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发帖数: 61690 | 1 Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) is the big prize in the quest for more than 70
votes for immigration reform, but the Gang of Eight is split over whether he
’s worth wooing.
Cornyn told Republican colleagues at a meeting Wednesday that he would
consider making changes to his amendment to bolster the border-security
provisions of the Senate bill.
His willingness to negotiate left some Republicans convinced after the
meeting that he would strike a deal with the Gang of Eight and vote for
final passage. His support would help the legislation pass overwhelmingly.
Republican members on the Gang of Eight think he is a gettable vote, even
though they acknowledge some of their Democratic colleagues are skeptical.
Democrats strongly doubt Cornyn will vote "yes," given his past record of
opposing immigration reform plans.
“What I’m hoping is that we can negotiate with Sen. Cornyn to the point
where we can get an agreement. We continue to talk,” said Sen. John McCain
(R-Ariz.), a leader of the gang.
Cornyn said he’s willing to modify proposal but will not concede on what he
calls its "fundamental substance."
“There are certain elements that are non-negotiable, specifically the
mechanism by which we would guarantee the security measures in the bill
would actually be implemented,” he said.
The bill’s authors are also negotiating with Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and
John Hoeven (R-N.D.), but neither of those lawmakers have the same
authority as Cornyn on border security.
A Republican senator who is wavering over whether to support the bill said
Cornyn’s vote would bring along a large group of colleagues because Cornyn
is the Republican whip and represents a border state.
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) suggested earlier in the
week that his vote and the support of other Republicans could be contingent
on the fate of Cornyn’s proposals.
“Sen. Cornyn, I think, has got, in my view, the key amendment to put us in
a position where we can actually look at the American people with a straight
face and say we are going to secure the border,” McConnell told reporters
earlier this week. “That's going to be a very, very important amendment.”
The legislation needs only 60 votes to pass the Senate. It appeared to have
that many Thursday after Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), a conservative Democrat
said he was inclined to vote for the bill, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska
) voted to table an amendment sponsored by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa),
which Democrats characterized as a “poison pill.”
The bill’s authors want it to pass with at least 70 votes because that
would give House Republicans political cover to support comprehensive
immigration reform.
Democrats on the Gang of Eight say Cornyn is demanding changes that would
delay the path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants for too
long.
“If Cornyn was willing to vote for it, the bill would be so watered down
that any Republican would vote for it. That’s not an outcome we’re
interested in,” said a Democratic aide to a member of the gang.
Republicans argue that Cornyn’s RESULTS amendment to secure the border is
not radically different from language already in the bill. Both Cornyn’s
proposal and the broader bill call for 100-percent monitoring and a 90-
percent apprehension rate of illegal entrants along the Southern border. The
crucial difference is that Cornyn’s amendment would require these goals be
met before an estimated 11 million immigrants receive permanent legal
status in 10 years.
While Democrats say publicly they are confident those border-security
benchmarks will be met, they are not so confident as to make them the
trigger for granting permanent legal status to millions of people. Cornyn’s
amendment would also require using biometric data at air and sea ports at
which U.S. Customs and Border Protection personnel are deployed.
Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the lead Democratic sponsor of the immigration
bill, spoke out against Cornyn’s amendment on the Senate floor.
Schumer argued that Cornyn’s goals for border security are not specific
enough.
“We certainly can improve the border, but we cannot improve the border and
put in place triggers that are not specific and achievable,” Schumer said.
“You can measure whether there are 20 drones at the border. Your can
measure whether we have X miles of fence. But if you say then that [
effectiveness] has to be at this certain rate every year, you’re taking
away the path to citizenship.”
Republicans interpreted Schumer’s comments more as an effort to gain
leverage in private talks than an outright dismissal of Cornyn’s proposal.
“I think they were trying to discourage my amendment, but this is not about
me, it’s about getting a workable solution and not just making promises
that won’t be kept,” Cornyn said. “That’s important to the ultimate
success of any immigration reform legislation and the number of people who
are likely to support it.”
Cornyn said he has spoken to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a pivotal member of
the Gang of Eight, but is not working with him on an alternative amendment
to strengthen border security.
Rubio is in charge of selling immigration reform to conservatives, but many
of them have grown skeptical of his assurances on border security because of
his close affiliation with Schumer over the last several months.
“As those following the Schumer-Rubio medicine show have heard, amnesty for
the illegal population would require only that Janet Napolitano’s
Department of Homeland Security submit a plan to control the border,” Mark
Krikorian, a conservative critic of the legislation, wrote on National
Review Online earlier this month.
