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发帖数: 4704 | 3 Remarks by the President on Border Security and Immigration Reform
2014-07-01 13:59:25.565 GMT
June 30, 2014 (Federal Information & News Dispatch)
Rose Garden
3:04 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody. One year ago
this month, senators of both parties --- with support from the
business, labor, law enforcement, faith communities --- came
together to pass a commonsense immigration bill.
Independent experts said that bill would strengthen our
borders, grow our economy, shrink our deficits. As we speak,
there are enough Republicans and Democrats in the House to pass
an immigration bill today. I would sign it into law today, and
Washington would solve a problem in a bipartisan way.
But for more than a year, Republicans in the House of
Representatives have refused to allow an up-or-down vote on
that Senate bill or any legislation to fix our broken
immigration system. And I held off on pressuring them for a
long time to give Speaker Boehner the space he needed to get
his fellow Republicans on board.
Meanwhile, here's what a year of obstruction has meant. It
has meant fewer resources to strengthen our borders. It's meant
more businesses free to game the system by hiring undocumented
workers, which punishes businesses that play by the rules, and
drives down wages for hardworking Americans. It's meant lost
talent when the best and brightest from around the world come
to study here but are forced to leave and then compete against
our businesses and our workers. It's meant no chance for 11
million immigrants to come out of the shadows and earn their
citizenship if they pay a penalty and pass a background check,
pay their fair share of taxes, learn English, and go to the
back of the line. It's meant the heartbreak of separated
families.
That's what this obstruction has meant over the past year.
That's what the Senate bill would fix if the House allowed it
to go to a vote.
Our country and our economy would be stronger today if
House Republicans had allowed a simple yes-or-no vote on this
bill or, for that matter, any bill. They'd be following the
will of the majority of the American people who support reform.
Instead, they've proven again and again that they're unwilling
to stand up to the tea party in order to do what's best for the
country. And the worst part about it is a bunch of them know
better.
We now have an actual humanitarian crisis on the border
that only underscores the need to drop the politics and fix our
immigration system once and for all. In recent weeks, we've
seen a surge of unaccompanied children arrive at the border,
brought here and to other countries by smugglers and
traffickers.
The journey is unbelievably dangerous for these kids. The
children who are fortunate enough to survive it will be taken
care of while they go through the legal process, but in most
cases that process will lead to them being sent back home. I've
sent a clear message to parents in these countries not to put
their kids through this. I recently sent Vice President Biden
to meet with Central American leaders and find ways to address
the root causes of this crisis. Secretary Kerry will also be
meeting with those leaders again tomorrow. With our
international partners, we're taking new steps to go after the
dangerous smugglers who are putting thousands of children's
lives at risk.
Today, I sent a letter to congressional leaders asking
that they work with me to address the urgent humanitarian
challenge on the border, and support the immigration and Border
Patrol agents who already apprehend and deport hundreds of
thousands of undocumented immigrants every year. And
understand, by the way, for the most part, this is not a
situation where these children are slipping through. They're
being apprehended. But the problem is, is that our system is so
broken, so unclear that folks don't know what the rules are.
Now, understand --- there are a number of Republicans who
have been willing to work with us to pass real, commonsense
immigration reform, and I want to thank them for their efforts.
There are a number of Republican leaders in the Senate who did
excellent work and deserve our thanks. And less visibly, there
have been folks in the House who have been trying to work to
get this done. And quietly, because it doesn't always help me
to praise them, I've expressed to them how much I appreciate
the efforts that they've made.
I believe Speaker Boehner when he says he wants to pass an
immigration bill. I think he genuinely wants to get something
done. But last week, he informed me that Republicans will
continue to block a vote on immigration reform at least for the
remainder of this year. Some in the House Republican Caucus are
using the situation with unaccompanied children as their newest
excuse to do nothing. Now, I want everybody to think about
that. Their argument seems to be that because the system is
broken, we shouldn't make an effort to fix it. It makes no
sense. It's not on the level. It's just politics, plain and
simple.
Now, there are others in the Republican Caucus in the
House who are arguing that they can't act because they're mad
at me about using my executive authority too broadly. This also
makes no sense. I don't prefer taking administrative action.
