a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 1 这是oct.25; youtube has the sept. Galaxy of Fame version.
总算看清楚了。 先说rumba, 目前只看了hanna。
around 1:40 into the clip, i see karina's routine
around 3:36 into the clip, i see hanna and killick's routine
around 4:12 into the clip, i see elena's routine
这是最明显的几处。 看完后, 感觉心情很复杂, 呵呵。 你们看了说说感受吧。
http://kcballroom.com/video_blog/2008/10/29/october-surprize-slavik-kryklyvyy-hanna-karttunen-new-videos-october-25-2008/ |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 2 some gossip:
"we were chatting about the Latin results and she noted that Slavik
Kryklyvyy (one of my two favorite Latin dancers; the other, Sergey Surkov,
was unfortunately injured and couldn’t compete), was there watching but
still didn’t compete with his newish partner, Hanna Karttunen. Word had it
that he got cold feet; didn’t feel up to it."
一石二鸟, Sergey got injured at international. slavik got cold feet?
they should do more shows and get warmed up...yes slavik must dance!
source: "slavik m |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 3 刚发现dancesportinfo上居然已经有了他们的照片了! 还没有任何比赛就...
忍不住存了几张, despite the annoying volgyi attila...
贴出来一起看。
第一张单人的,跳完谢幕。 平面里就能感受到那一刻。 |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 4 第二张是rumba。 i like her dress. |
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 6 第四张,是samba, 我猜。 hanna的dress和长辫子match |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 7 这张主要是贴slavik, 同样的动作姿势,没有看到其他top dancers做到这样的神采
(maybe sourkov) |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 8 paso是什么主题? looks like he is gonna kill her |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 9 又在dance上发了一晚上的痴 ;)
good night. |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 10 This guy has a nice blog (DWTS) briefing the top latin scene. blog #1 to #6.
There are interesting details. #4 is about slavik and karina.
i love slavik and karina so much, sigh...
http://forums.abc.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=abc1868888712 |
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m*******r 发帖数: 168 | 11 By watching the video, I feel that Hanna is a dancer of the last "generation
." Dancesport, as a "sport" nowadays, requires more athleticism. Hanna's
athleticism, (power,) and leg strength are not in the same league as the
current (several) top female Latin dancers. Maybe spending time to do the
south american showdance with her husband made things worse.
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这是oct.25; youtube has the sept. Galaxy of Fame version. : 总算看清楚了。 先说rumba, 目前只看了hanna。 : around 1:40 into the clip, i see karina's routine : around 3:36 into the clip, i see hanna and killick's routine : around 4:12 into the clip, i see elena's routine : 这是最明显的几处。 看完后, 感觉心情很复杂, 呵呵。 你们看了说说感受吧。 : http://kcballroom.com/video_blog/2008/10/29/october-surprize-slavik-kryklyvyy-hanna-karttunen-new-videos-october-25-2008/
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 12 i seemed to hear about max, cheryl, blah, which i don't care. what caught my
eyes is a gossip magazine at the train station, which talked about c. ballas
and karina.
watching
with
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : By watching the video, I feel that Hanna is a dancer of the last "generation : ." Dancesport, as a "sport" nowadays, requires more athleticism. Hanna's : athleticism, (power,) and leg strength are not in the same league as the : current (several) top female Latin dancers. Maybe spending time to do the : south american showdance with her husband made things worse.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 13 这就是我心情复杂的原因。 我不愿意这样认为, 但是又忍不住这样认为, 心里很矛
盾。
这之前,看到有一个人在youtube上说‘i am afraid she is losing her speed.' 这
句话象针扎了我一下。现在看到清晰的clips。在samba里面我都看到她明显出错,或者
说不够灵活的地方, 这样说吧,她有些时候,很不明显地(not detectable for most
people),似乎跟不上slavik, 特别是快一点的dance。
我希望这只是暂时的状态, 通过一年warmup, 她能够恢复到很好的状态。
her ex-partner seems to fit into your 'last generation' comment, too, which
was the reason olga decided not to continue the tryout with him.