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/305533-cornyn-emerges-as-key-to-unlocking-70-plus-votes-for-immigration-reform#ixzz2WDR0C8yK
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发帖数: 367 | 2 God, this is a good news, thanks for sharing! | C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 3 等2nd degree吧，这老头上次果然提了什么达不到的Trigger了，弄得Rubio最后都不和
他玩了。 | V**3
发帖数: 12756 | 4 恰恰说错了，这不是个好消息
如果cornyn不改初衷，民主党反而能有更多的讨价还价的余地，争取更多共和党支持现
有法案-- 他们可以说cornyn的修正案太harsh，来博取中间派共和党的同情。
现在cornyn 说愿意妥协，一起修改它的修正案,可是民主党压根不想控制边界（越来越
多的老莫尽来，是符合民主党的利益的）， 在这种情况下，cornyn 把自己放在了委曲
求全的位置上，反而成了cornyn 博取同情。 现在球在民主党脚下，他们不妥协的话，
house共和党更会被激怒，（他们会理解成你们丫的一点都不想控制边界）。 控制边
界这个事情，cornyn 作为边界州的代表，确实有独特的authority， 这点如果民主党
不正视， 现有法案希望渺茫。
所以说cornyn 是个老狐狸，现在民主党的棋不好下。如果民主党以为自己胜券在握，
不用妥协的话，控枪法案的命运就是前车之鉴。
【在 s********c 的大作中提到】
: God, this is a good news, thanks for sharing!
| b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 5 Schumer argued that Cornyn’s goals for border security are not specific
enough.
“We certainly can improve the border, but we cannot improve the border and
put in place triggers that are not specific and achievable,” Schumer said.
“You can measure whether there are 20 drones at the border. Your can
measure whether we have X miles of fence. But if you say then that [
effectiveness] has to be at this certain rate every year, you’re taking
away the path to citizenship.”
Republicans interpreted Schumer’s comments more as an effort to gain
leverage in private talks than an outright dismissal of Cornyn’s proposal.
“I think they were trying to discourage my amendment, but this is not about
me, it’s about getting a workable solution and not just making promises
that won’t be kept,” Cornyn said. “That’s important to the ultimate
success of any immigration reform legislation and the number of people who
are likely to support it.”
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: 恰恰说错了，这不是个好消息
: 如果cornyn不改初衷，民主党反而能有更多的讨价还价的余地，争取更多共和党支持现
: 有法案-- 他们可以说cornyn的修正案太harsh，来博取中间派共和党的同情。
: 现在cornyn 说愿意妥协，一起修改它的修正案,可是民主党压根不想控制边界（越来越
: 多的老莫尽来，是符合民主党的利益的）， 在这种情况下，cornyn 把自己放在了委曲
: 求全的位置上，反而成了cornyn 博取同情。 现在球在民主党脚下，他们不妥协的话，
: house共和党更会被激怒，（他们会理解成你们丫的一点都不想控制边界）。 控制边
: 界这个事情，cornyn 作为边界州的代表，确实有独特的authority， 这点如果民主党
: 不正视， 现有法案希望渺茫。
: 所以说cornyn 是个老狐狸，现在民主党的棋不好下。如果民主党以为自己胜券在握，
| e****s
发帖数: 1125 | 6 太扯淡了。
就是利好，没那么多阴谋论，双方愿意往中间靠就是利好！
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: 恰恰说错了，这不是个好消息
: 如果cornyn不改初衷，民主党反而能有更多的讨价还价的余地，争取更多共和党支持现
: 有法案-- 他们可以说cornyn的修正案太harsh，来博取中间派共和党的同情。
: 现在cornyn 说愿意妥协，一起修改它的修正案,可是民主党压根不想控制边界（越来越
: 多的老莫尽来，是符合民主党的利益的）， 在这种情况下，cornyn 把自己放在了委曲
: 求全的位置上，反而成了cornyn 博取同情。 现在球在民主党脚下，他们不妥协的话，
: house共和党更会被激怒，（他们会理解成你们丫的一点都不想控制边界）。 控制边
: 界这个事情，cornyn 作为边界州的代表，确实有独特的authority， 这点如果民主党
: 不正视， 现有法案希望渺茫。
: 所以说cornyn 是个老狐狸，现在民主党的棋不好下。如果民主党以为自己胜券在握，
| s***y
发帖数: 1130 | 7 一件事，从有人唱好或者唱衰。
关键是，在这里无论唱好还是唱衰，都对最终结果没有影响……你就让他说呗
【在 e****s 的大作中提到】
: 太扯淡了。
: 就是利好，没那么多阴谋论，双方愿意往中间靠就是利好！
| w*l
发帖数: 933 | 8 “We certainly can improve the border, but we cannot improve the border and
put in place triggers that are not specific and achievable,” Schumer said.
这是Schumer在暗示修正案应该再“specific and achievable”一些？
and
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: Schumer argued that Cornyn’s goals for border security are not specific
: enough.
: “We certainly can improve the border, but we cannot improve the border and
: put in place triggers that are not specific and achievable,” Schumer said.
: “You can measure whether there are 20 drones at the border. Your can
: measure whether we have X miles of fence. But if you say then that [
: effectiveness] has to be at this certain rate every year, you’re taking
: away the path to citizenship.”
: Republicans interpreted Schumer’s comments more as an effort to gain
: leverage in private talks than an outright dismissal of Cornyn’s proposal.
| V**3
发帖数: 12756 | 9 以为利好的都是以为cornyn 真心想“往中间靠”
都太嫩了
不过是做个姿态而已
【在 e****s 的大作中提到】
: 太扯淡了。
: 就是利好，没那么多阴谋论，双方愿意往中间靠就是利好！
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