I'd rather see permanent fixes to the issue we face. Certainly
that's true on immigration. I've made that clear multiple
times. I would love nothing more than bipartisan legislation to
pass the House, the Senate, land on my desk so I can sign it.
That's true about immigration, that's true about the minimum
wage, it's true about equal pay. There are a whole bunch of
things where I would greatly prefer Congress actually do
something. I take executive action only when we have a serious
problem, a serious issue, and Congress chooses to do nothing.
And in this situation, the failure of House Republicans to pass
a darn bill is bad for our security, it's bad for our economy,
and it's bad for our future.
So while I will continue to push House Republicans to drop
the excuses and act --- and I hope their constituents will too -
-- America cannot wait forever for them to act. And that's why,
today, I'm beginning a new effort to fix as much of our
immigration system as I can on my own, without Congress. As a
first step, I'm directing the Secretary of Homeland Security
and the Attorney General to move available and appropriate
resources from our interior to the border. Protecting public
safety and deporting dangerous criminals has been and will
remain the top priority, but we are going to refocus our
efforts where we can to make sure we do what it takes to keep
our border secure.
I have also directed Secretary Johnson and Attorney
General Holder to identify additional actions my administration
can take on our own, within my existing legal authorities, to
do what Congress refuses to do and fix as much of our
immigration system as we can. If Congress will not do their
job, at least we can do ours. I expect their recommendations
before the end of summer and I intend to adopt those
recommendations without further delay.
Of course, even with aggressive steps on my part,
administrative action alone will not adequately address the
problem. The reforms that will do the most to strengthen our
businesses, our workers, and our entire economy will still
require an act of Congress. And I repeat: These are reforms
that already enjoy the wide support of the American people.
It's very rare where you get labor, business, evangelicals, law
enforcement all agreeing on what needs to be done. And at some
point, that should be enough. Normally, that is enough. The
point of public service is to solve public problems. And those
of us who have the privilege to serve have a responsibility to
do everything in our power to keep Americans safe and to keep
the doors of opportunity open.
And if we do, then one year from now, not only would our
economy and our security be stronger, but maybe the best and
the brightest from around the world who come study here would
stay and create jobs here. Maybe companies that play by the
rules will no longer be undercut by companies that don't. Maybe
more families who've been living here for years, whose children
are often U.S. citizens, who are our neighbors and our friends,
whose children are our kids' friends and go to school with
them, and play on ball teams with them, maybe those families
would get to stay together. But much of this only happens if
Americans continue to push Congress to get this done.
So I've told Speaker Boehner that even as I take those
steps that I can within my existing legal authorities to make
the immigration system work better, I'm going to continue to
reach out to House Republicans in the hope that they deliver a
more permanent solution with a comprehensive bill. Maybe it
will be after the midterms, when they're less worried about
politics. Maybe it will be next year. Whenever it is, they will
find me a willing partner. I have been consistent in saying
that I am prepared to work with them even on a bill that I
don't consider perfect. And the Senate bill was a good example
of the capacity to compromise and get this done. The only thing
I can't do is stand by and do nothing while waiting for them to
get their act together.
And I want to repeat what I said earlier. If House
Republicans are really concerned about me taking too many
executive actions, the best solution to that is passing bills.
Pass a bill; solve a problem. Don't just say no on something
that everybody agrees needs to be done. Because if we pass a
bill, that will supplant whatever I've done administratively.
We'll have a structure there that works, and it will be
permanent. And people can make plans and businesses can make
plans based on the law. And there will be clarity both here
inside this country and outside it.
Let me just close by saying Friday is the Fourth of July.
It's the day we celebrate our independence and all the things
that make this country so great. And each year, Michelle and I
host a few hundred servicemembers and wounded warriors and
their families right here on the lawn for a barbecue and
fireworks on the Mall.
And some of the servicemembers coming this year are unique
because they signed up to serve, to sacrifice, potentially to
give their lives for the security of this country even though
they weren't yet Americans. That's how much they love this
country. They were prepared to fight and die for an America
they did not yet fully belong to. I think they've earned their
stripes in more ways than one. And that's why on Friday morning
we're going to naturalize them in a ceremony right here at the
White House. This Independence Day will be their first day as
American citizens.
