c***m
发帖数: 13 | 1 我在现在的职位以contractor身份干了4年，contract公司帮申请了绿卡(EB2)，pd是
2013年4月。我去年6月2号已经提交了485。现在老板说可以转正了，而且可以 promote
to supervisor，泪奔啊。因为这是公司第一次这么转，所以都不知到该怎么办。公司
的律师有点concern, 说最好先平级转,等拿到再promote. 我老板觉得可以take risk（
他人真的很好）。
多谢各位帮忙，给点意见！ | c*******n
发帖数: 2629 | 2 相同相似工作应该没问题吧，关键看JD，RFE说明就好啊。 | d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 3 从技术职位转管理职位？确实有危险哦,不能用什么senior,principle, staff之类的
title吗，让看起来还像是技术职位 | l****h
发帖数: 88 | 4 I have the same issue. According to my research from USCIS's description.
Career progression is allowed. They evaluate it not by job code, but by job
description. Even tho your main job function has been progressed to a
supervisor role, I think it is totally reasonable. | d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 5 管理职位和技术职位的job description怎么可能一样？一样或者相似的话就是作假了
，supervisor的职责是管理被你supervise的人，技术职位是做你职位相关的技术工作 | l****h
发帖数: 88 | 6 Not necessarily.
See note from USCIS:
USCIS recognizes that individuals earn opportunities for career advancement
as they gain
experience over time. As with other cases, cases involving career
progression must be
considered under the totality of the circumstances to determine whether the
applicant has
established by a preponderance of the evidence that the relevant positions
are in similar
occupational classifications for 204(j) portability purposes.
In many instances, an individual’s progress in his or her career may easily
fit the standards
discussed in the preceding section, such as when an individual moves into a
more senior but
related position that does not have a managerial or supervisory role (e.g.,
a promotion from a
software engineer to a senior software engineer). In such cases, ISOs should
consider whether
the original position and the new position are in the same or similar
occupational classification(s)
consistent with the preceding section.
In other instances, career progression may involve a different analysis,
such as when an
individual moves from a non-managerial and non-supervisory position into a
managerial or
supervisory role. In these cases, if evidence provided by applicants
establishes that, in their new
positions, they are primarily responsible for managing the same or similar
functions of their
original jobs or the work of individuals whose jobs are in the same or
similar occupational
classification(s) as the applicants’ original positions, ISOs may treat
such evidence favorably in
determining whether the two jobs are in similar occupational classifications
for purposes of
204(j) portability. The following examples are illustrative:
Scenario A. If the occupation described in the original job offer was
assigned
the SOC code of 15-1132 for Software Developers, Applications, ISOs may
determine that a new job offer described in the SOC code of 11-3021 for
Computer and Information Systems Managers is in a similar occupational
classification. This is because Computer and Information Systems Managers
generally manage individuals in positions that fall within occupational
classifications that are the same as or similar to the occupational
classification
of the original job offer (e.g., Computer Programmers (15-1131); Software
Developers, Applications (15-1132); Software Developers, Systems Software
(15-1133); and Web Developers (15-1134), all of which are grouped together
under the broad occupational code for Software Developers and Programmers
(15-1130)).
Scenario B. If the occupation described in the original job offer was
assigned
the SOC code of 35-2014 for Cooks, Restaurant, ISOs may determine that a
Draft PM-602-0119: Determining Whether a New Job is in “the Same or a
Similar Occupational
Classification” for Purposes of Section 204(j) Job Portability
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new job offer described in the SOC code of 11-9051 for Food Service
Managers is not in a similar occupational classification. This is because
the
duties of Food Service Managers—duties that include planning, directing, or
coordinating activities of an organization that serves food and beverages—
are
generally different from those of Restaurant Cooks, who largely prepare
meals. Moreover, the SOC code for Food Service Managers specifically
excludes “Chefs and Head Cooks,” who supervise restaurant cooks and
individuals in other similar positions.
There may be instances where the evidence, in light of the totality of the
circumstances, warrants
a favorable portability determination based on normal career progression
even though the
individual is not managing persons in jobs that are in the same or similar
occupational
classification(s) as the applicant’s original position. For example, if the
evidence demonstrates
that an applicant’s original job duties as a Restaurant Cook included
ordering supplies, setting
menu prices, and planning the daily menu, a change to a Food Service Manager
position may be
considered normal career progression if in the new job the applicant’s
responsibilities will
include ordering food and beverages, equipment, and supplies, as well as
overseeing food
preparation, portion sizes, and the overall presentation of food. While the
applicant may not be
directly supervising cooks in his or her new position, the applicant may
provide evidence that he
or she is overseeing some of the functions that a cook would perform to
demonstrate that the two
positions may be in similar occupational classifications.
【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 管理职位和技术职位的job description怎么可能一样？一样或者相似的话就是作假了
: ，supervisor的职责是管理被你supervise的人，技术职位是做你职位相关的技术工作
| l****h
发帖数: 88 | 7 你是可以做你曾经职位的管理员，因为你拥有你曾经职位的技术，你是间接做你曾今的
职位，因为你现在是曾经你的manager。如果我是你，我就勇敢的跳，我自己也是这么
计划的。
【在 d*******p 的大作中提到】
: 管理职位和技术职位的job description怎么可能一样？一样或者相似的话就是作假了
: ，supervisor的职责是管理被你supervise的人，技术职位是做你职位相关的技术工作
| c***m
发帖数: 13 | 8 多谢各位回复，我决定冒险试一下，有结果的再来和大家分享 |
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