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l********n
发帖数: 35 | 1 我的情况：EB2，I-140已批，I-485 RD 8/19/2011，EAD和AP已批，但公司昨天通知这
周五（12/2/2011）最后一天。
仔细读了PJ大作485PENDING换工作的180天，有一事仍不解。在风险中PJ提到 “3) 尽
管雇主没有撤回 I-140，如果 180 天之内提交的 I-485 在移民局手里有了裁决，你也
就不幸死翘翘了。”但后面您又提到“如果你在 I-485 提交 180 天之内丢了工作，情
况不象你想象的那么糟。很显然是雇主没有给你一个永久为他工作的机会，在 I-485
裁决的时候你只要有个新的相同或相似的职位，就足够了。”。
我想问各们的是：如果我马上找到工作，而且现雇主不withdraw我已批的140，但移民
局在180天内裁决，我会有被拒的风险吗？还有如果现雇主不withdraw140，但通知
USCIS我的职位取消，会对我的485申请有致使影响吗？
现在正和公司谈relocate到其它办公室，但公司如果愿意relocate，要签几年卖身，早
走要还回所有薪水，但好象对我而言，呆在同一个公司身份风险最小。现也有其它一些
意向，但不知道身份的风险有多大。
敬请各位赐教 | s******t
发帖数: 1672 | 2 ＰＪ “死翘翘”那局话说的不明白。
但是只要不是你主动辞职，又得罪人，雇主很少做绝撤销你的１４０。
交４８５后１８０内可以换工作，只要是工作性质相近就好，没问题。特别是你ＥＡＤ
已批。你只要找到工作就好。
【在 l********n 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况：EB2，I-140已批，I-485 RD 8/19/2011，EAD和AP已批，但公司昨天通知这
: 周五（12/2/2011）最后一天。
: 仔细读了PJ大作485PENDING换工作的180天，有一事仍不解。在风险中PJ提到 “3) 尽
: 管雇主没有撤回 I-140，如果 180 天之内提交的 I-485 在移民局手里有了裁决，你也
: 就不幸死翘翘了。”但后面您又提到“如果你在 I-485 提交 180 天之内丢了工作，情
: 况不象你想象的那么糟。很显然是雇主没有给你一个永久为他工作的机会，在 I-485
: 裁决的时候你只要有个新的相同或相似的职位，就足够了。”。
: 我想问各们的是：如果我马上找到工作，而且现雇主不withdraw我已批的140，但移民
: 局在180天内裁决，我会有被拒的风险吗？还有如果现雇主不withdraw140，但通知
: USCIS我的职位取消，会对我的485申请有致使影响吗？
| p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 3 +1
【在 s******t 的大作中提到】
: ＰＪ “死翘翘”那局话说的不明白。
: 但是只要不是你主动辞职，又得罪人，雇主很少做绝撤销你的１４０。
: 交４８５后１８０内可以换工作，只要是工作性质相近就好，没问题。特别是你ＥＡＤ
: 已批。你只要找到工作就好。
| l********n
发帖数: 35 | 4 ding!
【在 l********n 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况：EB2，I-140已批，I-485 RD 8/19/2011，EAD和AP已批，但公司昨天通知这
: 周五（12/2/2011）最后一天。
: 仔细读了PJ大作485PENDING换工作的180天，有一事仍不解。在风险中PJ提到 “3) 尽
: 管雇主没有撤回 I-140，如果 180 天之内提交的 I-485 在移民局手里有了裁决，你也
: 就不幸死翘翘了。”但后面您又提到“如果你在 I-485 提交 180 天之内丢了工作，情
: 况不象你想象的那么糟。很显然是雇主没有给你一个永久为他工作的机会，在 I-485
: 裁决的时候你只要有个新的相同或相似的职位，就足够了。”。
: 我想问各们的是：如果我马上找到工作，而且现雇主不withdraw我已批的140，但移民
: 局在180天内裁决，我会有被拒的风险吗？还有如果现雇主不withdraw140，但通知
: USCIS我的职位取消，会对我的485申请有致使影响吗？
| W**t
发帖数: 27 | 5 AC21讲提交I-485然后180天后可以换工作，而且所换工作必须是相似或相近领域。若在180天内被裁，要看移民官的理解，理论上讲若是自己主动在180天内换工作，则AC21无法成立。
我听到有case是在I485提交后180天内被裁，而I-485最后照样被批。若较起真来，估计不同的移民官会有不同的裁决。（我个人的理解）
现雇主没有必要去withdraw140，你可以要求公司律师不要withdrawI-140，但若你还有H1B，则公司必须依法律要求通知移民局该H1B已经不存在。而这个不一定会影响到你的移民申请。看中间有多大的关联度或巧合。
对于绿卡而言，若你的排期已经current或很近，则最好委屈求全，能尽量争取留在公司。哪怕是halfpay
若relocate到同一公司但不同的地方，你有可能需要重新申请perm和I140。但若在同一公司，同一地方，若工作性质相同或近似，再好不过。
当然，因为你的绿卡是以employment为基础的，倘或移民官在你被裁的这段时间里碰到你的case，
一旦索要雇佣证明，而你拿不出，那I-485十有八九被拒，但你有新工作，但180天的要求没有满足，我想有些移民官可能还是会批你的485。
问问PJiang老师，我也是一知半解
【在 l********n 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况：EB2，I-140已批，I-485 RD 8/19/2011，EAD和AP已批，但公司昨天通知这
: 周五（12/2/2011）最后一天。
: 仔细读了PJ大作485PENDING换工作的180天，有一事仍不解。在风险中PJ提到 “3) 尽
: 管雇主没有撤回 I-140，如果 180 天之内提交的 I-485 在移民局手里有了裁决，你也
: 就不幸死翘翘了。”但后面您又提到“如果你在 I-485 提交 180 天之内丢了工作，情
: 况不象你想象的那么糟。很显然是雇主没有给你一个永久为他工作的机会，在 I-485