One of the things we celebrate on Friday --- one of the
things that make this country great --- is that we are a nation
of immigrants. Our people come from every corner of the globe.
That's what makes us special. That's what makes us unique. And
throughout our history, we've come here in wave after wave from
everywhere understanding that there was something about this
place where the whole was greater than the sum of its parts;
that all the different cultures and ideas and energy would come
together and create something new.
We won this country's freedom together. We built this
country together. We defended this country together. It makes
us special. It makes us strong. It makes us Americans. That's
worth celebrating. And that's what I want not just House
Republicans but all of us as Americans to remember.
Thanks very much.
END
3:21 P.M. EDT
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y******u
发帖数: 1181 | |
t*******g
发帖数: 1518 | 5 obama is the worst!
【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 对我们有帮助吗？
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 6 美国政府分国会，行政，司法三个部门。总统是行政机构的头，而移民事物主要归国会
管，总统在立法上只有否决权。国会不Move，总统也没辙。总统要权力真那么大，在移
民这个本届政府一号工程上还用得着求着国会吗？自己Move On就行了。 |
i**y
发帖数: 1170 | 7 oh, but you said 2007 failed immigration reform is Bush's responsibility.
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 美国政府分国会，行政，司法三个部门。总统是行政机构的头，而移民事物主要归国会
: 管，总统在立法上只有否决权。国会不Move，总统也没辙。总统要权力真那么大，在移
: 民这个本届政府一号工程上还用得着求着国会吗？自己Move On就行了。
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d****u
发帖数: 1373 | 8 嗯呢，今早看新闻说新鲜出炉的民调显示正是如此～
【在 t*******g 的大作中提到】
: obama is the worst!
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 9 我可没那么说，可能您记性不好。我还是给了小布什Credit，但贵党的STEM之友们实在
不咋地：
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/32121367_0.html
发信人: tomnjerry (tom jerry), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: 突然发现奥巴马搞得移民改革祸国殃民
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 6 00:52:41 2014, 美东)
小布什当总统的时候，2007年也有过一次轰轰烈烈的移民改革提案，内容基本和今年一
样：Path to Citizen, 强化边界，给高科技绿卡。结果比今年还惨，连参院都没过。
布什给49位共和党参议员都打了招呼，结果是这样的：
46票赞成：其中民主党33票，共和党12票，无党派1票
53票反对：其中民主党15票，共和党37票，无党派1票
这就是STEM之友共和党的记录。
【在 i**y 的大作中提到】
: oh, but you said 2007 failed immigration reform is Bush's responsibility.
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g******e
发帖数: 1258 | 10 很有可能像上次大选前那样，给dream kids再发一轮EAD。
EB23就不要多想了，H4 EAD那个能过就谢天谢地了。 |
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o********0
发帖数: 2145 | 11 1990年：美国国会通过《美国新移民法案》，增加合法移民配额数，增设移民类别，将