generation
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : By watching the video, I feel that Hanna is a dancer of the last "generation : ." Dancesport, as a "sport" nowadays, requires more athleticism. Hanna's : athleticism, (power,) and leg strength are not in the same league as the : current (several) top female Latin dancers. Maybe spending time to do the : south american showdance with her husband made things worse.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 14 Karina 跟这些non-top dancers们,什么cheryl, kim, edita, who are never in her
league (of course i have nothing against these dancers), 在一起做tv show, 争
idot audience/judge的宠, 加上这些莫名其妙的gossip, 我真是心痛啊。 |
a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 15 昨晚那个blog里的回忆, 让我深深怀念"the legendary slavik and karina". |
M*****e 发帖数: 1827 | 16 他的脚一向很冷
it
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : some gossip: : "we were chatting about the Latin results and she noted that Slavik : Kryklyvyy (one of my two favorite Latin dancers; the other, Sergey Surkov, : was unfortunately injured and couldn’t compete), was there watching but : still didn’t compete with his newish partner, Hanna Karttunen. Word had it : that he got cold feet; didn’t feel up to it." : 一石二鸟, Sergey got injured at international. slavik got cold feet? : they should do more shows and get warmed up...yes slavik must dance! : source: "slavik m
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 17 what do you mean? is that a disease/syndrome or injury or what?
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他的脚一向很冷 : : it
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M*****e 发帖数: 1827 | 18 哈哈,aurae一向很可爱
我是联想了一下,他刚和elena搭档时,脚也冷了几次
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what do you mean? is that a disease/syndrome or injury or what?
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o***n 发帖数: 921 | 19 同sigh
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨晚那个blog里的回忆, 让我深深怀念"the legendary slavik and karina".
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 20 这样说, 比批评我还难受 :D
这样的话, 我就不担心他了。
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈,aurae一向很可爱 : 我是联想了一下,他刚和elena搭档时,脚也冷了几次
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 21 i like their rumba song, 昨天到今天已经“听”了clip不下50遍,can somebody
get it somewhere?
Lara Fabian - Broken Vow
(per youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZDPpEHP9AI&feature=related) |
s*********l 发帖数: 332 | 22 Why did you remove your picture ya? (the one used in your icon)
most
which
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这就是我心情复杂的原因。 我不愿意这样认为, 但是又忍不住这样认为, 心里很矛 : 盾。 : 这之前,看到有一个人在youtube上说‘i am afraid she is losing her speed.' 这 : 句话象针扎了我一下。现在看到清晰的clips。在samba里面我都看到她明显出错,或者 : 说不够灵活的地方, 这样说吧,她有些时候,很不明显地(not detectable for most : people),似乎跟不上slavik, 特别是快一点的dance。 : 我希望这只是暂时的状态, 通过一年warmup, 她能够恢复到很好的状态。 : her ex-partner seems to fit into your 'last generation' comment, too, which : was the reason olga decided not to continue the tryout with him. :
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s*********l 发帖数: 332 | 23 偶也觉得他脚冷。感觉他有点总是觉得他比他舞伴强。其实我觉得他也不咋地。
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哈哈,aurae一向很可爱 : 我是联想了一下,他刚和elena搭档时,脚也冷了几次
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s*********l 发帖数: 332 | 24 这样说, 比批评我还难受----戒是爱的最高境界。赞境界!
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这样说, 比批评我还难受 :D : 这样的话, 我就不担心他了。
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M*****e 发帖数: 1827 | 25 nod nod
【在 s*********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 偶也觉得他脚冷。感觉他有点总是觉得他比他舞伴强。其实我觉得他也不咋地。
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s*********l 发帖数: 332 | 26 And the same can be said about Louis van Amstel. He used to make Karina cry
I think.
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nod nod
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 27 maybe you heard some negative gossips? I don't see that in his partnership
with karina (or even leunis). i entered into the scene much later than you
gals. in the summer of 2006, they already split, before i set my eyes on
latin dancing. I don't hear gossips, which may have allowed me simply '
objectively' watch his dancing. and i've got impressed.
by the way, what is people's general comment on karen hardy? i have no idea
about her dancing but followed the blog and saw her jive with watson - i
【在 s*********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 偶也觉得他脚冷。感觉他有点总是觉得他比他舞伴强。其实我觉得他也不咋地。
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 28 under what circumstances? was he sort of her coach at one point?
cry
【在 s*********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : And the same can be said about Louis van Amstel. He used to make Karina cry : I think.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 29 看腻了。
my eyes are very picky. if i can watch something repeatedly for a long time
and don't get bored, that something is really something - i use this to test
which dancing couple i like most.
