h******2 发帖数: 1498 | |
w*****h 发帖数: 1770 | 2 yes, this guy is really outstanding. |
w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 3 I admire his mental toughness and love (or craziness) for running
I simply can't do something like this |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 4 what's the big deal? that's like a what, 200k ride? (with some speed, of
course. because you can finish a 200k easily if you ride slow)
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Running/31214185.html
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 6 what is ws100?
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个ws100我在户外版推荐过,没人搭理
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m***h 发帖数: 23691 | 7 你就装吧,我前不久刚在户外推荐的
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what is ws100?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 8 running is quite different, because you can't coast, wiggle, stretch, or
recover, especially when you're tired -- as long as you're running, your
heart rate is pumped up.
and running puts a lot more stress on the joints and ligament for that kind
of distance.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's the big deal? that's like a what, 200k ride? (with some speed, of : course. because you can finish a 200k easily if you ride slow)
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 9 Pain wise, yes, running is harder. ability wise, not really. Think about
your 10-mile TT. Then think about a tt century. same, you settle in a pace
and towards the end you hold on to your dear life. there is no time to coast
, wiggle, stretch, or recover! If you are riding with a really strong group,
sometimes not even time to drink.
tired -- as long as you're running, your
kind
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : running is quite different, because you can't coast, wiggle, stretch, or : recover, especially when you're tired -- as long as you're running, your : heart rate is pumped up. : and running puts a lot more stress on the joints and ligament for that kind : of distance.
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 10 still, the physical impact (shock from each step) to the body during a
30mile run is far greater than a century. also, with proper pedaling
technique, the stress on the muscle for cycling is way smaller than running,
because both legs are used during the entire turn of the crank. for
running you can only use the leg for a split second when the foot is in
contact with the ground, which is probably less 30% of the time.
i bet everyone on this board can do a century, but not everyone can run a 3
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Pain wise, yes, running is harder. ability wise, not really. Think about : your 10-mile TT. Then think about a tt century. same, you settle in a pace : and towards the end you hold on to your dear life. there is no time to coast : , wiggle, stretch, or recover! If you are riding with a really strong group, : sometimes not even time to drink. : : tired -- as long as you're running, your : kind
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 11 it's a lot harder than a 200k ride. I can ride 200k slowly pretty much
effortlessly. I haven't yet done any long run > 15 miles. Not to mention I
run more than I ride, time wise.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's the big deal? that's like a what, 200k ride? (with some speed, of : course. because you can finish a 200k easily if you ride slow)
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 12 running a 33 mile is probably not a big deal though most ppl never do that,
but the fact he ran for the whole night solo on a whim is another story.
I wont do that, safety aside, the sleepless run is just crazy.
I know in cycling there is also ultra ride, i admire in the same fashion
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's the big deal? that's like a what, 200k ride? (with some speed, of : course. because you can finish a 200k easily if you ride slow)
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 13 Sure, a 33-miles is pretty hard. but I just don't think this is such a big
deal. I almost felt that the amazing things people on this board did was
discounted. Trust me, the death ride reflects greater athletic ability than
some 33 mile run. and a 33 miles run is nothing compared to PBP (not to
mention GRR someone, you know who, is doing now), or an ironman.
This would be something that I truly admire. I used to ride with a old man
who had done it twice and finished in Kona twice.
http://en.wiki |
b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 14 王欢喜当然牛了
浑身上下没一丝肥肉
不过听说他老婆更牛
憧憬中。。 |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 15 I understand your passion about riding, but trust me, a 33 miler without
sleep is a big deal. Of course you can't compare it with an ironman. But
death ride, I'm not sure about that. I'd take the challenge of death ride
with a month or two's training, since I am never afraid of elevation gain.
