c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | |
s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 2 Half hype, half technology, I wouldn't bet all my money on them, the market
is already crowded. |
t*******r
发帖数: 3271 | 3 the market is already crowded.
严重同意 |
w*f
发帖数: 111 | 4 不同意
Palo Alto Networks firewalls are Layer 7 aware. When I deployed it. it
helped us to identify traffic not based on tcp ports but application types.
why is it a hype?
Checkpoint is getting the same game by teaming up with Facetime |
s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 5 Leading firewall vendors like Cisco, Juniper, can all do DPI.
.
【在 w*f 的大作中提到】
: 不同意
: Palo Alto Networks firewalls are Layer 7 aware. When I deployed it. it
: helped us to identify traffic not based on tcp ports but application types.
: why is it a hype?
: Checkpoint is getting the same game by teaming up with Facetime
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t*******r
发帖数: 3271 | 6 Arista Networks, Palo Alto Networks
这几个公司木有能stand-out的核心技术, 顶多也就是特色. C,J,H谁家没有?
技术都差不多你怎么混啊?~ |
B*****R
发帖数: 1539 | 7 Arista stood out for their low latency 10G switches. they position as a
serious player now, including their chassis based switch.
PA networks, not really...I do believe many people there will get richer
soon.
【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: Arista Networks, Palo Alto Networks
: 这几个公司木有能stand-out的核心技术, 顶多也就是特色. C,J,H谁家没有?
: 技术都差不多你怎么混啊?~
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 8 low latency一般主要就是trading上用，那些wall street的公司，会相信这么小的公
司？而且low latency现在在Cisco, juniper, foundry这些大点的公司产品上都也不错
。Blade networks也不错，但是blade有IBM支持。
arista的产品有啥特色没？
【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: Arista stood out for their low latency 10G switches. they position as a
: serious player now, including their chassis based switch.
: PA networks, not really...I do believe many people there will get richer
: soon.
|
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 9 If you have a sound confidence on the QFabric, you should be less optimistic
about Arista?
Of course there's an important assumption, that is bigger brothers will execute well.
【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: Arista stood out for their low latency 10G switches. they position as a
: serious player now, including their chassis based switch.
: PA networks, not really...I do believe many people there will get richer
: soon.
|
j*a
发帖数: 14423 | 10 特色就是啥也不做 只做asic l2 forward
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: low latency一般主要就是trading上用，那些wall street的公司，会相信这么小的公
: 司？而且low latency现在在Cisco, juniper, foundry这些大点的公司产品上都也不错
: 。Blade networks也不错，但是blade有IBM支持。
: arista的产品有啥特色没？
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 11 Arista has made inroad into the wall street with their TOR. Such as Goldman
Sachs! The question is, if this situation can last long.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: low latency一般主要就是trading上用，那些wall street的公司，会相信这么小的公
: 司？而且low latency现在在Cisco, juniper, foundry这些大点的公司产品上都也不错
: 。Blade networks也不错，但是blade有IBM支持。
: arista的产品有啥特色没？
|
a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | 12 Some folks who have worked there said that's
hype.
Not sure about Palo Alto NW though. DPI based
Protocol/content auto detection is not anything new.
【在 j*a 的大作中提到】
: 特色就是啥也不做 只做asic l2 forward
|
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 13 哦，小公司其实最大的问题就是服务和可持续发展上，稍微有点风吹草动，服务可能就
跟不上了
Goldman
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: Arista has made inroad into the wall street with their TOR. Such as Goldman
: Sachs! The question is, if this situation can last long.
|
w*f
发帖数: 111 | 14 the key is how many app can DPI identify? DPI is not the same as
understanding hundreds of applications.
we were able to catch guys using Skype by PA firewall in sniffer mode. |
c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | 15 什么是DPI?弱弱的问问，请别见笑。
【在 a**********k 的大作中提到】
: Some folks who have worked there said that's
: hype.
: Not sure about Palo Alto NW though. DPI based
: Protocol/content auto detection is not anything new.
|
j*a
发帖数: 14423 | 16 deep packet inspection
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 什么是DPI?弱弱的问问，请别见笑。
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t*******r
发帖数: 3271 | 17 DPI大家都有, 做的其实差不多.
这就是我说的"你其实没有什么outstanding的东西"
也许你的DPI技术真的比大厂强一些, 但是在生意上, 这些很容易就被"服务和可持续发
展"之类的东西抵消了. |
v**n
发帖数: 951 | 18 bigger brothers are all executing very slow, sometimes in the wrong
directions.
optimistic
execute well.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: If you have a sound confidence on the QFabric, you should be less optimistic
: about Arista?
: Of course there's an important assumption, that is bigger brothers will execute well.
|
v**n
发帖数: 951 | 19 ZKSS. DPI 大家都能作关键是能做的多快多有效？如果session都secured了，有啥创新
的地方？
.
【在 w*f 的大作中提到】
: 不同意
: Palo Alto Networks firewalls are Layer 7 aware. When I deployed it. it
: helped us to identify traffic not based on tcp ports but application types.
: why is it a hype?
: Checkpoint is getting the same game by teaming up with Facetime
|
j*a
发帖数: 14423 | 20 hijack ssl/https
【在 v**n 的大作中提到】
: ZKSS. DPI 大家都能作关键是能做的多快多有效？如果session都secured了，有啥创新
: 的地方？
:
: .
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B*****R
发帖数: 1539 | 21 I don't comment on qf. I do believe arista is not a hype
optimistic
execute well.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: If you have a sound confidence on the QFabric, you should be less optimistic
: about Arista?
: Of course there's an important assumption, that is bigger brothers will execute well.
|
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 22 What details do you know about Arista? Had some lengthy talks with M?
QFabric will at least match Arista on latency, right? Then what else
advantage will Arista have then? Price could be one I know..
Not dismissing Arista, just very curious.
【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: I don't comment on qf. I do believe arista is not a hype
:
: optimistic
: execute well.
|
w****o
发帖数: 2260 | 23 大家都看走眼了吧？
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 这两个公司有什么优势？有前途吗？
: 谢谢！
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x*********n
发帖数: 28013 | 24 arista和花姐的关系不错，
palo alto这种企业的绝对弊病是不能提供一个whole solution，这就注定了面向用户
的level，毕竟，不是每个solution都愿意去几个vendor混合部队的，最起码走主流厂
家让engineer好干活把。
防火墙的总体市场还是在增加的，要么走performance，要么走简单稳定易用，把
target做好了，说不上哪个异军突起。 |
w*f
发帖数: 111 | 25 PA started the market for NG firewall. It's not the same as DPI. Its AppID
is becoming standard
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/application-awarenes |
d****i
发帖数: 1038 | 26 Arista 的另一个特色是open吧。programmable 应该也是他们的卖点。
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: What details do you know about Arista? Had some lengthy talks with M?
: QFabric will at least match Arista on latency, right? Then what else
: advantage will Arista have then? Price could be one I know..
: Not dismissing Arista, just very curious.
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