不够啊。
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f******r 发帖数: 55 | 8 数据的确有问题,非常不严谨。但是里面说的一些事实的确存在,像越来越多的耐药株
的出现,现代人免疫力减弱等,这里面的原因很多,西药特别是抗生素有着直接的关系
。不过么,抗生素带来的优点也是显而易见的,它挽救了很多人的性命。毕竟这个世界
上的神医很少,要让普通人也能够治愈疾病,简单易学的西医(相对于中医来说)就是
一个很好的选择。中医,个人觉得是种精英学问,不是那么容易被普通人掌握的,毕竟
作为一门整体学科,它需要太多的知识积累和一种叫做悟性的东西。中西医的争论,其
实也是东西方文化的争论,是东西方哲学对事物不同观察点的争论,无所谓对错,只有
是否适合,就像当年的宏观物理和微观物理一样,是对事物的不同认识方法。 |
g*****j 发帖数: 1211 | 9 There are a couple misnomers that require clarification:
1) A drug-resistant strain of bacteria is simply drug-resistent -
doesn't mean it is more purulent. It is a legitimate fear that someday
a strain of bacteria may emerge that no antibiotics can kill it.
However, no such bacteria have emerged yet because we have developed
more than a dozen classes of antibiotics, including hundreds of drugs in
a mere 70 years. But even such a day does come, it simply brings us
back to the pre-antibiotics
【在 f******r 的大作中提到】 : 数据的确有问题,非常不严谨。但是里面说的一些事实的确存在,像越来越多的耐药株 : 的出现,现代人免疫力减弱等,这里面的原因很多,西药特别是抗生素有着直接的关系 : 。不过么,抗生素带来的优点也是显而易见的,它挽救了很多人的性命。毕竟这个世界 : 上的神医很少,要让普通人也能够治愈疾病,简单易学的西医(相对于中医来说)就是 : 一个很好的选择。中医,个人觉得是种精英学问,不是那么容易被普通人掌握的,毕竟 : 作为一门整体学科,它需要太多的知识积累和一种叫做悟性的东西。中西医的争论,其 : 实也是东西方文化的争论,是东西方哲学对事物不同观察点的争论,无所谓对错,只有 : 是否适合,就像当年的宏观物理和微观物理一样,是对事物的不同认识方法。
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n*********n 发帖数: 1534 | 10 对了,那个超级耐药的金黄色葡萄球菌算不算?
There are a couple misnomers that require clarification:
1) A drug-resistant strain of bacteria is simply drug-resistent -
doesn't mean it is more purulent. It is a legitimate fear that someday
a strain of bacteria may emerge that no antibiotics can kill it.
However, no such bacteria have emerged yet because we have developed
more than a dozen classes of antibiotics, including hundreds of drugs in
a mere 70 years. But even such a day does come, it simply brings us
back
【在 g*****j 的大作中提到】 : There are a couple misnomers that require clarification: : 1) A drug-resistant strain of bacteria is simply drug-resistent - : doesn't mean it is more purulent. It is a legitimate fear that someday : a strain of bacteria may emerge that no antibiotics can kill it. : However, no such bacteria have emerged yet because we have developed : more than a dozen classes of antibiotics, including hundreds of drugs in : a mere 70 years. But even such a day does come, it simply brings us : back to the pre-antibiotics
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g*****j 发帖数: 1211 | 11 MRSA - methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus
It is resistant to most beta-lactam class of antibiotics. There are still
several antibiotics we can use to kill it.
【在 n*********n 的大作中提到】 : 对了,那个超级耐药的金黄色葡萄球菌算不算? : : There are a couple misnomers that require clarification: : 1) A drug-resistant strain of bacteria is simply drug-resistent - : doesn't mean it is more purulent. It is a legitimate fear that someday : a strain of bacteria may emerge that no antibiotics can kill it. : However, no such bacteria have emerged yet because we have developed : more than a dozen classes of antibiotics, including hundreds of drugs in : a mere 70 years. But even such a day does come, it simply brings us : back
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t*n 发帖数: 14458 | 12 好几个人都跟我说过打了青霉素之后舌头对味道的敏感会降低
做菜的时候老觉得淡
数据的确有问题,非常不严谨。但是里面说的一些事实的确存在,像越来越多的耐药株
的出现,现代人免疫力减弱等,这里面的原因很多,西药特别是抗生素有着直接的关系
。不过么,抗生素带来的优点也是显而易见的,它挽救了很多人的性命。毕竟这个世界
上的神医很少,要让普通人也能够治愈疾病,简单易学的西医(相对于中医来说)就是
一个很好的选择。中医,个人觉得是种精英学问,不是那么容易被普通人掌握的,毕竟
作为一门整体学科,它需要太多的知识积累和一种叫做悟性的东西。中西医的争论,其
实也是东西方文化的争论,是东西方哲学对事物不同观察点的争论,无所谓对错,只有
是否适合,就像当年的宏观物理和微观物理一样,是对事物的不同认识方法。
【在 f******r 的大作中提到】 : 数据的确有问题,非常不严谨。但是里面说的一些事实的确存在,像越来越多的耐药株 : 的出现,现代人免疫力减弱等,这里面的原因很多,西药特别是抗生素有着直接的关系 : 。不过么,抗生素带来的优点也是显而易见的,它挽救了很多人的性命。毕竟这个世界 : 上的神医很少,要让普通人也能够治愈疾病,简单易学的西医(相对于中医来说)就是 : 一个很好的选择。中医,个人觉得是种精英学问,不是那么容易被普通人掌握的,毕竟 : 作为一门整体学科,它需要太多的知识积累和一种叫做悟性的东西。中西医的争论,其 : 实也是东西方文化的争论,是东西方哲学对事物不同观察点的争论,无所谓对错,只有 : 是否适合,就像当年的宏观物理和微观物理一样,是对事物的不同认识方法。
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