Running a 33 miler without injury, I don't think I can do it, at least not
yet.
than
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Sure, a 33-miles is pretty hard. but I just don't think this is such a big : deal. I almost felt that the amazing things people on this board did was : discounted. Trust me, the death ride reflects greater athletic ability than : some 33 mile run. and a 33 miles run is nothing compared to PBP (not to : mention GRR someone, you know who, is doing now), or an ironman. : This would be something that I truly admire. I used to ride with a old man : who had done it twice and finished in Kona twice. : http://en.wiki
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 16 I guess my bigger point is this. he posted an interesting story that he was
inspired by a runner and did something that's truly something spontaneous
and usual. I think he carried the idea of spontaneity a little too far. but
like I said, the story is entertaining to read, which I believe is all that
he had wanted. He wanted to share his inspiration of running for fun, be
wild and free.
But I think our discuss took it the wrong way. Henmei said he is NIU. and I
didn't think it was a big deal in
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I understand your passion about riding, but trust me, a 33 miler without : sleep is a big deal. Of course you can't compare it with an ironman. But : death ride, I'm not sure about that. I'd take the challenge of death ride : with a month or two's training, since I am never afraid of elevation gain. : Running a 33 miler without injury, I don't think I can do it, at least not : yet. : : than
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 17 I guess it's more inspirational if it's a story from someone you have a
personal touch. I truely admire what Lance achieved, but it's way beyond
what I can possibly perceive. On the other hand, stories from ordinary
people like myself have much more impact on me. It's not Ed Viesturs nor Sir
Ed Hillary who inspired me climbing mountains, but rather people around who
would not be regarded as strong climbers by any standard that gave me the
most motivation.
And for a wild soul like myself (at leas
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess my bigger point is this. he posted an interesting story that he was : inspired by a runner and did something that's truly something spontaneous : and usual. I think he carried the idea of spontaneity a little too far. but : like I said, the story is entertaining to read, which I believe is all that : he had wanted. He wanted to share his inspiration of running for fun, be : wild and free. : But I think our discuss took it the wrong way. Henmei said he is NIU. and I : didn't think it was a big deal in
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 18 hehe dude, i have so far met only one chinese guy (from taiwan) who did a
full ironman, and I haven't met any tri folks from the mainland here. i
think there are actually more ironman triathletes in mainland china.
the original poster of that article on the running board is a NIU to begin
with. he is a regular marathoner and has qualified for Boston marathon (BQ)
several times (biok?). (BQ is like qualifying for Kona -- it takes a lot of
discipline with a very regimented training plan).
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 19 i am guessing his wife is not chinese? (no offense, ladies)
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 王欢喜当然牛了 : 浑身上下没一丝肥肉 : 不过听说他老婆更牛 : 憧憬中。。
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 20 too bad there are not a good comparison in cycling for level of fitness. So
you think BQ will be something like Cat3?
)
of
seriously
miles)
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hehe dude, i have so far met only one chinese guy (from taiwan) who did a : full ironman, and I haven't met any tri folks from the mainland here. i : think there are actually more ironman triathletes in mainland china. : the original poster of that article on the running board is a NIU to begin : with. he is a regular marathoner and has qualified for Boston marathon (BQ) : several times (biok?). (BQ is like qualifying for Kona -- it takes a lot of : discipline with a very regimented training plan). : it's
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 21 plus, I feel cycling is somewhat discredited since you can cover some
distance fairly easily. But cycling at a competitive level is as intense as
it gets...
and I agree, Lance is only partial inspirational. to me, the greatest
inspiration is my vengeance, everyone who had dropped me must pay!...
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 22 it's a different system. for BQ, it doesn't matter how many races you have
done or what your ranks are in those races, you just need to beat a certain
finish time.
So
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : too bad there are not a good comparison in cycling for level of fitness. So : you think BQ will be something like Cat3? : : ) : of : seriously : miles)
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 23 I totally agree with you on that cycling is somewhat discredited for that
reason.
as
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : plus, I feel cycling is somewhat discredited since you can cover some : distance fairly easily. But cycling at a competitive level is as intense as : it gets... : and I agree, Lance is only partial inspirational. to me, the greatest : inspiration is my vengeance, everyone who had dropped me must pay!... : wahahahaha, wahahahaha
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 24 not quite comparable. BQ is more like a 80-mile TT @23mph, no drafting.
but, on a bike ride, i can easily drop a co-worker who's BQed (she weighs
105 lb though).
