h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 1 好像没人骑车了?
白雪公主没有人影了,比约克瑟瑟love等美女也很少出没,蒙太奇、拉登基本失踪(但
愿是乐不思蜀),夏天快过了,好像大家都没有太大动静? 大家说说夏天都干啥了?
最近看了啥好电影?
似乎jerrymouse现在进步很大。
还有你们那几个买了新碳车的,最近怎么样了? |
b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 2 可是天天100+号人在线啊
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : 好像没人骑车了? : 白雪公主没有人影了,比约克瑟瑟love等美女也很少出没,蒙太奇、拉登基本失踪(但 : 愿是乐不思蜀),夏天快过了,好像大家都没有太大动静? 大家说说夏天都干啥了? : 最近看了啥好电影? : 似乎jerrymouse现在进步很大。 : 还有你们那几个买了新碳车的,最近怎么样了?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 3 mit的流量能信吗?那就是用来骗取广告收入滴。
freakonomics
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】 : 可是天天100+号人在线啊
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w*****h 发帖数: 1770 | |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 5 I am still riding - commute increased to 22 miles due to relocation of
office. super super busy these days to water.
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : 好像没人骑车了? : 白雪公主没有人影了,比约克瑟瑟love等美女也很少出没,蒙太奇、拉登基本失踪(但 : 愿是乐不思蜀),夏天快过了,好像大家都没有太大动静? 大家说说夏天都干啥了? : 最近看了啥好电影? : 似乎jerrymouse现在进步很大。 : 还有你们那几个买了新碳车的,最近怎么样了?
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 6 lots of my non-riding time goes to hifi now. There is simply nothing new to
me in cycling anymore! |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 7 How about racing? or TT?
to
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : lots of my non-riding time goes to hifi now. There is simply nothing new to : me in cycling anymore!
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 8 tt is not my thing. and I will start racing seriously next year. so right
now I am just chilling out, enjoying my riding of course...kaka
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : How about racing? or TT? : : to
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l******m 发帖数: 397 | 9 I'm here almost everyday, waiting for someone to BEN~~ |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 10 Here is a cool shot of the local TT.
【在 l******m 的大作中提到】 : I'm here almost everyday, waiting for someone to BEN~~
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y*****y 发帖数: 3433 | 11 还在骑,不过也就是每天带小孩上下班而已,没啥特别的。很久没怎么正二八经骑车了。
周末一半出去爬山,一半带小朋友瞎逛悠。
电影还在看,今年到目前为止看了128部,低于去年同期水平。上两周集中看了好多希
区柯克的,这两周在看小津的片子。
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : 好像没人骑车了? : 白雪公主没有人影了,比约克瑟瑟love等美女也很少出没,蒙太奇、拉登基本失踪(但 : 愿是乐不思蜀),夏天快过了,好像大家都没有太大动静? 大家说说夏天都干啥了? : 最近看了啥好电影? : 似乎jerrymouse现在进步很大。 : 还有你们那几个买了新碳车的,最近怎么样了?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 12 西北偏北,经典啊。
了。
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】 : 还在骑,不过也就是每天带小孩上下班而已,没啥特别的。很久没怎么正二八经骑车了。 : 周末一半出去爬山,一半带小朋友瞎逛悠。 : 电影还在看,今年到目前为止看了128部,低于去年同期水平。上两周集中看了好多希 : 区柯克的,这两周在看小津的片子。
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 13 唉,我想在hifi板多花些时间学习学习,但我觉得他们那的专业水平跟我们版差挺多的
,没什么意思,赶明儿俺还是卷着铺盖回来吧。。。 |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 14 HiFi 这东西,还是先得多听,不用上高档器材,先把各个genre(rock, jazz,
classical)的经典作品,都听到耳熟能详,激发出对音乐本身的热爱,然后才会有感觉
。(这个就跟骑车一样,不说别的,先上mileage)
一般来说,这些经典的东西,一张唱片要听4-5遍才能听出味道来(建议看john cusack
演得电影,high fidelity)
hifi版的同学们一般上来就是几千块的器材,然后用来听phantom of opera, 要不就
是上“发烧碟” :)
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : 唉,我想在hifi板多花些时间学习学习,但我觉得他们那的专业水平跟我们版差挺多的 : ,没什么意思,赶明儿俺还是卷着铺盖回来吧。。。
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 15 btw,今天去逛borders,减价,淘了几张CD:
1. Steve Miller Band: Young Hearts -- Complete Greatest Hits
2. The Best of Roxy Music
3. Roxy Music: Avalon (remastered)
4. David Bowie: Best of Bowie
5. Nat King Cole: The Very Best of |
w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 16 我估计是否和摄影器材版一样,爱好器材多于爱好音乐,特别是古典音乐
cusack
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : HiFi 这东西,还是先得多听,不用上高档器材,先把各个genre(rock, jazz, : classical)的经典作品,都听到耳熟能详,激发出对音乐本身的热爱,然后才会有感觉 : 。(这个就跟骑车一样,不说别的,先上mileage) : 一般来说,这些经典的东西,一张唱片要听4-5遍才能听出味道来(建议看john cusack : 演得电影,high fidelity) : hifi版的同学们一般上来就是几千块的器材,然后用来听phantom of opera, 要不就 : 是上“发烧碟” :)
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 17 I like symphony, so I need full range, very pricey to own. that's why I have
been spending more time to learn and tweak my hifi.