技术类移民的优先权明确划分为五类，基本涵盖了美国所需人才的方方面面，真正地为
外国优秀人才敞开了大门。（老布什总统）
1996年：美国国会年通过了《非法移民改革和移民责任法》。该法案加大对非法移民的
处罚，该法案被认为是具有综合性严厉条款的移民法，带有浓厚的反移民色彩（克林顿
总统）
2001年：布什及国会原本要通过移民改革法案，但是因9.11事件的发生将其延迟。 |
k**i
发帖数: 10191 | 12 你知道为什么大量共和党反对么，因为Path to Citizen是给非法移民的。早说了，如
果法案只针对合法，共和党是支持的；只要参乎上非法，共和党肯定反对。你给的这个
例子不能说明共和党对合法移民不友好。归根结底，是民主党的问题，为什么合法和非
法要捆绑一起过？要死一起死，要活一起活？
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 我可没那么说，可能您记性不好。我还是给了小布什Credit，但贵党的STEM之友们实在
: 不咋地：
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/32121367_0.html
: 发信人: tomnjerry (tom jerry), 信区: EB23
: 标 题: Re: 突然发现奥巴马搞得移民改革祸国殃民
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 6 00:52:41 2014, 美东)
: 小布什当总统的时候，2007年也有过一次轰轰烈烈的移民改革提案，内容基本和今年一
: 样：Path to Citizen, 强化边界，给高科技绿卡。结果比今年还惨，连参院都没过。
: 布什给49位共和党参议员都打了招呼，结果是这样的：
: 46票赞成：其中民主党33票，共和党12票，无党派1票
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o********0
发帖数: 2145 | 13 没错，O8先把肉捞到碗里，然后让共和党从剩菜里挑挑拣拣，舆论一哄，满世界都知道
共和党反对移民改革。凭啥非法移民一定要讨论，慢点讨论不行？凭啥一定要公民之路
？凭啥一定要福利医疗？连讨论都没有，直接就给捆绑了，这根本就是霸王餐。如果不
是美国人民觉醒的快，把众院迅速还给了共和党，O8一定已经大赦天下了
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】
: 你知道为什么大量共和党反对么，因为Path to Citizen是给非法移民的。早说了，如
: 果法案只针对合法，共和党是支持的；只要参乎上非法，共和党肯定反对。你给的这个
: 例子不能说明共和党对合法移民不友好。归根结底，是民主党的问题，为什么合法和非
: 法要捆绑一起过？要死一起死，要活一起活？
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 14 这都是你说的，但不是事实啊。你有很多Opinion，比方共和党对合法移民好，共和党
喜欢中印EB2，比方不给path to citizen就过，等等；但很不幸事实都和你唱反调啊。
今年1月底的时候，Boehner出台过一个关于移民的共和党Principle，篇幅大概一页A4
纸，里面讲了几条，有一条是给1100万非法移民"Leagal Status"（注意，不是Path to
Citizen），还有一条是给STEM放宽。这一张纸出台以后得到了奥黑的高度赞扬；但与
此同时遭到党内的激烈反对，以至于一个礼拜以后Boehner就缩回去了。
我们说白了吧，你说的STEM绿卡就是中印EB2，3方案。合法科技移民里，除了中印EB2
，EB3都没问题。牛人有EB1，其他国家的挫人也没排期，只要雇主同意申请，拿卡易如
反掌。老实说两党都是给了STEM面子，把这层纸点破美国老百姓有几个会支持所谓STEM
绿卡的？
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】
: 你知道为什么大量共和党反对么，因为Path to Citizen是给非法移民的。早说了，如
: 果法案只针对合法，共和党是支持的；只要参乎上非法，共和党肯定反对。你给的这个
: 例子不能说明共和党对合法移民不友好。归根结底，是民主党的问题，为什么合法和非
: 法要捆绑一起过？要死一起死，要活一起活？
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k******d
发帖数: 1636 | 15 你这个解释完全不合理
既然没人关心合法eb23，为什么要把这么点人拉进来给非法移民当枪使？捆绑这么一小
撮中印eb23真的就一定有必要？
A4
to
EB2
STEM
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这都是你说的，但不是事实啊。你有很多Opinion，比方共和党对合法移民好，共和党
: 喜欢中印EB2，比方不给path to citizen就过，等等；但很不幸事实都和你唱反调啊。
: 今年1月底的时候，Boehner出台过一个关于移民的共和党Principle，篇幅大概一页A4
: 纸，里面讲了几条，有一条是给1100万非法移民"Leagal Status"（注意，不是Path to
: Citizen），还有一条是给STEM放宽。这一张纸出台以后得到了奥黑的高度赞扬；但与
: 此同时遭到党内的激烈反对，以至于一个礼拜以后Boehner就缩回去了。
: 我们说白了吧，你说的STEM绿卡就是中印EB2，3方案。合法科技移民里，除了中印EB2