【在 s*********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Why did you remove your picture ya? (the one used in your icon) : : most : which
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n***h 发帖数: 429 | 30 hanna's rumba walks are terrible.
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这是oct.25; youtube has the sept. Galaxy of Fame version. : 总算看清楚了。 先说rumba, 目前只看了hanna。 : around 1:40 into the clip, i see karina's routine : around 3:36 into the clip, i see hanna and killick's routine : around 4:12 into the clip, i see elena's routine : 这是最明显的几处。 看完后, 感觉心情很复杂, 呵呵。 你们看了说说感受吧。 : http://kcballroom.com/video_blog/2008/10/29/october-surprize-slavik-kryklyvyy-hanna-karttunen-new-videos-october-25-2008/
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i**u 发帖数: 213 | 31 they will perform at Columbia comp Dec 6, you can go to watch them live.
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这是oct.25; youtube has the sept. Galaxy of Fame version. : 总算看清楚了。 先说rumba, 目前只看了hanna。 : around 1:40 into the clip, i see karina's routine : around 3:36 into the clip, i see hanna and killick's routine : around 4:12 into the clip, i see elena's routine : 这是最明显的几处。 看完后, 感觉心情很复杂, 呵呵。 你们看了说说感受吧。 : http://kcballroom.com/video_blog/2008/10/29/october-surprize-slavik-kryklyvyy-hanna-karttunen-new-videos-october-25-2008/
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M*****e 发帖数: 1827 | 32 @@
【在 n***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hanna's rumba walks are terrible.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 33 yes, i am going! I posted that under a different thread... Are you coming?
【在 i**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : they will perform at Columbia comp Dec 6, you can go to watch them live.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 34 回来啦?
【在 n***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hanna's rumba walks are terrible.
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 35 从那个blog里受启发,发现joanna leunis的samba的确和chacha差不多。
top level的dances 可以任意explore rhythm and beats and figures. 她的samba选
择的figures大多属于非典型figures (这是我的造词, 定义为可以通用于几种latin
dances的figures); 这些figures也似乎出现在她的或其他dancers的chacha里。比如,
she is well known for her fast spins. she uses the spins in her samba,
instead of, say, three step turns, which have the typical one-ah-two samba
rhythm. 较少的典型samba figures 和 较少的典型samba rhythm, 加上her execution
of typical samba figures is not impressive (sometimes poor), 导致her sa |
o***n 发帖数: 921 | 36 嗯,说得很有道理,是有点象chacha
不过他们开场那段慢动作,设计得不错
samba
execution
samba
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从那个blog里受启发,发现joanna leunis的samba的确和chacha差不多。 : top level的dances 可以任意explore rhythm and beats and figures. 她的samba选 : 择的figures大多属于非典型figures (这是我的造词, 定义为可以通用于几种latin : dances的figures); 这些figures也似乎出现在她的或其他dancers的chacha里。比如, : she is well known for her fast spins. she uses the spins in her samba, : instead of, say, three step turns, which have the typical one-ah-two samba : rhythm. 较少的典型samba figures 和 较少的典型samba rhythm, 加上her execution : of typical samba figures is not impressive (sometimes poor), 导致her sa
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i**u 发帖数: 213 | 37 yes, probably i will be there. i will come to say hi. but how do we
recognize each other? :)
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes, i am going! I posted that under a different thread... Are you coming?
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s*********l 发帖数: 332 | 38 that is super easy ya. Each of you can just look for a ppmm...
【在 i**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes, probably i will be there. i will come to say hi. but how do we : recognize each other? :)
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i**u 发帖数: 213 | 39 what if we both find you instead?
【在 s*********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : that is super easy ya. Each of you can just look for a ppmm...
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 40 are you going to compete there?