So
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : too bad there are not a good comparison in cycling for level of fitness. So : you think BQ will be something like Cat3? : : ) : of : seriously : miles)
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 25 Victoon may have higher standard for Niu
But just remember Niu is already widely used to make comments to everyday
folks here.
Almost everyone in running board is called Niu somehow by someone, but by no
means we are comparing ourselves to elite amateur, let alone pro. |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 26 due to its pack style racing, bike racing provides something very few other
sports can provide -- the strategy and tactics, on top of the speed. most
people race, not only because they want to win, but also because they simply
enjoy racing. it's like video games -- you get hooked on playing.
the closest non-motor sport to bike racing is short track speedskating and
inline skate races.
as
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : plus, I feel cycling is somewhat discredited since you can cover some : distance fairly easily. But cycling at a competitive level is as intense as : it gets... : and I agree, Lance is only partial inspirational. to me, the greatest : inspiration is my vengeance, everyone who had dropped me must pay!... : wahahahaha, wahahahaha
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 27
other
short track skating?
simply
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : due to its pack style racing, bike racing provides something very few other : sports can provide -- the strategy and tactics, on top of the speed. most : people race, not only because they want to win, but also because they simply : enjoy racing. it's like video games -- you get hooked on playing. : the closest non-motor sport to bike racing is short track speedskating and : inline skate races. : : as
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 28 oops
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : other : short track skating? : simply
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 29 not sure.
more likely chinese (he once mentioned his wife used to be a bully in middle
school)
AND there is offense too, hengheng
as a chinese woman from mainland I feel like as if hurt badly
55~~~
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i am guessing his wife is not chinese? (no offense, ladies)
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 30 but of course you're the exception, not the rule.
middle
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not sure. : more likely chinese (he once mentioned his wife used to be a bully in middle : school) : AND there is offense too, hengheng : as a chinese woman from mainland I feel like as if hurt badly : 55~~~
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 31 as a chinese man from mainland I pretend as if I care, a little
middle
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not sure. : more likely chinese (he once mentioned his wife used to be a bully in middle : school) : AND there is offense too, hengheng : as a chinese woman from mainland I feel like as if hurt badly : 55~~~
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 32 btw, are you riding these days? or getting tanned on the tennis court?
pics, if we are all nice?
middle
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not sure. : more likely chinese (he once mentioned his wife used to be a bully in middle : school) : AND there is offense too, hengheng : as a chinese woman from mainland I feel like as if hurt badly : 55~~~
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 33 I am being very nice!
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : btw, are you riding these days? or getting tanned on the tennis court? : pics, if we are all nice? : : middle
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 34 you got it.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oops
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 35 but I was also a bully in middle school?
hoho
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but of course you're the exception, not the rule. : : middle
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 36 I am nice too. I even pretended to care! kaka
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : btw, are you riding these days? or getting tanned on the tennis court? : pics, if we are all nice? : : middle
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 37 u were born in 1978?
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : as a chinese man from mainland I pretend as if I care, a little : : middle
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 38 what if I was?
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : u were born in 1978?
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 39 just came back from a big vacation. haven't been riding for sometime...
tennis matches are getting hotter and hotter, more and more competitive, and
almost less fun.....not onnly tanned, but also burnt
毁容鸟。。
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : btw, are you riding these days? or getting tanned on the tennis court? : pics, if we are all nice? : : middle
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 40 then i could explain ur nick name ah
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what if I was?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 41 even better. i think girl bullies are sexy.
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : but I was also a bully in middle school? : hoho
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 42 so what's your explanation?
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then i could explain ur nick name ah
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 43 horse. 1978 is a year of horse
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so what's your explanation?
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 45 never thought of it. no, I am a goat.
to biok:
the horse in my nickname is from the cycling slang "steed" as in "I rode my
Colnago today, such a steed". But considering the bike doesn't do any work,
and I am the one sweating, it's like a steed riding a bike called "prince" (
a bike frame by Pinarello, which I can't afford).