: ，EB3都没问题。牛人有EB1，其他国家的挫人也没排期，只要雇主同意申请，拿卡易如
: 反掌。老实说两党都是给了STEM面子，把这层纸点破美国老百姓有几个会支持所谓STEM
: 绿卡的？
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 16 因为很简单，民主党知道CIR的非法部分阻力大，拉上STEM就拉上了硅谷华尔街大公司
，人多力量大，好推点。共和党为了不在政治正确的移民问题上失分，也要给个交代吧
，说我们是支持移民地，特别支持STEM，只是不支持给非法Citizen。换句话说，虽然
共和党铁心反对非法，但不愿意赤裸裸地说出来，它要抓着合法当块遮羞布。他要那么
喜欢合法，民主党关于STEM的Bill就摆那儿，共和党拿出来表决就行了；他说他不喜欢
民主党捆绑了非法，那共和党的STEM Bill呢？不是说要Piece Meal吗？一年过去了憋
出过半页纸没有？支持STEM就Cheap到只在嘴里讲讲，憋了一年憋出四五行字写进所谓
的Principle里，一个礼拜给党内呛回去了？这就是共和党强烈支持高科技移民？
我们退一步可不可以这样讲，相比共和党对非法移民的恨，他们对于STEM的爱是多么微
不足道啊！
【在 k******d 的大作中提到】
: 你这个解释完全不合理
: 既然没人关心合法eb23，为什么要把这么点人拉进来给非法移民当枪使？捆绑这么一小
: 撮中印eb23真的就一定有必要？
:
: A4
: to
: EB2
: STEM
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k******d
发帖数: 1636 | 17 你似乎很不喜欢共和党
起码民主党可以利用stem绿卡威胁共和党，这个就足够证明两党对于stem的态度了
捆绑是民主党提出来的，也是民主党一口咬定要捆绑，现在怎么却指责共和党了？现在
如果不是民主党捆绑，也不至于任何移民法案都无法通过。
至于你总是提起的piece meal，明眼人都能看出来是民主党恶心共和党的。共和党要是
敢提，就等于跟老莫为敌，你以为共和党会那么傻？捆绑的结果就是民主党以非法移民
的利益牺牲了其他所有移民的利益。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 因为很简单，民主党知道CIR的非法部分阻力大，拉上STEM就拉上了硅谷华尔街大公司
: ，人多力量大，好推点。共和党为了不在政治正确的移民问题上失分，也要给个交代吧
: ，说我们是支持移民地，特别支持STEM，只是不支持给非法Citizen。换句话说，虽然
: 共和党铁心反对非法，但不愿意赤裸裸地说出来，它要抓着合法当块遮羞布。他要那么
: 喜欢合法，民主党关于STEM的Bill就摆那儿，共和党拿出来表决就行了；他说他不喜欢
: 民主党捆绑了非法，那共和党的STEM Bill呢？不是说要Piece Meal吗？一年过去了憋
: 出过半页纸没有？支持STEM就Cheap到只在嘴里讲讲，憋了一年憋出四五行字写进所谓
: 的Principle里，一个礼拜给党内呛回去了？这就是共和党强烈支持高科技移民？
: 我们退一步可不可以这样讲，相比共和党对非法移民的恨，他们对于STEM的爱是多么微
: 不足道啊！
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h**u
发帖数: 146 | 18 就算单纯增加高科技移民的法案，估计共和党也不会力推。民主党之前也是之前为了选
票只给非法移民空头支票。至于美国如果因为拉美化衰败，就不应该是华人所担心的，
因为华人不是主流。中国强大的时候，再回国就好了。 |
t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 19 我在本版很多贴里都说过了啊，我喜欢中间路线比较务实比较温和的政治力量，也就是
浅红的共和党和浅蓝的民主党，比方里根的加州共和党和克林顿的南方民主党。现在的
民主党和共和党一个极左一个极右我都不喜欢。我和这里一些ID区别是他们喜欢共和党
，把共和党看成他们的救星，是STEM的代言人，我对此持反对意见。
你说Piece Meal是民主党恶心共和党，地球人都笑了。稍微Follow一点移民新闻的人都
知道，Piece Meal是众院共和党主动扛起来的大旗，用来反对参院CIR的一揽子计划。
这个Piece Meal屡次遭到民主党反对他们依然坚持。直到民主党妥协，表示也可以接受
Piece Meal，他们才不太高调搞Piece Meal了。
【在 k******d 的大作中提到】
: 你似乎很不喜欢共和党
: 起码民主党可以利用stem绿卡威胁共和党，这个就足够证明两党对于stem的态度了
: 捆绑是民主党提出来的，也是民主党一口咬定要捆绑，现在怎么却指责共和党了？现在
: 如果不是民主党捆绑，也不至于任何移民法案都无法通过。
: 至于你总是提起的piece meal，明眼人都能看出来是民主党恶心共和党的。共和党要是
: 敢提，就等于跟老莫为敌，你以为共和党会那么傻？捆绑的结果就是民主党以非法移民
: 的利益牺牲了其他所有移民的利益。
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k**i
发帖数: 10191 | 20 你把friendly和advocate搞混了。friendly是法案出来了，共和党议员会支持。
advocate是主动的创造条件去实现。你下面批评共和党的只是他们不advocate而已。再
说，你把一个共和党议员等同于整体共和党也是不对的。格老就是格老，你不能说他的
态度代表全部共和党的态度。大赦法案本身通过参院的时候，都有民主党议员投反对票
，你能说民主党对非法的敌视的么？参院共和党议员也有赞成的，你能说共和党对非法
是友好的么?不能啊，要看基本面么.