cusack
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : HiFi 这东西,还是先得多听,不用上高档器材,先把各个genre(rock, jazz, : classical)的经典作品,都听到耳熟能详,激发出对音乐本身的热爱,然后才会有感觉 : 。(这个就跟骑车一样,不说别的,先上mileage) : 一般来说,这些经典的东西,一张唱片要听4-5遍才能听出味道来(建议看john cusack : 演得电影,high fidelity) : hifi版的同学们一般上来就是几千块的器材,然后用来听phantom of opera, 要不就 : 是上“发烧碟” :)
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 18 first of all, I don't think there is anything wrong to be obsessed with
equipments (cameras or else), if one is aware of that. whether or not I can
make sense of other people's obsession is a different story. But if they are
happy, that's good enough for me.
for music, I have pretty high standard and particular taste. and I fully
understand that requires more cash, which is acceptable. But hifi is quite
different from photography. hifi is pure enjoyment/luxury. how much you can
enjoy is much cor
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】 : 我估计是否和摄影器材版一样,爱好器材多于爱好音乐,特别是古典音乐 : : cusack
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l******m 发帖数: 397 | 19 看不到 :(
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : Here is a cool shot of the local TT.
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 20 symphony还是现场好听。可以先用音响把曲目听熟了,再去现场。
歌剧现场也很不错。
你的系统有没有demo曲目,比如thus spake zarathustra什么的
have
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : I like symphony, so I need full range, very pricey to own. that's why I have : been spending more time to learn and tweak my hifi. : : cusack
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 21 我觉得吧,玩音响听音乐,跟骑车一样,没有几年的浸淫,其中文化的nuance是学不来
的。就好比一个刚开始骑车的同学,一上来就搞辆pinarello,全副武装,然后骑个
16mph,这骑车里面的乐趣跟咱们C版上众多几百块的车骑20+mph的好手相比,好像就差
点劲。
话说回来,有的高手就是玩器材,并不介意软件,那也是种玩法。
BTW, I highly recommend these additions to your system:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Technics-SLBD20D-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00005T3Y8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253593771&sr=8-5
Plus an early NAD amp, something like:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NAD-7225-PE-POWER-ENVELOPE-STEREO-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ270457580669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZV
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : first of all, I don't think there is anything wrong to be obsessed with : equipments (cameras or else), if one is aware of that. whether or not I can : make sense of other people's obsession is a different story. But if they are : happy, that's good enough for me. : for music, I have pretty high standard and particular taste. and I fully : understand that requires more cash, which is acceptable. But hifi is quite : different from photography. hifi is pure enjoyment/luxury. how much you can : enjoy is much cor
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 22 You certainly have made your point in the difference between hifi and photography
.
however, I still believe, at least for many people in HiFi board, people get
more obsessed with equipment than really spending time enjoying them.
I was once obsessed with classic music, and even after many years of totally
out of touch (too busy, and my wife hate classic music), I can tell what is
being played instantly once I tuned to classic music FM in my car. With
very poor equipment, mostly a walkman, I enj
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : first of all, I don't think there is anything wrong to be obsessed with : equipments (cameras or else), if one is aware of that. whether or not I can : make sense of other people's obsession is a different story. But if they are : happy, that's good enough for me. : for music, I have pretty high standard and particular taste. and I fully : understand that requires more cash, which is acceptable. But hifi is quite : different from photography. hifi is pure enjoyment/luxury. how much you can : enjoy is much cor
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 23 Exactly, I know some friends who know a lot about HiFi equipment, and can
really tell the difference between those very expensive equipments.
Unfortunately, some of them mostly just watch DVD with their 20k+ equipment
HiFi video room, and just occasionally listen to their collection of CDs.