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : horse. 1978 is a year of horse
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 46 45 love才能win!!
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 15 love, biok wins.
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 47 哦,够复杂的
my
,
(
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : never thought of it. no, I am a goat. : to biok: : the horse in my nickname is from the cycling slang "steed" as in "I rode my : Colnago today, such a steed". But considering the bike doesn't do any work, : and I am the one sweating, it's like a steed riding a bike called "prince" ( : a bike frame by Pinarello, which I can't afford).
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 48 ok, deuce now. biok you need to make the next move -- the ball is in your
court.
and where are the pics? we want to see some sexy tan! |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 49 what's that?
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 15 love, biok wins.
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 50 tennis terms for score keeping.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's that?
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 51 haha, you are not into tennis, I guess
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's that?
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 52 My wife tried to get me into it. but running around a piece of concrete
after a ball is just not my thing.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : haha, you are not into tennis, I guess
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 53 I basically can't do any ball game, hehe
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My wife tried to get me into it. but running around a piece of concrete : after a ball is just not my thing.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 54 I haven't been visiting the cycling board so often but I accidentally came
across this thread so allow me to clarify a few things.:)
First of all, I don't think running 33 miles is nearly as tough as an
ironman. However, it meant a lot to me since I have always thought of the
marathon distance as the ultimate running endurance challenge. It is not
simply because the marathon is long, but because the marathon is longer than
20 miles. 20 miles is what separates marathoners from non-marathoners. Fo |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 55 Well, pain is addictive. But I have to say, pain is nothing to be proud of.
I have always thought of my need for pain is reflecting my lacking in
something else that's rather fundamental in life.
than
For
and
,
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I haven't been visiting the cycling board so often but I accidentally came : across this thread so allow me to clarify a few things.:) : First of all, I don't think running 33 miles is nearly as tough as an : ironman. However, it meant a lot to me since I have always thought of the : marathon distance as the ultimate running endurance challenge. It is not : simply because the marathon is long, but because the marathon is longer than : 20 miles. 20 miles is what separates marathoners from non-marathoners. Fo
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 56 Ultramarathon is the ultimate form of addiction to running. The ability to run an ultramarathon is mostly the ability to endure pain (and not pass out while doing it). There is nothing more fundamental in life than simply being alive, and when you endure great pain, you feel more alive than ever.
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【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, pain is addictive. But I have to say, pain is nothing to be proud of. : I have always thought of my need for pain is reflecting my lacking in : something else that's rather fundamental in life. : : than : For : and : ,
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 57 In fact, Dean Karnazes recommended running 12-14 hours through the night in
preparation for 100-milers, so that one can get used to running with sleep
deprivation.
,
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : running a 33 mile is probably not a big deal though most ppl never do that, : but the fact he ran for the whole night solo on a whim is another story. : I wont do that, safety aside, the sleepless run is just crazy. : I know in cycling there is also ultra ride, i admire in the same fashion
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 58 hoho, looking forward to seeing you do an ironman.
and looking forward to the day when mitbbs has a tri board.
than
For
and
,
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I haven't been visiting the cycling board so often but I accidentally came : across this thread so allow me to clarify a few things.:) : First of all, I don't think running 33 miles is nearly as tough as an : ironman. However, it meant a lot to me since I have always thought of the : marathon distance as the ultimate running endurance challenge. It is not : simply because the marathon is long, but because the marathon is longer than : 20 miles. 20 miles is what separates marathoners from non-marathoners. Fo
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 59 I read your post, it is very touched. I would say it is the best article I'
ve read on running board
I was touched not because you enjoyed the pain, but because:
1) you had the courage to challenge yourself reasonably and had a strong
will to achieve it.
2) your wife was really supportive, you are lucky, man!
than
For
and
,
to
me.