: 裁决的时候你只要有个新的相同或相似的职位，就足够了。”。
: 我想问各们的是：如果我马上找到工作，而且现雇主不withdraw我已批的140，但移民
: 局在180天内裁决，我会有被拒的风险吗？还有如果现雇主不withdraw140，但通知
: USCIS我的职位取消，会对我的485申请有致使影响吗？
| W**t
发帖数: 27 | 6 Interoffice****memorandum
12/27/2005
USCISwebsite
Question 11. When is an I-140 no longer valid for porting purposes?
Answer: An I-140 is no longer valid for porting purposes when:
A. an I-140 is withdrawn before the alien’s I-485 has been pending 180 days
, or
B. an I-140 is denied or revoked at any time except when it is revoked based
on a withdrawal
that was submitted after an I-485 has been pending for 180 days.
Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions
and I-485 and H-1B petitions affected
by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (
AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
Page 5
Question 12. Can the 180 days that an I-485 application must be pending for
I-140
portability eligibility accrue during a period when visa numbers are
unavailable?
Answer: Yes. The fact that a visa number becomes unavailable after the
filing of the I-485 application
does not stop the number of days required for I-140 portability eligibility
from accruing.
在180天内被裁，要看移民官的理解，理论上讲若是自己主动在180天内换工作，则AC21
无法成立。
计不同的移民官会有不同的裁决。（我个人的理解）
有H1B，则公司必须依法律要求通知移民局该H1B已经不存在。而这个不一定会影响到你
的移民申请。看中间有多大的关联度或巧合。
公司。哪怕是halfpay
一公司，同一地方，若工作性质相同或近似，再好不过。
到你的case，
要求没有满足，我想有些移民官可能还是会批你的485。
【在 W**t 的大作中提到】
: AC21讲提交I-485然后180天后可以换工作，而且所换工作必须是相似或相近领域。若在180天内被裁，要看移民官的理解，理论上讲若是自己主动在180天内换工作，则AC21无法成立。
: 我听到有case是在I485提交后180天内被裁，而I-485最后照样被批。若较起真来，估计不同的移民官会有不同的裁决。（我个人的理解）
: 现雇主没有必要去withdraw140，你可以要求公司律师不要withdrawI-140，但若你还有H1B，则公司必须依法律要求通知移民局该H1B已经不存在。而这个不一定会影响到你的移民申请。看中间有多大的关联度或巧合。
: 对于绿卡而言，若你的排期已经current或很近，则最好委屈求全，能尽量争取留在公司。哪怕是halfpay
: 若relocate到同一公司但不同的地方，你有可能需要重新申请perm和I140。但若在同一公司，同一地方，若工作性质相同或近似，再好不过。
: 当然，因为你的绿卡是以employment为基础的，倘或移民官在你被裁的这段时间里碰到你的case，
: 一旦索要雇佣证明，而你拿不出，那I-485十有八九被拒，但你有新工作，但180天的要求没有满足，我想有些移民官可能还是会批你的485。
: 问问PJiang老师，我也是一知半解
| W**t
发帖数: 27 | 7 USCIS website 很老的文件，for*reference
MEMORANDUM FOR SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS, BCIS
REGIONAL DIRECTORS, BCIS
Continuing Validity of Form I-140 Petition in accordance with Section 106(c)
of
the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21)
(AD03-16)
August 4, 2003
A. Approved Form I-140 Visa Petitions and Form I-485 Applications
The AC21 §106(c) states:
A petition under subsection (a)(1)(D) [since re-designated section 204(a)(1)
(F) of the
Act] for an individual whose application for adjustment of status pursuant
to section 245 has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or
more shall remain valid with respect to a new job if the individual changes
jobs or employers if the new job is in the same or a similar occupational
classification as the job for which the petition was filed.