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 因为很简单，民主党知道CIR的非法部分阻力大，拉上STEM就拉上了硅谷华尔街大公司
: ，人多力量大，好推点。共和党为了不在政治正确的移民问题上失分，也要给个交代吧
: ，说我们是支持移民地，特别支持STEM，只是不支持给非法Citizen。换句话说，虽然
: 共和党铁心反对非法，但不愿意赤裸裸地说出来，它要抓着合法当块遮羞布。他要那么
: 喜欢合法，民主党关于STEM的Bill就摆那儿，共和党拿出来表决就行了；他说他不喜欢
: 民主党捆绑了非法，那共和党的STEM Bill呢？不是说要Piece Meal吗？一年过去了憋
: 出过半页纸没有？支持STEM就Cheap到只在嘴里讲讲，憋了一年憋出四五行字写进所谓
: 的Principle里，一个礼拜给党内呛回去了？这就是共和党强烈支持高科技移民？
: 我们退一步可不可以这样讲，相比共和党对非法移民的恨，他们对于STEM的爱是多么微
: 不足道啊！
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 21 你发了很多言，但你发言越多就越露怯：因为你很多事情根本不了解，就会喊”共和党
万岁“的口号。格老为什么能挡住3012?因为当年他是参院司法委员会里专门管H1B的，
他掌管参院有关H1B和EB之类法律的起草和表决。格老已经说了，要今年共和党在参院
翻盘，他又是参院司法委员会主席。盼着共和党参院翻盘的，就等着再喝格老几壶吧。
当然格老80岁了，大家还是祈祷他老人家早点挂，比较现实点。
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】
: 你把friendly和advocate搞混了。friendly是法案出来了，共和党议员会支持。
: advocate是主动的创造条件去实现。你下面批评共和党的只是他们不advocate而已。再
: 说，你把一个共和党议员等同于整体共和党也是不对的。格老就是格老，你不能说他的
: 态度代表全部共和党的态度。大赦法案本身通过参院的时候，都有民主党议员投反对票
: ，你能说民主党对非法的敌视的么？参院共和党议员也有赞成的，你能说共和党对非法
: 是友好的么?不能啊，要看基本面么.
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a***g
发帖数: 2402 | 22 格老这个人也算是很奇葩的了，当年奥巴马给非法移民发EAD的时候他做出什么像样的
事吗？除了给奥总发了一篇激昂慷慨催人尿下的质询信之外也没见有什么具体行动，结
果人家奥总MS根本都没理他。真的，我要是他的话，没有挡住给非法移民发EAD就辞职
不干了，更不不可能继续在移民问题上指点江山，丢不起那个人。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 你发了很多言，但你发言越多就越露怯：因为你很多事情根本不了解，就会喊”共和党
: 万岁“的口号。格老为什么能挡住3012?因为当年他是参院司法委员会里专门管H1B的，
: 他掌管参院有关H1B和EB之类法律的起草和表决。格老已经说了，要今年共和党在参院
: 翻盘，他又是参院司法委员会主席。盼着共和党参院翻盘的，就等着再喝格老几壶吧。
: 当然格老80岁了，大家还是祈祷他老人家早点挂，比较现实点。
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y******u
发帖数: 1181 | 23 怕丢人的不是政治家。
【在 a***g 的大作中提到】
: 格老这个人也算是很奇葩的了，当年奥巴马给非法移民发EAD的时候他做出什么像样的
: 事吗？除了给奥总发了一篇激昂慷慨催人尿下的质询信之外也没见有什么具体行动，结
: 果人家奥总MS根本都没理他。真的，我要是他的话，没有挡住给非法移民发EAD就辞职
: 不干了，更不不可能继续在移民问题上指点江山，丢不起那个人。
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k******d
发帖数: 1636 | 24 你觉得民主党妥协，共和党就真的敢提？
如果不是民主党当初捆绑，现在共和党还真的敢提。
你可以说，共和党自己根本就不想提，但是更加深层次原因是即使民主党同意，共和党
也不敢提，因为会得罪老莫。当初有一部分原因是共和党为了恶心民主党而提出这个方
案，但是，究其根本原因，任何法案都无法通过的根源就是民主党的捆绑。
