l********m
发帖数: 191 | 1 简介：在上海时跟同学周末骑浦东机场骑得也不宜乐乎，来回八九十公里吧，骑得是
Giant初初级的买菜roadbike，好像900多人刀买的，也挺喜欢,所以对器材不是太敏感
现在预算$1K以内，新手，求版上老大们意见；版上考察了一下，好像Scattante
性价比不错（还是很看重性价比的），然后选择的话也就R570了，这个车899算deal吗
2010 Scattante R-570 Road Bike
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_109123
BOTTOM BRACKET: FSA Mega EXO
PEDALS: Wellgo Clipless Road
BRAKES: Tektro R520, dual pivot
REAR DERAILLEUR: New Shimano 105
CASSETTE: New Shimano 105, CS-5700, 10-speed, 12-25T
CHAIN: KMC DX10 SC, 1/2"x11/128",116L
CRANKSET: FSA Gossamer, 50/39/30T chainrings
FORK: SL3 1 1/8" CroMo steerer, carbon legs
FRAME: XRL double-butted Aluminum, double water bottle mounts,
replaceable rear derailleur hanger
FRONT DERAILLEUR: New Shimano 105, FD-5700
GRIPS/TAPE: Velo Gel
HANDLEBAR: Alloy, 31.8mm Center, Width: 400mm(48cm), 420mm(51/54cm),
440mm(57/60cm)
HEADSET: Cane Creek 1 1/8" integrated, alloy top cap
LEVERS: New Shimano 105 ST-5700
RACK MOUNTS: No
SADDLE: Prologo Scratch Pro
SEATPOST: Alloy, 27.2 X 300mm
SHIFTERS: New Shimano 105 ST-5700
STEM: Alloy, ID: 28.6mm, -5 degree, Bar bore: 31.8mm, Length: 90mm(
48cm), 100mm(51cm), 110mm(54cm), 120mm(57/60cm)
TIRES: Vittoria Zaffiro, 700c x 23
WHEELSET: Alex ALX270, 700C, Front: 20H radial, Rear :24H, Stainless
Steel spokes
ms前人问过，老大们也没啥意见，如果R570不好或不划算的话，有没有啥其他选择?
FUJI？
另外PB怎么买才合适？那个team performance好像只是返10%点数然后以后用是吧，不
是通常的rebate.
多谢多谢 | h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 2 我看还不错.
当然deal这个东西可遇不可求. Performance有时候有15% off bike + 10% rebate, 或
者20% rebate的, 但你等到那时候也许你的size就没有了.
Performance的rebate是要加入一个club, 有年费的, 好像是$25还是$35的说. rebate
是积累点数, 点数可以当cash在它家的网上或实体店用.
【在 l********m 的大作中提到】
: 简介：在上海时跟同学周末骑浦东机场骑得也不宜乐乎，来回八九十公里吧，骑得是
: Giant初初级的买菜roadbike，好像900多人刀买的，也挺喜欢,所以对器材不是太敏感
: 现在预算$1K以内，新手，求版上老大们意见；版上考察了一下，好像Scattante
: 性价比不错（还是很看重性价比的），然后选择的话也就R570了，这个车899算deal吗
: 2010 Scattante R-570 Road Bike
: http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_109123
: BOTTOM BRACKET: FSA Mega EXO
: PEDALS: Wellgo Clipless Road
: BRAKES: Tektro R520, dual pivot
: REAR DERAILLEUR: New Shimano 105
| m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 3 good deal, time to jump!!! | l********m
发帖数: 191 | 4 非常感谢heyihua和miyami的回复！
周末的时候去PB店里试了试，R570适合我的size应该是57,店里只有2011黑红款($999),
如果我想要2010款可以order给我($899)，店员告诉我2011只比2010多了pedal 105，这
个零售也是$99左右，劝我上2011。我问他2010款的蓝色接近哪一种，他指给我一辆
FUJI的车说大约是这种亮蓝，有点儿不太喜欢；然后2011款的确不错，但是跟我国内骑
的车黑红配太像了，遂有些犹豫，终究想有些改变
又上bikesdirect上看了看，发现三款感觉还不错:
2011 Windsor Fens(white) $749.95 http://bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/fens_xi.htm
2011 Gravity Comp30 $799.95 （http://bikesdirect.com/products/gravity/comp30_silver.htm）
2011 Gravity Pro30 $899.95 http://bikesdirect.com/products/gravity/pro30_gray.htm )
详细规格如下
1. Windsor Fens 主要是105
Frame: Engineered, Precision welded Heat treated aluminum main tubes and
rear stays, 2x H2O bosses, replaceable rear derailleur hanger
Fork: Kinesis carbon fiber legs with 1.125 inch steerer tube
Crankset: FSA Vero Aluminum Alloy arms, Triple 50/39/30T Black Finish
Bottom Bracket: Sealed Cartridge Bearing ST
Pedals: FREE: Road Clipless compatible with two bolt/spd sole shoes (not
"spd-sl")
Front Derailleur: 2011 Shimano 105 / 5700 for triple 30 speed
Rear Derailleur: 2011 Shimano 105 / 5700 for triple 30 speed
Shifters: 2011 Shimano 105 Integrated STI 10 Speed, (30 total gears,
ST5700)
Cassette/Freewheel: 2011 Shimano 105 HG5700 10 Speed Cassette 12-25T
Chain: 2011 Shimano CN5700 HG 10 Speed
Hubs: Formula Aluminum for 10 speed (30 gears total)
Spokes: Stainless Steel, Radial front pattern
Rims: Alex DA22 Aluminum Wheelset with machined brake track
Tires: Michelin Dynamic 700x23 high pressure road tires, presta valve