【在 i**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes, probably i will be there. i will come to say hi. but how do we : recognize each other? :)
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c*****5 发帖数: 463 | 41 me 2~~~ah...the regular seat already sold out and i had to get a 2nd row
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 42 i bought the ticket the first day the online ticket link got available.
i am not sure how long an amateur like me can keep dancing (thinking like
this is sad, i know)...i am not sure if slavik and hanna will come again...i
am not sure if i will still be dancing when they do come next time...so i
bought a 1st row ticket as a gift for myself, as "myself" is soaked in the
joy of dancing at the moment. and if i remember it correctly, my birthday
falls around that time :)
【在 c*****5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : me 2~~~ah...the regular seat already sold out and i had to get a 2nd row : seat :S
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w*******g 发帖数: 13 | 43 我更怀念的,是"the legendary Slavik and Joanna (Leunis)"。
想当年,Slavik and Joanna这对金童玉女在20个月内从完全默默无闻一步步攀上了
amateur Latin champions (Blackpool, World, etc.)。震惊世界舞坛。成为多少人
心目中的Heros!后来当听到他们分手的消息,许多人都不敢相信。也有不少人哭了。
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨晚那个blog里的回忆, 让我深深怀念"the legendary slavik and karina".
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 44 那你讲讲当初他们怎么轰动的吧, 我竖起耳朵了
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我更怀念的,是"the legendary Slavik and Joanna (Leunis)"。 : 想当年,Slavik and Joanna这对金童玉女在20个月内从完全默默无闻一步步攀上了 : amateur Latin champions (Blackpool, World, etc.)。震惊世界舞坛。成为多少人 : 心目中的Heros!后来当听到他们分手的消息,许多人都不敢相信。也有不少人哭了。
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w*******g 发帖数: 13 | 45 我当然没办法用什么“万人空巷”之类的形容词来描写那个轰动的场面。但当他们一步
步(每次比赛都比上一次的排名往前推进几名)地在国际大赛中冒出头来的时候,很多
人都在谈论他们的成功故事。每次大赛(IDSF,Blackpool,World,etc.)大家都紧紧地盯
着他们俩,为他们喝彩。我知道他们俩的时候有点晚--他们已经拿到了一、两个世界级
别的冠军了。
记得我的一位来自乌克兰(Slavik来自乌克兰)的跳舞的朋友在电话中眉飞色舞地谈论
他的同胞如何成功。我当时连这个名字都没听说过。不过过了几天,轮到我得意洋洋地
在电话里向他宣称:“我见过他们俩了,而且是在非常近的距离(同一个studio内)看
着他们俩上一位老师的课的。。。”令他大吃一惊。
故事是这样的:那天下午我和舞伴在练舞。当时那个studio里面空空荡荡的,没什么人
。因为当天在我们那个地方有一个比赛,人大概都跑到赛场去了。我们没有去,因为那
不是collegiate的比赛。然后就来了三个人,一个胖胖的老师和一对学生,开始上课。
我们早就习惯旁边有人上课的情形,一点也没在意。过了一小会儿,我们停下来喝水休
息,同时看看那边上课的人
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那你讲讲当初他们怎么轰动的吧, 我竖起耳朵了
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o***n 发帖数: 921 | 46 hey! keep dancing! make it a life long hobby!
btw, pre-happy birthday!
.i
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i bought the ticket the first day the online ticket link got available. : i am not sure how long an amateur like me can keep dancing (thinking like : this is sad, i know)...i am not sure if slavik and hanna will come again...i : am not sure if i will still be dancing when they do come next time...so i : bought a 1st row ticket as a gift for myself, as "myself" is soaked in the : joy of dancing at the moment. and if i remember it correctly, my birthday : falls around that time :)
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o***n 发帖数: 921 | 47 好听好听!
