n*******n
发帖数: 189 | 1 State department 9月1号update， 出处： https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/
09FAM030209.html
(2) (U) Inconsistent Conduct Within 90 Days of Entry:
(a) (U) However, if an alien violates or engages in conduct inconsistent
with his or her nonimmigrant status within 90 days of entry, as described in
subparagraph (2)(b) below, you may presume that the applicant's
representations about engaging in only status-compliant activity were
willful misrepresentations of his or her intention in seeking a visa or
entry. To make a finding of inadmissibility for misrepresentation based on
conduct inconsistent with status within 90 days of entry, you must request
an AO from CA/VO/L/A. As with other grounds that do not require a formal AO,
the AO may be informal. See 9 FAM 304.3-2.
(b) (U) For purposes of applying the 90-day rule, conduct that violates or
is otherwise inconsistent with an alien’s nonimmigrant status includes, but
is not limited to:
(i) (U) Engaging in unauthorized employment;
(ii (U) Enrolling in a course of academic study, if such study is not
authorized for that nonimmigrant classification (e.g. B status);
(iii) (U) A nonimmigrant in B or F status, or any other status
prohibiting immigrant intent, marrying a United States citizen or lawful
permanent resident and taking up residence in the United States; or
(iv) (U) Undertaking any other activity for which a change of status or
an adjustment of status would be required, without the benefit of such a
change or adjustment.
(3) (U) After 90 Days: If an alien violates or engages in conduct
inconsistent with his or her nonimmigrant status more than 90 days after
entry into the United States, no presumption of willful misrepresentation
arises. However, if the facts in the case give you reasonable belief that
the alien misrepresented his or her purpose of travel at the time of the
visa application or application for admission, you must request an AO from
CA/VO/L/A. (See 9 FAM 302.9-4(C)(2)).
请问各位是怎么解读的？ LD B2 入境后70天和我结的婚，目前已经B2在美国100天，
我现在是H1/AOS, 因为LD出生地不需排期，本来准备过几天帮她递485, 不知道这个更
改出来后是不是会有影响？
USCIS 目前网站上好像还没有跟款，还是指原来的30/60 days rule... |
s*****n
发帖数: 72 | |
z****g
发帖数: 3509 | 3 没有影响，USCIS不归state dept管。
另外你也不是公民或永久居民，并没有专门的用来和H1结婚的非移民身份。
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【在 n*******n 的大作中提到】
: State department 9月1号update， 出处： https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/
: 09FAM030209.html
: (2) (U) Inconsistent Conduct Within 90 Days of Entry:
: (a) (U) However, if an alien violates or engages in conduct inconsistent
: with his or her nonimmigrant status within 90 days of entry, as described in
: subparagraph (2)(b) below, you may presume that the applicant's
: representations about engaging in only status-compliant activity were
: willful misrepresentations of his or her intention in seeking a visa or
: entry. To make a finding of inadmissibility for misrepresentation based on
: conduct inconsistent with status within 90 days of entry, you must request
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z****g
发帖数: 3509 | 4 advisory opinion
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 啥叫AO
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w***n
发帖数: 193 | 5 跟风问一下：
最近在给LD办理F2A的485，突然看到国务院9月1号新发布的FAM里面，对原来的30/60天
规则有重大修改，目前移民局网站还没更新，但是根据移民局一般照搬国务院的规则，
估计他们很快就会跟进。
请大牛帮忙分析一下，这个会不会对提交485的批准有影响，10月排期已经到了
先说一下具体情况，我是绿卡，LD是F-1身份，在拿到F-1签证入境大概70天左右的时候
在美国领证，（之前F1身份已经好几年了，高中就在美国读F1身份），然后大概又过了
半年交了130，然后等了一年多到现在，10月可以提交485了；本来都很顺利，但是今天
突然看到国务院的这个规定改动，马上不淡定了
原来的30/60天，现在变成90天了，列出来相关的部分，尤其是这条：
(iii) (U) A nonimmigrant in B or F status, or any other status
prohibiting immigrant intent, marrying a United States citizen or lawful
permanent resident and taking up residence in the United States; or
按照这个新规则，我LD当时是在F1入境90天内60天外和我领证的，可是怎么理解那个“
and”呢？marrying a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident ***
and*** taking up residence in the United States；
可以理解成90天内领证，**并且**同时提交移民申请(130/485)，才算违规吗？如果像
我们的情况，90天内领证，但是1年左右130，2年左右485，这个应该没事吧，因为原文
里那个“and taking up residence in the United State”，没有提交130/485不算是
taking up residence in the US吧？
请大神帮忙分析一下，马上就要交485了，无限感激！
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【在 n*******n 的大作中提到】
: State department 9月1号update， 出处： https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/
: 09FAM030209.html
: (2) (U) Inconsistent Conduct Within 90 Days of Entry:
: (a) (U) However, if an alien violates or engages in conduct inconsistent
: with his or her nonimmigrant status within 90 days of entry, as described in
: subparagraph (2)(b) below, you may presume that the applicant's
: representations about engaging in only status-compliant activity were
: willful misrepresentations of his or her intention in seeking a visa or
: entry. To make a finding of inadmissibility for misrepresentation based on
: conduct inconsistent with status within 90 days of entry, you must request
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b****h
发帖数: 2105 | 6 不用担心，如果你ld领证后继续维持f1身份就不算。
【在 w***n 的大作中提到】
: 跟风问一下：
: 最近在给LD办理F2A的485，突然看到国务院9月1号新发布的FAM里面，对原来的30/60天
: 规则有重大修改，目前移民局网站还没更新，但是根据移民局一般照搬国务院的规则，
: 估计他们很快就会跟进。
: 请大牛帮忙分析一下，这个会不会对提交485的批准有影响，10月排期已经到了
: 先说一下具体情况，我是绿卡，LD是F-1身份，在拿到F-1签证入境大概70天左右的时候
: 在美国领证，（之前F1身份已经好几年了，高中就在美国读F1身份），然后大概又过了
: 半年交了130，然后等了一年多到现在，10月可以提交485了；本来都很顺利，但是今天
: 突然看到国务院的这个规定改动，马上不淡定了
: 原来的30/60天，现在变成90天了，列出来相关的部分，尤其是这条：
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n*******n
发帖数: 189 | 7 Fragomen 律师一开始看到这个update 很紧张 😓
一度建议LD回国然后用H4回来再485.