Accordingly, guidance in the June 19, 2001, memorandum provides that the
labor
certification or approval of a Form I-140 employment-based (EB) immigrant
petition shallremain valid when an alien changes jobs, if:
(a) A Form I-485, Application to Adjust Status, on the basis of the EB
immigrant petition has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180
days or more; and
(b) The new job is in the same or similar occupational classification as the
job
for which the certification or approval was initially made.
This policy is still in effect and has not changed as a result of
implementation of the concurrent filing process.
If the Form I-140 (“immigrant petition”) has been approved and the Form I-
485
(“adjustment application”) has been filed and remained unadjudicated for
180 days or more (as measured from the Form I-485 receipt date), the
approved Form I-140 will remain valid even if the alien changes jobs or
employers as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar
occupation.1 If the Form I-485 has been pending for less than 180 days, then
the approved Form I-140 shall not remain valid with respect to a new offer
of employment.
B. Provisions in Cases of Revocation of the Approved Form I-140
1AC21 also provides that any underlying labor certification also remains
valid if the
conditions of §106(c) are satisfied.
Memorandum for Regional Directors, et. al.
Subject: Guidance for Processing Form I-485 in Accordance with Section 106(c
) of AC21
Page 3
As discussed above, if an alien is the beneficiary of an approved Form I-140
and is alsothe beneficiary of a Form I-485 that has been pending 180 days
or longer, then the approved Form I-140 remains valid with respect to a new
offer of employment under the flexibility provisions of §106(c) of AC21.
Accordingly, if the employer withdraws the approved Form I-140 on or after
the date that the Form I-485 has been pending 180 days, the approved Form I-
140 shall remain valid under the provisions of §106(c) of AC21. It is
expected that the alien will have submitted evidence to the office having
jurisdiction over the pending Form I-485 that the new offer of employment is
in the same or similar occupational classification as the offer of
employment for which the
petition was filed. Accordingly, if the underlying approved Form I-140 is
withdrawn, and the alien has not submitted evidence of a new qualifying
offer of employment, the adjudicating officer must issue a Notice of Intent
to Deny the pending Form I-485. See 8 CFR 103.2(b)(16)(i). If the evidence
of a new qualifying offer of employment submitted in response to the Notice
of Intent to Deny is timely filed and it appears that the alien has a new
offer ofemployment in the same or similar occupation, the BCIS may consider
the approved Form I-140 to remain valid with respect to the new offer of
employment and may continue regular processing of the Form I-485. If the
applicant responds to the Notice of Intent to Deny, but has not established
that the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupation, the
adjudicating officer may immediately deny the Form I-485. If the alien does
not respond or fails to timely respond to the Notice of Intent to Deny, the
adjudicating officer may immediately deny the Form I-485.
If approval of the Form I-140 is revoked or the Form I-140 is withdrawn
before the
alien’s Form I-485 has been pending 180 days, the approved Form I-140 is no
longer valid with respect to a new offer of employment and the Form I-485
may be denied. If at any time the BCIS revokes approval of the Form I-140
based on fraud, the alien will not be eligible for the job flexibility
provisions of §106(c) of AC21 and the adjudicating officer may, in his or
her discretion, deny the attached Form I-485 immediately. In all cases an
offer of employment must
have been bona fide, and the employer must have had the intent, at the time
the Form I-140 was approved, to employ the beneficiary upon adjustment. It
should be noted that there is no requirement in statute or regulations that
a beneficiary of a Form I-140 actually be in the underlying employment until
permanent residence is authorized. Therefore, it is possible for analien to
qualify for the provisions of §106(c) of AC21 even if he or she has never
been employed by the prior petitioning employer or the subsequent employer
under section 204(j) of the Act.
Questions regarding this memorandum may be directed via e-mail through
appropriate
channels to Joe Holliday at Service Center Operations or to Mari Johnson in
Program and
Regulation Development.
days
based
【在 W**t 的大作中提到】
: Interoffice****memorandum
: 12/27/2005
: USCISwebsite
: Question 11. When is an I-140 no longer valid for porting purposes?
: Answer: An I-140 is no longer valid for porting purposes when:
: A. an I-140 is withdrawn before the alien’s I-485 has been pending 180 days
: , or
: B. an I-140 is denied or revoked at any time except when it is revoked based
: on a withdrawal
: that was submitted after an I-485 has been pending for 180 days.
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