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得吧,玩音响听音乐,跟骑车一样,没有几年的浸淫,其中文化的nuance是学不来 : 的。就好比一个刚开始骑车的同学,一上来就搞辆pinarello,全副武装,然后骑个 : 16mph,这骑车里面的乐趣跟咱们C版上众多几百块的车骑20+mph的好手相比,好像就差 : 点劲。 : 话说回来,有的高手就是玩器材,并不介意软件,那也是种玩法。 : BTW, I highly recommend these additions to your system: : http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Technics-SLBD20D-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00005T3Y8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253593771&sr=8-5 : Plus an early NAD amp, something like: : http://cgi.ebay.com/NAD-7225-PE-POWER-ENVELOPE-STEREO-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ270457580669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZV
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 24 that's so cool! you will have to tell me more about classical music. who are
your fav composers and conducters? what books to read? etc.
I never went over my head to buy really nice cameras/lenses or bikes,
understanding that I myself make more difference in the results than
equipments. but music/hifi is something special. when some good music played
right, it gave me goose bumps, brought you to tears. there is a saying that
"some people are willing to sell the couch to hold on to their hifi."
I
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】 : You certainly have made your point in the difference between hifi and photography : . : however, I still believe, at least for many people in HiFi board, people get : more obsessed with equipment than really spending time enjoying them. : I was once obsessed with classic music, and even after many years of totally : out of touch (too busy, and my wife hate classic music), I can tell what is : being played instantly once I tuned to classic music FM in my car. With : very poor equipment, mostly a walkman, I enj
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 25 anyway, here is a great classic rock piece: |
V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 26 some movies can definitely benefit from a great sound system. there is
nothing wrong with that. I even hooked my hifi up to my TV. it's really nice
to have everything sound the way they mean to be.
equipment
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】 : Exactly, I know some friends who know a lot about HiFi equipment, and can : really tell the difference between those very expensive equipments. : Unfortunately, some of them mostly just watch DVD with their 20k+ equipment : HiFi video room, and just occasionally listen to their collection of CDs.
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 27 not bad! I generally only listen to female voices (with some exceptions).
but this is some fine music.
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : anyway, here is a great classic rock piece:
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 28 I will have to wait on the LP thing. Right now I am pretty much settled with
what I have. I might consider a pretty nice amp next spring. But that's
about it for a while. Money will be mostly devoted to CDs.
My obsession with hifi is rather an obsession with speakers. The reason I am
spending some much time on hifi/speakers is I want to know what kind of
sound I want. aside from resolution and imaging like everyone else, I have
strong desire for deep, clean, and more importantly, fast bass. And
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得吧,玩音响听音乐,跟骑车一样,没有几年的浸淫,其中文化的nuance是学不来 : 的。就好比一个刚开始骑车的同学,一上来就搞辆pinarello,全副武装,然后骑个 : 16mph,这骑车里面的乐趣跟咱们C版上众多几百块的车骑20+mph的好手相比,好像就差 : 点劲。 : 话说回来,有的高手就是玩器材,并不介意软件,那也是种玩法。 : BTW, I highly recommend these additions to your system: : http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Technics-SLBD20D-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00005T3Y8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253593771&sr=8-5 : Plus an early NAD amp, something like: : http://cgi.ebay.com/NAD-7225-PE-POWER-ENVELOPE-STEREO-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ270457580669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZV
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 29 I really believe this is personal taste, though there is definitely good and
bad conductors.
I grew up with very bad impressive of music, as a kid I was totally driven
mad by a girl in my neighbor, who is practicing 二胡 all the time.
But somehow for reason I can't remember, when I just started high school, I
decide to really understand classical music. What I did is every night
before sleep, I put on my headphone, and force me to listen to Beethoven's
No 5 with my walkman.
It was like magic, the
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : that's so cool! you will have to tell me more about classical music. who are : your fav composers and conducters? what books to read? etc. : I never went over my head to buy really nice cameras/lenses or bikes, : understanding that I myself make more difference in the results than : equipments. but music/hifi is something special. when some good music played : right, it gave me goose bumps, brought you to tears. there is a saying that : "some people are willing to sell the couch to hold on to their hifi." : I
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 30 wow! this is some inspirational stuff. I did some reading on wiki. But my
music collection is still small. I will have to work on that.
so far my favorite two things to do:
1. late night (the background will be a lot quieter) home alone or some
times with my wife, a glass of wine or two, listening to symphonies at high
volume.