9
racing
is
draining
is
normal
experience
spontaneous
be
and
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I haven't been visiting the cycling board so often but I accidentally came : across this thread so allow me to clarify a few things.:) : First of all, I don't think running 33 miles is nearly as tough as an : ironman. However, it meant a lot to me since I have always thought of the : marathon distance as the ultimate running endurance challenge. It is not : simply because the marathon is long, but because the marathon is longer than : 20 miles. 20 miles is what separates marathoners from non-marathoners. Fo
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 60 first of all, tennis court is not simply a piece of concrete, not even the
hard court.
Secondly, yes, chasing a ball is my thing. Not only chasing, but also
smashing to the opponent's court. It takes a lot of energy, power, control, technique, skills,
patience, aggressiveness, competitiveness, confrontation, calmness,
confidence, frustration, up and downs, tricks, strategy,
independence, collaboration and integrity. All happen at the same time.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My wife tried to get me into it. but running around a piece of concrete : after a ball is just not my thing.
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 61
sure
But I have realized exactly the opposite throughout the years. That is, pain
is absolutely not the one thing that makes us feel most alive. There will
be a time that pain is no longer addictive and enjoyable. by then, pain is
just pain and pointless pain is just pointless. There has been at least once
that I felt no sense of accomplishment after an ultra event. pain, wattage,
and winning is just not the highest purpose of life.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In fact, Dean Karnazes recommended running 12-14 hours through the night in : preparation for 100-milers, so that one can get used to running with sleep : deprivation. : : ,
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 62 I have many facets. Which one do u wanna see?
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : btw, are you riding these days? or getting tanned on the tennis court? : pics, if we are all nice? : : middle
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 63 My wife would say yes, and I would say I don't know.
But I think I know this, a tennis match is not gonna touch my soul. and I
can tell you, a ride can, and have...
, technique, skills,
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : first of all, tennis court is not simply a piece of concrete, not even the : hard court. : Secondly, yes, chasing a ball is my thing. Not only chasing, but also : smashing to the opponent's court. It takes a lot of energy, power, control, technique, skills, : patience, aggressiveness, competitiveness, confrontation, calmness, : confidence, frustration, up and downs, tricks, strategy, : independence, collaboration and integrity. All happen at the same time.
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 64 Gosh, we know you love cycling, but don't be so biased, (or prejudiced)
toward other sports you don't even know much.
I guess we need to earn the right to say that a certain sport is not as
enjoyable.
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My wife would say yes, and I would say I don't know. : But I think I know this, a tennis match is not gonna touch my soul. and I : can tell you, a ride can, and have... : : , technique, skills,
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 65 Perhaps you should try running then.:) In running an ultra, it is not about
wattage or winning. It is about surviving.
I highly recommend Dean Karnazes' book. When he was running his first
western states 100 miler, he lost his vision temporarily, and crawled (
literally) a bit in the final mile. In his first attempt at badwater
ultramarathon, he failed to finish. It wasn't because he couldn't take the
pain any more. It was because he passed out. His jelly sandwich got toasted
in his hand because
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My wife would say yes, and I would say I don't know. : But I think I know this, a tennis match is not gonna touch my soul. and I : can tell you, a ride can, and have... : : , technique, skills,
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 66 hehe, I am not too sure that's what I said. I don't think it's my thing. How
other people enjoy it is not my concern.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Gosh, we know you love cycling, but don't be so biased, (or prejudiced) : toward other sports you don't even know much. : I guess we need to earn the right to say that a certain sport is not as : enjoyable.
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 67
about
that's almost the biggest reason I don't run, too taxing on the body. I
wouldn't want to get into a sport that limits are posited by damage instead
of ability. Even in cycling, I am shifting to shorter distance now. Since I
can't be fast long, at least I got to be fast.
toasted
I don't think I enjoy his story, probably just as you won't appreciate my
inspiration Armstrong (of course not the superficial story everyone knows).