tubes
Brakes: Tektro R530 BlackChrome DualPull aluminum calipers
Brake Levers: Shimano 105 (integrated with shifters) ST5700
Headset: Threadless Sealed Ball Bearing Aheadset 1.125"
Handlebar: Ritchey Comp 6061 Butted Aluminum Biomax Ergo bend
Stem: Ritchey Comp Threadless Aluminum 1.125 steerer, 31.8mm clamp
Tape/Grip: Black cork
Saddle: Racing with accent panels
Seat Post: FSA Team Issue Carbonwrap, 27.2mm
2.Gravity Comp30也是105, 和Fens的区别我看来是rim要好一些?
Frame: Gravity RSeries Aluminum, Engineered Hydroformed Top tube, Bi-Oval
downtube, S-Bend seatstays, 2xH2O mounts, replaceable rear derailleur
hanger
Fork: Kinesis Aero-profile, Carbon Fiber Straightblade, 1.125 inch
steerer
Crankset: FSA Omega Aluminum arms, 50/39/30T (130BCD)
Bottom Bracket: MegaEXO External Bearing Sealed BB4000
Pedals: 9/16th axle, Platform pedals included (does NOT come with
toeclips/straps)
Front Derailleur: SHIMANO 105 ST-5700 for 10 Speed
Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO 105 for 10 Speed (30 gears total)
Shifters: SHIMANO 105 ST-5700 for 10 Speed (30 gears total)
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano 5700 Cassette 11-25T for 10 Speed (30 gears
total)
Chain: Shimano for 10 Speed
Hubs: Vuelta aluminum, Black finish with Quick Release
Spokes: Bladed Stainless Steel
Rims: Vuelta ZeroLite Comp, Double Wall aluminum with machined brake
track
Tires: 700x23C BLACK F/V MICHELIN DYNAMIC or CONTINENTAL ULTRA SPORT, (
cannot choose which tires), presta valve tubes
Brakes: Tektro R570 Dual Pivot, Aluminum Black finish
Brake Levers: SHIMANO 105 ST-5700
Handlebar: Aluminum alloy black, 31.8mm 400MM(43-49CM), 420MM(50-54CM),
440MM(55-60CM)
Stem / Headset: Aluminum alloy threadless, 1.125", 31.8mm clamp, EXT:90MM
(43~46.5)/100MM(50~53.5)/110MM(53.5~58.5), Cane Creek VP-A71 Labyrinth
Sealed, Cage Ball Bearing
Tape/Grip: Black cork
Saddle: Gravity Road with comfort groove
Seat Post: Aluminum alloy Micro Adjust 27.2mm
Seat Clamp: Machined Aluminum Alloy with bolt
3. Gravity Pro30就用Ultegra了
Frame: Gravity RSeries Aluminum, Engineered Hydroformed Top tube, Bi-Oval
downtube, S-Bend seatstays, 2xH2O mounts, replaceable rear derailleur
hanger
Fork: Kinesis Aero-profile, Carbon Fiber Straightblade, 1.125 inch
steerer
Crankset: FSA Gossamer Aluminum arms, 50/39/30T (130BCD)
Bottom Bracket: FSA MegaEXO External Bearing Sealed BB8000/6000
Pedals: 9/16th axle, Platform pedals included (does NOT come with
toeclips/straps)
Front Derailleur: SHIMANO Ultegra ST-6700 for 10 Speed
Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO Ultegra for 10 Speed (30 gears total)
Shifters: SHIMANO Ultegra ST-6700 for 10 Speed (30 gears total)
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano 5700 Cassette 11-25T for 10 Speed (30 gears
total)
Chain: Shimano for 10 Speed
Hubs: Vuelta PRO aluminum, Black finish with Quick Release, Precision
Bearings
Spokes: Bladed Stainless Steel
Rims: Vuelta ZeroLite PRO, Double Wall aluminum with machined brake track
Tires: 700x23C BLACK F/V MICHELIN DYNAMIC or CONTINENTAL ULTRA SPORT, (
cannot choose which tires), presta valve tubes
Brakes: Tektro R570 Dual Pivot, Aluminum Black finish
Brake Levers: SHIMANO Ultegra ST-6700
Handlebar: Aluminum alloy black, 31.8mm
Stem / Headset: Aluminum alloy threadless, 1.125", 31.8mm clamp Cane
Creek VP-A71 Labyrinth Sealed, Cage Ball Bearing
Tape/Grip: Black cork
Saddle: Gravity Road with comfort groove
Seat Post: Aluminum alloy Micro Adjust 27.2mm
Seat Clamp: Machined Aluminum Alloy with bolt
包括R570在内有这四种选择，bikesdirect上这些车有没有哪款是特别鸡肋的，又或者
哪款是很划算的？谢谢版上的朋友 | h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 5 小二忽悠啊， 105的pedal哪要99刀。再说那个2010带的 wellgo虽然烂，也值 20刀...
