w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 1 这次全程接近 52英里， 爬升 6130英尺， 其中5000英尺在Mt Baldy的12.4英里的路上
完成的。
几乎一年没有recreational ride了，就是连commute也是屈指可数的几次。这次看环法
自行车赛，突然心血来潮就决定今天去骑车了。
昨天跑完tempo以后，曾经稀里糊涂做了很久的hamstring weight training, 结果今天
早上大腿后面还是很酸，也没管它，就开始准备自行车和装备到了10点多，喝了一碗麦
片粥，就出发了。临出发看天气预报，似乎不热，89度，就托大只带了两瓶水,一个半升，一个0.6升。
从家里去秃头山的路从来就没有找到合适的路程，我这次走了新的路线，结果稀里糊涂
进入了 Claremont Colleges (好像有五个学校在一起）的校园，等到我走出这个大迷
宫，发现我已经进入另一个city了。
掉头回去以后，我今天的ride就名副其实成为 half century ride 了。
进入Mt Baldy Road的第一段，还没有开始陡坡的这一段热身，过去几次我都是最大档
毫不费力就上去，这次居然觉得有点累了，心里就知道这次会非常累 | l******n
发帖数: 97 | 2 老狼你太猛了，那个据说比较bt的ride around bear的century全程的eg比你这个多的
也有限
半升，一个0.6升。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 这次全程接近 52英里， 爬升 6130英尺， 其中5000英尺在Mt Baldy的12.4英里的路上
: 完成的。
: 几乎一年没有recreational ride了，就是连commute也是屈指可数的几次。这次看环法
: 自行车赛，突然心血来潮就决定今天去骑车了。
: 昨天跑完tempo以后，曾经稀里糊涂做了很久的hamstring weight training, 结果今天
: 早上大腿后面还是很酸，也没管它，就开始准备自行车和装备到了10点多，喝了一碗麦
: 片粥，就出发了。临出发看天气预报，似乎不热，89度，就托大只带了两瓶水,一个半升，一个0.6升。
: 从家里去秃头山的路从来就没有找到合适的路程，我这次走了新的路线，结果稀里糊涂
: 进入了 Claremont Colleges (好像有五个学校在一起）的校园，等到我走出这个大迷
: 宫，发现我已经进入另一个city了。
| s*****2
发帖数: 472 | 3 Nice! Bike commute is really the best way training. Two bars for 6k is
marginal.
半升，一个0.6升。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 这次全程接近 52英里， 爬升 6130英尺， 其中5000英尺在Mt Baldy的12.4英里的路上
: 完成的。
: 几乎一年没有recreational ride了，就是连commute也是屈指可数的几次。这次看环法
: 自行车赛，突然心血来潮就决定今天去骑车了。
: 昨天跑完tempo以后，曾经稀里糊涂做了很久的hamstring weight training, 结果今天
: 早上大腿后面还是很酸，也没管它，就开始准备自行车和装备到了10点多，喝了一碗麦
: 片粥，就出发了。临出发看天气预报，似乎不热，89度，就托大只带了两瓶水,一个半升，一个0.6升。
: 从家里去秃头山的路从来就没有找到合适的路程，我这次走了新的路线，结果稀里糊涂
: 进入了 Claremont Colleges (好像有五个学校在一起）的校园，等到我走出这个大迷
: 宫，发现我已经进入另一个city了。
| w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 4 我比较孤陋寡闻，都没听说过 ride around bear， will google it
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 老狼你太猛了，那个据说比较bt的ride around bear的century全程的eg比你这个多的
: 也有限
:
: 半升，一个0.6升。
| w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 5 exactly, last year I was commuting a lot and my ride onto mt badly was
really easy
【在 s*****2 的大作中提到】
: Nice! Bike commute is really the best way training. Two bars for 6k is
: marginal.
:
: 半升，一个0.6升。
| V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 6 I disagree. commuting for training is tricky at best. I simply haven't had
the discipline to ride easy or hard enough to take the advantage of my
commuting yet. Instead, I get tired from my commuting that I haven't been
able to get the most out of my hammer group rides.
【在 s*****2 的大作中提到】
: Nice! Bike commute is really the best way training. Two bars for 6k is
: marginal.
:
: 半升，一个0.6升。
| J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 7 似乎很不错，不过也许食物带少了些。一般我出行要带足够的bar，还有现金/驾照/信
用卡...保命要紧。
老三后来把水袋要回来没有？ | J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 8 这要看个人的基础如何了，象我这种入门级的，感觉commuting ride很有用，至少能保
持体力在一个比较ready的水平。
象比较advanced的，也许commuting的强度就差了些。
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. commuting for training is tricky at best. I simply haven't had
: the discipline to ride easy or hard enough to take the advantage of my
: commuting yet. Instead, I get tired from my commuting that I haven't been
: able to get the most out of my hammer group rides.
| w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 9 当然，水袋打折以后三十多刀呢
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 似乎很不错，不过也许食物带少了些。一般我出行要带足够的bar，还有现金/驾照/信
: 用卡...保命要紧。
: 老三后来把水袋要回来没有？
| w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 10 unless you are training everyday, it's hard to beat commuting in term of
frequency and time.