But I truly enjoy this discussion. I will never do what you do.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Perhaps you should try running then.:) In running an ultra, it is not about : wattage or winning. It is about surviving. : I highly recommend Dean Karnazes' book. When he was running his first : western states 100 miler, he lost his vision temporarily, and crawled ( : literally) a bit in the final mile. In his first attempt at badwater : ultramarathon, he failed to finish. It wasn't because he couldn't take the : pain any more. It was because he passed out. His jelly sandwich got toasted : in his hand because
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 68 winning is of course not the purpose of life.
pain
once
wattage,
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : about : that's almost the biggest reason I don't run, too taxing on the body. I : wouldn't want to get into a sport that limits are posited by damage instead : of ability. Even in cycling, I am shifting to shorter distance now. Since I : can't be fast long, at least I got to be fast. : toasted : I don't think I enjoy his story, probably just as you won't appreciate my : inspiration Armstrong (of course not the superficial story everyone knows). : But I truly enjoy this discussion. I will never do what you do.
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 69 I want to see that bad-ass sexy side!!
Please?
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I have many facets. Which one do u wanna see?
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m***h 发帖数: 23691 | 70 The running record for WS100 is only 15.5h with 18000' up and 23000' down.
Even with the help of a mountain bike, I couldn't reach this speed. Japanese and Korean are excellent in this event. |
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 71 不错,够轴,适合长距离运动~
How
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hehe, I am not too sure that's what I said. I don't think it's my thing. How : other people enjoy it is not my concern.
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 72 这个有点难,至今对面还没有survive还留了证据下来的
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I want to see that bad-ass sexy side!! : Please?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 73 Nice. U r on my sexy babe list now.
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个有点难,至今对面还没有survive还留了证据下来的
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 74 够呛,你中意细长型,我可是粗短型
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Nice. U r on my sexy babe list now.
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s*****2 发帖数: 472 | 75 exercise makes one strong *_^
Japanese and Korean are excellent in this event.
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The running record for WS100 is only 15.5h with 18000' up and 23000' down. : Even with the help of a mountain bike, I couldn't reach this speed. Japanese and Korean are excellent in this event.
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 76 你发球的照片可一点都不粗短。什么时候贴照片阿?
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 够呛,你中意细长型,我可是粗短型
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m**h 发帖数: 618 | 77 that's surprising! I thought you are a marathoner!
I
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : it's a lot harder than a 200k ride. I can ride 200k slowly pretty much : effortlessly. I haven't yet done any long run > 15 miles. Not to mention I : run more than I ride, time wise.
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b******n 发帖数: 1269 | 78 I don't even need to see the bad or the sexy.
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I want to see that bad-ass sexy side!! : Please?
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 79 估计是刚换了3:2的显示器,分辨率还没调好。。。
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 够呛,你中意细长型,我可是粗短型
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 80 我一直想整张骑车的,可是怎么也没法拍:(
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你发球的照片可一点都不粗短。什么时候贴照片阿?
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 81 来骑stp,我替你拍
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我一直想整张骑车的,可是怎么也没法拍:(
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p***l 发帖数: 904 | 82 Speaking of Ultra, I kept thinking of bananas...and here is the "funny" story...
One of my co-workers' husband does Mega (100 miles), but he is a vegan (don'
t know how he gets his protein). Anyway he loves bananas and only the
bananas from whole foods (an organic food store in California).
My co-worker who does the shopping for her husband would have to buy a lot
of bananas every other day or so...and one day, the cashier at whole foods (
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 83 I bet he's proud to hear that because monkeys have very low body fat.
...
don'
(
not
【在 p***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Speaking of Ultra, I kept thinking of bananas...and here is the "funny" story... : One of my co-workers' husband does Mega (100 miles), but he is a vegan (don' : t know how he gets his protein). Anyway he loves bananas and only the : bananas from whole foods (an organic food store in California). : My co-worker who does the shopping for her husband would have to buy a lot : of bananas every other day or so...and one day, the cashier at whole foods ( : who probably had seen her buying so many bananas every
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 84 we can start with some pics of you playing tennis, and i'm sure you have
some classy tennis outfits to show!
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我一直想整张骑车的,可是怎么也没法拍:(
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 85 行啊,就放这两张好了
实际上我也只有4-6套outfit,不过不是每套都拍了照的,这两张也不是最近的。。蓝
衣服06年,红衣服去年
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : we can start with some pics of you playing tennis, and i'm sure you have : some classy tennis outfits to show!