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我当然没办法用什么“万人空巷”之类的形容词来描写那个轰动的场面。但当他们一步 : 步(每次比赛都比上一次的排名往前推进几名)地在国际大赛中冒出头来的时候,很多 : 人都在谈论他们的成功故事。每次大赛(IDSF,Blackpool,World,etc.)大家都紧紧地盯 : 着他们俩,为他们喝彩。我知道他们俩的时候有点晚--他们已经拿到了一、两个世界级 : 别的冠军了。 : 记得我的一位来自乌克兰(Slavik来自乌克兰)的跳舞的朋友在电话中眉飞色舞地谈论 : 他的同胞如何成功。我当时连这个名字都没听说过。不过过了几天,轮到我得意洋洋地 : 在电话里向他宣称:“我见过他们俩了,而且是在非常近的距离(同一个studio内)看 : 着他们俩上一位老师的课的。。。”令他大吃一惊。 : 故事是这样的:那天下午我和舞伴在练舞。当时那个studio里面空空荡荡的,没什么人
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w***5 发帖数: 8282 | 48 你的故事使我想起第一次遇到SLAVIK。那晚是LATIN SHOWDANCE,SLAVIK,MICHAEL
WINTINK,BRYAN WASTON 都在名单上.那时偶从老师那只知道 MICHAEL WINTINK、BEATA
是高手,对SLAVIK和BRYAN一概不知,看到一个高手在热身,偶提着相机,情不自禁地
走上前,问他是不是michael wintink, 他说不是,手指着另一对选手说他才是michael
,我与michael和beata合了影,后来才知道这个英俊小生是slavik,他的舞姿潇洒,可
惜没有和他合影,不然与slavik、karina的合影留到现在也是挺有意义的。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我当然没办法用什么“万人空巷”之类的形容词来描写那个轰动的场面。但当他们一步 : 步(每次比赛都比上一次的排名往前推进几名)地在国际大赛中冒出头来的时候,很多 : 人都在谈论他们的成功故事。每次大赛(IDSF,Blackpool,World,etc.)大家都紧紧地盯 : 着他们俩,为他们喝彩。我知道他们俩的时候有点晚--他们已经拿到了一、两个世界级 : 别的冠军了。 : 记得我的一位来自乌克兰(Slavik来自乌克兰)的跳舞的朋友在电话中眉飞色舞地谈论 : 他的同胞如何成功。我当时连这个名字都没听说过。不过过了几天,轮到我得意洋洋地 : 在电话里向他宣称:“我见过他们俩了,而且是在非常近的距离(同一个studio内)看 : 着他们俩上一位老师的课的。。。”令他大吃一惊。 : 故事是这样的:那天下午我和舞伴在练舞。当时那个studio里面空空荡荡的,没什么人
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 49 wow, my ears are really enjoying hearing the story...
i just checked their results and it is true that they had very fast
advancement. it must have been very breath taking to witness them advance...
let me watch again the few of their clips...
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我当然没办法用什么“万人空巷”之类的形容词来描写那个轰动的场面。但当他们一步 : 步(每次比赛都比上一次的排名往前推进几名)地在国际大赛中冒出头来的时候,很多 : 人都在谈论他们的成功故事。每次大赛(IDSF,Blackpool,World,etc.)大家都紧紧地盯 : 着他们俩,为他们喝彩。我知道他们俩的时候有点晚--他们已经拿到了一、两个世界级 : 别的冠军了。 : 记得我的一位来自乌克兰(Slavik来自乌克兰)的跳舞的朋友在电话中眉飞色舞地谈论 : 他的同胞如何成功。我当时连这个名字都没听说过。不过过了几天,轮到我得意洋洋地 : 在电话里向他宣称:“我见过他们俩了,而且是在非常近的距离(同一个studio内)看 : 着他们俩上一位老师的课的。。。”令他大吃一惊。 : 故事是这样的:那天下午我和舞伴在练舞。当时那个studio里面空空荡荡的,没什么人
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 50 thx...that is my wish, too. just hope it can come true...
【在 o***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hey! keep dancing! make it a life long hobby! : btw, pre-happy birthday! : : .i
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a***e 发帖数: 2094 | 51 then show us your pic with wentink and beata!
BEATA
michael
【在 w***5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的故事使我想起第一次遇到SLAVIK。那晚是LATIN SHOWDANCE,SLAVIK,MICHAEL : WINTINK,BRYAN WASTON 都在名单上.那时偶从老师那只知道 MICHAEL WINTINK、BEATA : 是高手,对SLAVIK和BRYAN一概不知,看到一个高手在热身,偶提着相机,情不自禁地 : 走上前,问他是不是michael wintink, 他说不是,手指着另一对选手说他才是michael : ,我与michael和beata合了影,后来才知道这个英俊小生是slavik,他的舞姿潇洒,可 : 惜没有和他合影,不然与slavik、karina的合影留到现在也是挺有意义的。
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