可以说， 没有stem绿卡，也会有其他移民法案，但是就是因为民主党的捆绑，所以任
何法案都无法通过，要看到根本，所以即使民主党松口，共和党也不会当傻子去提什么
法案。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 我在本版很多贴里都说过了啊，我喜欢中间路线比较务实比较温和的政治力量，也就是
: 浅红的共和党和浅蓝的民主党，比方里根的加州共和党和克林顿的南方民主党。现在的
: 民主党和共和党一个极左一个极右我都不喜欢。我和这里一些ID区别是他们喜欢共和党
: ，把共和党看成他们的救星，是STEM的代言人，我对此持反对意见。
: 你说Piece Meal是民主党恶心共和党，地球人都笑了。稍微Follow一点移民新闻的人都
: 知道，Piece Meal是众院共和党主动扛起来的大旗，用来反对参院CIR的一揽子计划。
: 这个Piece Meal屡次遭到民主党反对他们依然坚持。直到民主党妥协，表示也可以接受
: Piece Meal，他们才不太高调搞Piece Meal了。
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c*****3
发帖数: 144 | 25 共合黨這麼反對非法移民就大聲表明立場阿
敢做不敢當又愛玩兩面遊戲
都不歡迎非移了還怕得罪不得罪別人
畏畏縮縮的一副窩囊樣難怪現在被輿論攻擊成排外黨
道貌岸然
【在 k******d 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得民主党妥协，共和党就真的敢提？
: 如果不是民主党当初捆绑，现在共和党还真的敢提。
: 你可以说，共和党自己根本就不想提，但是更加深层次原因是即使民主党同意，共和党
: 也不敢提，因为会得罪老莫。当初有一部分原因是共和党为了恶心民主党而提出这个方
: 案，但是，究其根本原因，任何法案都无法通过的根源就是民主党的捆绑。
: 可以说， 没有stem绿卡，也会有其他移民法案，但是就是因为民主党的捆绑，所以任
: 何法案都无法通过，要看到根本，所以即使民主党松口，共和党也不会当傻子去提什么
: 法案。
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p*********g
发帖数: 453 | 26 奥大统领为STEM做过什么？他就不能签个Executive Order给STEM们2年的EAD？倒是人
家小布什总统在的时候，还把STEM们的OPT延长成29个月。 |
c*****3
发帖数: 144 | 27 那你等2016再來問這問題
也許過幾個月他還真的簽了
Who knows?
【在 p*********g 的大作中提到】
: 奥大统领为STEM做过什么？他就不能签个Executive Order给STEM们2年的EAD？倒是人
: 家小布什总统在的时候，还把STEM们的OPT延长成29个月。
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c*********2
发帖数: 2752 | 28 Lz is thinking too much. Nothing os going to be done. Just talks like usual. |
t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 29 他Propose了给140批准的H1B家属发EAD，但遭到本版众多ＩＤ反对，呵呵。
【在 p*********g 的大作中提到】
: 奥大统领为STEM做过什么？他就不能签个Executive Order给STEM们2年的EAD？倒是人
: 家小布什总统在的时候，还把STEM们的OPT延长成29个月。
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m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 30 what about executive order?
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 美国政府分国会，行政，司法三个部门。总统是行政机构的头，而移民事物主要归国会
: 管，总统在立法上只有否决权。国会不Move，总统也没辙。总统要权力真那么大，在移
: 民这个本届政府一号工程上还用得着求着国会吗？自己Move On就行了。
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