后来 和他们律师把条款逐字逐句读了。他们说 他们agree可以继续file 485, 但是同
时又说不是完全risk free....
其实和之前的30/60rule 比，state department把当时的30天内会他们不喜欢看到的事
，扩充到了90天。
1） 不喜欢90天内和USC/LPR结婚再申绿卡
2) 不喜欢90天内B/F签证入境者做任何需要让他们AOS的行为。
【在 z****g 的大作中提到】
: 没有影响，USCIS不归state dept管。
: 另外你也不是公民或永久居民，并没有专门的用来和H1结婚的非移民身份。
:
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w***n
发帖数: 193 | 8 谢谢回复！
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】
: 不用担心，如果你ld领证后继续维持f1身份就不算。
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w***n
发帖数: 193 | 9 我又研究了一下，说是移民局从来都没有offically的说有所谓30/60天rule；那个只是
国务院审批签证申请时候的手册；网上还说没听说过人因为30/60天rule被拒AOS的，版
上的有报过吗？
那以此推断，这个新的90天rule，对移民局也是non-binding
移民局手册里对以前30/60天rule的说明，最后一句说的很清楚，应该没有什么担心的
了。
The USCIS addresses the 30/60 day rule in its Policy Manual for immigration
officers. 8 USCIS PM J.3 states:
The U.S. Department of State (DOS) has developed a 30/60-day rule to assist
consular officers in evaluating misrepresentation in cases involving a
person who was in the United States and whose conduct is or was inconsistent
with representations made to the consular officer concerning his or her
intentions at the time of the visa application.
An officer should keep in mind that the 30/60 day rule is not a “rule” in
the sense of a binding principle of decision. The rule is simply an
analytical tool that may be helpful in resolving in a particular case
whether a person's actions support of finding of fraud or misrepresentation.
Officers must not use Foreign Affairs Manual (FAM) guidance in a denial.
【在 n*******n 的大作中提到】
: Fragomen 律师一开始看到这个update 很紧张 😓
: 一度建议LD回国然后用H4回来再485.
: 后来 和他们律师把条款逐字逐句读了。他们说 他们agree可以继续file 485, 但是同
: 时又说不是完全risk free....
: 其实和之前的30/60rule 比，state department把当时的30天内会他们不喜欢看到的事
: ，扩充到了90天。
: 1） 不喜欢90天内和USC/LPR结婚再申绿卡
: 2) 不喜欢90天内B/F签证入境者做任何需要让他们AOS的行为。
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a****r
发帖数: 4965 | 10 既然你领导交485不需要排期，交完485到拿到GC前不离开美国、不申请签证，DOS就管
不了你LD。
USCIS只是用DOS的Rule做为参考，但不是正式的Policy。不过你们刚结婚不久就申请绿
卡，基本上要面试婚姻真实性了，需要提早做好准备。
【在 n*******n 的大作中提到】
: Fragomen 律师一开始看到这个update 很紧张 😓
: 一度建议LD回国然后用H4回来再485.
: 后来 和他们律师把条款逐字逐句读了。他们说 他们agree可以继续file 485, 但是同
: 时又说不是完全risk free....
: 其实和之前的30/60rule 比，state department把当时的30天内会他们不喜欢看到的事
: ，扩充到了90天。
: 1） 不喜欢90天内和USC/LPR结婚再申绿卡
: 2) 不喜欢90天内B/F签证入境者做任何需要让他们AOS的行为。
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n*******n
发帖数: 189 | 11 谢谢楼上几位的input. 床破时代 大家都只能谨小慎微 |