我用它commute了2000麦还挺结实。 这样看来2010的model要划算点。昨天好像还有
additional 10% off...再等等应该还会有...
bikesdirect其实价钱跟PB sale的时候差不多，占了个不用打税的便宜。不过pb怎么都
算实体店，有个小毛病什么的可以帮你修修。
),
【在 l********m 的大作中提到】
: 非常感谢heyihua和miyami的回复！
: 周末的时候去PB店里试了试，R570适合我的size应该是57,店里只有2011黑红款($999),
: 如果我想要2010款可以order给我($899)，店员告诉我2011只比2010多了pedal 105，这
: 个零售也是$99左右，劝我上2011。我问他2010款的蓝色接近哪一种，他指给我一辆
: FUJI的车说大约是这种亮蓝，有点儿不太喜欢；然后2011款的确不错，但是跟我国内骑
: 的车黑红配太像了，遂有些犹豫，终究想有些改变
: 又上bikesdirect上看了看，发现三款感觉还不错:
: 2011 Windsor Fens(white) $749.95 http://bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/fens_xi.htm
: 2011 Gravity Comp30 $799.95 （http://bikesdirect.com/products/gravity/comp30_silver.htm）
: 2011 Gravity Pro30 $899.95 http://bikesdirect.com/products/gravity/pro30_gray.htm )
| s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 6 我一直很担心bikesdirect的车尺寸和网上描述的不是特别一致
我买的那台破车就差非常多
..
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 小二忽悠啊， 105的pedal哪要99刀。再说那个2010带的 wellgo虽然烂，也值 20刀...
: 我用它commute了2000麦还挺结实。 这样看来2010的model要划算点。昨天好像还有
: additional 10% off...再等等应该还会有...
: bikesdirect其实价钱跟PB sale的时候差不多，占了个不用打税的便宜。不过pb怎么都
: 算实体店，有个小毛病什么的可以帮你修修。
:
: ),
| l********m
发帖数: 191 | 7 Thanks shallpion and heyihua for your comments!
My another question is, could you really feel the difference between the 105
and ultegra when you are biking? I mean the derailleurs.
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 我一直很担心bikesdirect的车尺寸和网上描述的不是特别一致
: 我买的那台破车就差非常多
:
: ..
| s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 8 我的破车是deroe的
只用过这么一种。。。
磨变速器很烦。。。
105
【在 l********m 的大作中提到】
: Thanks shallpion and heyihua for your comments!
: My another question is, could you really feel the difference between the 105
: and ultegra when you are biking? I mean the derailleurs.
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 9 没用过105, 但是用过Sram Force和Apex。重量上有区别。使用起来区别也是有的，但
是并不是特别大。如果我的Force
500 mile不洗链条，那换挡就还没有完全干净的apex利索。
105
【在 l********m 的大作中提到】
: Thanks shallpion and heyihua for your comments!
: My another question is, could you really feel the difference between the 105
: and ultegra when you are biking? I mean the derailleurs.
| l********m
发帖数: 191 | 10 谢谢大家的帮助
关于这个105和Ultegra, 使用上有没有手感的差别呢（手变）？譬如说Ultegra用起来
就爽很多？
他俩的耐用性应该差不多吧？ | | | h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 11 不如你去店里试骑一下?