2. evening after a ride, sitting outside with a window open, listening to
some small stage performance, piano, violin solo, or even chamber orchestra.
and
I
understood
sp
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】 : I really believe this is personal taste, though there is definitely good and : bad conductors. : I grew up with very bad impressive of music, as a kid I was totally driven : mad by a girl in my neighbor, who is practicing 二胡 all the time. : But somehow for reason I can't remember, when I just started high school, I : decide to really understand classical music. What I did is every night : before sleep, I put on my headphone, and force me to listen to Beethoven's : No 5 with my walkman. : It was like magic, the
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 31 here is another universe waiting to be explored: jazz...
you can start with these two:
http://www.amazon.com/Kind-Blue-Miles-Davis/dp/B000002ADT
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Train-John-Coltrane/dp/B000005H7D
Just like Wolf said, if you haven't listened to jazz before, the first
couple of times it will sound weird. But after a few more rounds, your eyes
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 32 nice... fast, tight, and efficient bass is not cheap. on top of high-end
speakers, it will take a work-horse amp to drive it.
you might consider separate pre-amp and power amp (with separate power
supplies for the two channels). most integrated amps use a common power
supply -- as a result the power is sucked away by the heavy bass, resulting
in murky sounds. the separation of pre-amp and power amp would probably be
the most cost-effective way to upgrade from your current system. again, try
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : I will have to wait on the LP thing. Right now I am pretty much settled with : what I have. I might consider a pretty nice amp next spring. But that's : about it for a while. Money will be mostly devoted to CDs. : My obsession with hifi is rather an obsession with speakers. The reason I am : spending some much time on hifi/speakers is I want to know what kind of : sound I want. aside from resolution and imaging like everyone else, I have : strong desire for deep, clean, and more importantly, fast bass. And
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 33 靠,老狼原来还是一浪漫主义诗人!
and
I
understood
spent
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】 : I really believe this is personal taste, though there is definitely good and : bad conductors. : I grew up with very bad impressive of music, as a kid I was totally driven : mad by a girl in my neighbor, who is practicing 二胡 all the time. : But somehow for reason I can't remember, when I just started high school, I : decide to really understand classical music. What I did is every night : before sleep, I put on my headphone, and force me to listen to Beethoven's : No 5 with my walkman. : It was like magic, the
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 34 I have always liked vocal jazz (Nina Simon, for example). but the youtube
one is insane, even I have heard it here and there for many times!
eyes
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : here is another universe waiting to be explored: jazz... : you can start with these two: : http://www.amazon.com/Kind-Blue-Miles-Davis/dp/B000002ADT : http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Train-John-Coltrane/dp/B000005H7D : Just like Wolf said, if you haven't listened to jazz before, the first : couple of times it will sound weird. But after a few more rounds, your eyes : will open up and see things.
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 35 just ordered these:
Anthology - Nina Simone
Kind of Blue - Miles Davis
Brahms: Sonatas for Cello and Piano - Yo-Yo Ma
The Voice of the Sparrow: The Very Best of Edith Piaf - Edith Piaf
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
Time Out - The Dave Brubeck Quartet |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 36 Dude! Awesome selection.
Love Brahms.
Edith Piaf is classic..
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : just ordered these: : Anthology - Nina Simone : Kind of Blue - Miles Davis : Brahms: Sonatas for Cello and Piano - Yo-Yo Ma : The Voice of the Sparrow: The Very Best of Edith Piaf - Edith Piaf : A Love Supreme - John Coltrane : Time Out - The Dave Brubeck Quartet
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 37 Have you seen the movie about her yet? It was an amazing story! |
h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 38 I saw parts of it... great performance.
Her album was among the first ones I bought when I came to the US...
remember those 12 CDs for 1 cent from BMG and Clumbia?
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : Have you seen the movie about her yet? It was an amazing story!
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 39 Can I get this deal too?
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : I saw parts of it... great performance. : Her album was among the first ones I bought when I came to the US... : remember those 12 CDs for 1 cent from BMG and Clumbia?
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h******2 发帖数: 1498 | 40 These two companies are both folded, after napster came on board :)
probably the best place for CDs is ebay, or, if you have the time, you can
download complete, loss-less albums using BT
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】 : Can I get this deal too?
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V*****n 发帖数: 893 | 41 I really need to figure out how to use BT. right now my firewall is blocking
the ports needed to run BT properly. Damn!
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : These two companies are both folded, after napster came on board :) : probably the best place for CDs is ebay, or, if you have the time, you can : download complete, loss-less albums using BT
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