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 86 hot damn! i was right! 谁说你粗短,我跟他急!
蓝色的tank top配白裙子,青春无敌啊。
全红的那套也很抢眼。
搔背动作很充分。
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p***l 发帖数: 904 | 87 赞青春无敌啊!
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 行啊,就放这两张好了 : 实际上我也只有4-6套outfit,不过不是每套都拍了照的,这两张也不是最近的。。蓝 : 衣服06年,红衣服去年
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 88 打球的其他衣服没了,看来还真得去摆摆pose拍两张
没青春无敌。。
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hot damn! i was right! 谁说你粗短,我跟他急! : 蓝色的tank top配白裙子,青春无敌啊。 : 全红的那套也很抢眼。 : 搔背动作很充分。 : 还有吗?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 89 那就上打球的video,从你的form来看,肯定做过录像分析的。
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打球的其他衣服没了,看来还真得去摆摆pose拍两张 : 没青春无敌。。
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 90 video网球版万人群奔不是一直挂着么
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那就上打球的video,从你的form来看,肯定做过录像分析的。
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 91 让我去找找。 还有没有其他的照片,赶紧趁人少闪一下:) |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 92 oops, I missed this post. I think Japanese and Korean's attitude towards
endurance sports largely represent the opposite of the western views (which
I strong agree). The purpose of such sports are for self-enjoyment and self-
discovery. But the Japanese and Korean culture, and to some extent in
Chinese culture, is much mission oriented and motivations often come from
external sources such as meeting others' expectation (failure is often seen
with shame). Shame, being a stronger motivator than an
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The running record for WS100 is only 15.5h with 18000' up and 23000' down. : Even with the help of a mountain bike, I couldn't reach this speed. Japanese and Korean are excellent in this event.
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 93 hehe, 奔个没在别的版奔过的
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 让我去找找。 还有没有其他的照片,赶紧趁人少闪一下:)
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 94 wow
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hehe, 奔个没在别的版奔过的
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 95 holy moly! 原来biok的原型是歌手啊,有没有唱歌的video?
你应该穿那套蓝白装去唱,就酷毙了。 |
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 97 is this it? omg, that's a boat load of talent. |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 98 after about 10 mins of intense analysis of the past 10 posts, I have
concluded that I missed 2 bens. Damn! |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 99 dude you snooze you lose :)
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : after about 10 mins of intense analysis of the past 10 posts, I have : concluded that I missed 2 bens. Damn!
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 101 When I was in high school, our PE teacher would often take us out to a
strenuous hike and tell us how the japanese kids would toughen their minds
and bodies through such exercises. I was not taught that endurance sports is
supposed to be fun, until I rediscovered running many years later. In fact,
I don't believe that shame is more motivating than simply being masochistic
.:)
which
self-
seen
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oops, I missed this post. I think Japanese and Korean's attitude towards : endurance sports largely represent the opposite of the western views (which : I strong agree). The purpose of such sports are for self-enjoyment and self- : discovery. But the Japanese and Korean culture, and to some extent in : Chinese culture, is much mission oriented and motivations often come from : external sources such as meeting others' expectation (failure is often seen : with shame). Shame, being a stronger motivator than an
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 102 这个歌和舞台的背景、灯光、以及最后男同学献花组合在一起,非常surreal。
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 103 hehe, they are both very motivating (which is hard to quantify and compare).
But for all the improvement I have made in cycling speed and power, I think
the greatest achievement I have ever made is rather breaking free from one
culture and embracing another, one that I can relate to and chose out of
free will. I think this may be a spirit shared by many Chinese emigrants,
athletes and non-athletes alike...
masochistic
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : When I was in high school, our PE teacher would often take us out to a : strenuous hike and tell us how the japanese kids would toughen their minds : and bodies through such exercises. I was not taught that endurance sports is : supposed to be fun, until I rediscovered running many years later. In fact, : I don't believe that shame is more motivating than simply being masochistic : .:) : : which : self- : seen
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