手变都很耐用的
【在 l********m 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢大家的帮助
: 关于这个105和Ultegra, 使用上有没有手感的差别呢（手变）？譬如说Ultegra用起来
: 就爽很多？
: 他俩的耐用性应该差不多吧？
| l********m
发帖数: 191 | 12 谢谢heyihua
周末再去店里试试，不行就上R570了 | l********m
发帖数: 191 | 13 中毒了.........
被人推荐了canonndale..........
sigh............
敢问各位老大<
这三款
CAAD 8 105 ($1279)
CAAD10 105 ($1499)
SYNAPSE Alloy 105 ($1389)
那个最值得买呀,我看ms差不多嘛,架子都是Al,型号不同而已\
另外C家的质量应该很好吧?
哪里能买便宜点儿的Canonndale,REI? | k****r
发帖数: 593 | 14 现在Cannondale的架子是在美国造的吗？ | s******s
发帖数: 190 | 15 I heard from some pros saying that cononndale has some bad reputations of
being breakable. But I could be wrong. Also alloy frame should be fine, but
just a piece of info. | s******s
发帖数: 190 | 16 also if you are new to road cycling, there is no need to buy any bikes more than $1000 IMO. Getting your body fit is much more important & useful than an expensive bike.
Of course if you have plenty of money, and can afford potential crashes as a newbie and bike damage, things are different :) | s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 17 i think it may even better if he just goes for a used bike from craigslist
or local club if he is lucky
more than $1000 IMO. Getting your body fit is much more important & useful
than an expensive bike.
a newbie and bike damage, things are different :)
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: also if you are new to road cycling, there is no need to buy any bikes more than $1000 IMO. Getting your body fit is much more important & useful than an expensive bike.
: Of course if you have plenty of money, and can afford potential crashes as a newbie and bike damage, things are different :)
| l********m
发帖数: 191 | 18 谢谢大家给我消毒，这东西确实没止境，就不长草了
多谢kenter,socratis,shallpion给我的建议，还是PB买一辆吧
我又看到一款2010 Fuji Roubaix 1.0 （$899），跟R-570一个价钱，但是Sram Rival
配件，小弟对Sram一无所知，上网看了看ms是Sram推出来跟Ultegra对抗的?而且Rival
的shifters是Carbon的！？这样子的话我肯定奔Fuji了，比R-570还划算呀，而且感觉
颜色也比10款570好一些
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_107758
BOTTOM BRACKET: FSA MegaExo Exterior Bearing System
BRAKES: Tektro R-580 dual pivot w/cartridge pads
CASSETTE: SRAM PG-1070, 11-26T 10-speed
CHAIN: KMC DX10
CRANKSET: FSA Gossamer MegaExo w/ Integrated spindle, 39/53T 7075 AL ri
FORK: FC-770 Fuji Bonded Carbon Integrated w/ 1 1/8" Alloy Steerer
FRAME: NEW Fuji Altair 2 custom butted aluminum, Integrated 1 1/8" head
tube, Standard seat tube & BB shell, Double water bottle mounts. Fuji Altair
2 aluminum chain stays, Forged road dropout with replaceable derailleur
hanger
FRONT DERAILLEUR: SRAM Rival, 31.8mm
GRIPS/TAPE: Fuji custom cork wrap
HANDLEBAR: Fuji CGC Double Butted 6061, 31.8mm w/Anatomical drops
HEADSET: Tange IS-24 1 1/8" Integrated Road
LEVERS: SRAM Rival Carbon DoubleTap
PEDALS: NA
REAR DERAILLEUR: SRAM Rival
SADDLE: Fuji CGC Racing
SEATPOST: Fuji CGC Butted Oversize Alloy, 250mm
SHIFTERS: SRAM Rival Carbon DoubleTap shifter/brake, 20-Speed
STEM: Fuji CGC Alloy 3D forged, +/-7 degree
TIRES: Vittoria Zaffiro, 700 x 23c
WHEELSET: Alex ALX- 200, 700c clincher
麻烦各位大侠给给意见，现在很钟意这款，local也有人卖二手的，$860firm,如果大侠们
推荐的话，就去PB试骑定下来 | k****r
发帖数: 593 | 19 觉得这个不错，比R570好看。
个人认为还是买新的，这样办一个会员卡和spin doctor卡还有打折，省的钱比$40要多。 | k****r
发帖数: 593 | | l********m
发帖数: 191 | 21 谢谢Kenter！
相比于还未购车的我，你已经不算新手了:)
我也认为买新的好，还没时间去PB,如果试骑感觉好的话就定这个Roubaix1.0了
多谢版上各位朋友的帮助 |
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