Commutings are not created equal, in my case, I have 33 mile, a big climb,
and a few miles of really good bike lane that I usually ride at my utmost
speed.
Of course, i don't have a club or riding team to ride with, and I don't have
a race goal, so commuting is the best training for me, in fact, the only
training for me.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. commuting for training is tricky at best. I simply haven't had
: the discipline to ride easy or hard enough to take the advantage of my
: commuting yet. Instead, I get tired from my commuting that I haven't been
: able to get the most out of my hammer group rides.
| | | s*****2
发帖数: 472 | 11 I agree that not all commute routes are created equal. Lucky are those with
good choices. But creative thinking may improve the quality of ride for the
rest. Ride to work builds a great training foundation. It blends well with
our busy schedule.
I would think it would help the group rides in the long run.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. commuting for training is tricky at best. I simply haven't had
: the discipline to ride easy or hard enough to take the advantage of my
: commuting yet. Instead, I get tired from my commuting that I haven't been
: able to get the most out of my hammer group rides.
| w*****h
发帖数: 1770 | 12 indeed, the first work out after a long time lay-off is always tough. 停跑
了一个月， 第一次跑个9迈， 把我累残了。 | V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 13 let me clarify this, if commuting is the most you can do for training, by
all means do it. it's part of my training as well. all I am saying is that
don't think commuting is the best way to train when you have other options.
and for folks like me with 30+ miles of commuting everyday, the improvements
you can make off commuting is most likely small compared to real training (
group) ride. The reason is most people are not disciplined enough to train
effectively through commuting. your intensity i | w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 14 you are right, in cycling, I am still like what I was in running before I
race. That's why I said unless you have a race goal.
When I trained for my marathon, I have speed work, such as interval, tempo,
mile repeat, and fartlek, I also have long run, recovery run, and easy run,
each serves different purpose.
In cycling, you have one more aspect, that is the teamwork. I believe if I
want to race, or become so-call cat 2, cat 3 (I still don't know exactly
what it means), I will have to do specific
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: let me clarify this, if commuting is the most you can do for training, by
: all means do it. it's part of my training as well. all I am saying is that
: don't think commuting is the best way to train when you have other options.
: and for folks like me with 30+ miles of commuting everyday, the improvements
: you can make off commuting is most likely small compared to real training (
: group) ride. The reason is most people are not disciplined enough to train
: effectively through commuting. your intensity i
| V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 15 hehe, you totally misunderstood me. there is no teamwork. the group rides I
am talking about are somewhat like races, just no cost and no award money.
There are attacks and chases (some rides only allow them at specific places
and then regroup), the whole 9 yards. You are comparing yourself with the
bunch in every ride. racing is the best training. Hammer (training) rides
are next to racing (almost as dangerous as well)...
,
,
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: you are right, in cycling, I am still like what I was in running before I
: race. That's why I said unless you have a race goal.
: When I trained for my marathon, I have speed work, such as interval, tempo,
: mile repeat, and fartlek, I also have long run, recovery run, and easy run,
: each serves different purpose.
: In cycling, you have one more aspect, that is the teamwork. I believe if I
: want to race, or become so-call cat 2, cat 3 (I still don't know exactly
: what it means), I will have to do specific
| w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 16 i c, good to learn this
I
places
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: hehe, you totally misunderstood me. there is no teamwork. the group rides I
: am talking about are somewhat like races, just no cost and no award money.
: There are attacks and chases (some rides only allow them at specific places
: and then regroup), the whole 9 yards. You are comparing yourself with the
: bunch in every ride. racing is the best training. Hammer (training) rides
: are next to racing (almost as dangerous as well)...
:
: ,
: ,
| V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 17 well, I will write more about group rides and different groups. But I can
tell you this now: the group Jerry is riding with averaging 20mph is a lot
more dangerous than the group I am riding with that is quite a bit faster. | J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 18 How so? Please tell me more so that I can decide if I should avoid them or
pay attention on something specific.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: well, I will write more about group rides and different groups. But I can
: tell you this now: the group Jerry is riding with averaging 20mph is a lot
: more dangerous than the group I am riding with that is quite a bit faster.
| V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 19 you will just have to live with it for now. you, being a rookie, riding in
the back with a bunch of other rookies, recipe for crash. just pay a lot of
attention. you know yourself crashing is no fun.
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: How so? Please tell me more so that I can decide if I should avoid them or
: pay attention on something specific.
| b**k
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