s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 1 I am looking to re-architect our WAN infrastructure, currently we have full
mesh GRE/IPsec across a bunch major sites, obviously this solution does not
scale. Cisco DMVPN comes to mind, but we don't like ISR pricing, we don't
want go to MPLS-VPN path either at this moment as Op cost is too high.
Do you guys know any alternative solution that can meet our needs? we need
direct spoke-to-spoke communication across Internet. Does Junos have
similar solution as DMVPN? anybody has experience with NetScreen's AC-VPN?
does it work well with multicast applications? |
z**r 发帖数: 17771 | 2 ISR too expensive?
full
not
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am looking to re-architect our WAN infrastructure, currently we have full : mesh GRE/IPsec across a bunch major sites, obviously this solution does not : scale. Cisco DMVPN comes to mind, but we don't like ISR pricing, we don't : want go to MPLS-VPN path either at this moment as Op cost is too high. : Do you guys know any alternative solution that can meet our needs? we need : direct spoke-to-spoke communication across Internet. Does Junos have : similar solution as DMVPN? anybody has experience with NetScreen's AC-VPN? : does it work well with multicast applications?
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 3 Very, to a small shop like us.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ISR too expensive? : : full : not
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z**r 发帖数: 17771 | 4 get some used ISR?
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Very, to a small shop like us.
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c*****i 发帖数: 631 | 5 isr low end 的不是才几百块吗
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Very, to a small shop like us.
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w*f 发帖数: 111 | 6 Used ISR 3800 is now very cheap |
s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 7 Can I get support/software license for the used ISRs from Cisco?
【在 w*f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Used ISR 3800 is now very cheap
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z**r 发帖数: 17771 | 8 yes
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Can I get support/software license for the used ISRs from Cisco?
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n**********l 发帖数: 271 | 9 only certified refurbished are eligible for smartnet? not those on ebay/cg?
There are a lot of smartnet alternatives for hardware support.. I don't know
about software.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes
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z**r 发帖数: 17771 | 10 I don't really care about hardware RMA if I buy used ISRs, so cheap to get
your own depot
?
know
【在 n**********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : only certified refurbished are eligible for smartnet? not those on ebay/cg? : There are a lot of smartnet alternatives for hardware support.. I don't know : about software.
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 11 Tough decision, we will need both software and hardware support, just in
case when shit hits the fan we can have somebody to rely on.
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't really care about hardware RMA if I buy used ISRs, so cheap to get : your own depot : : ? : know
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L******t 发帖数: 1985 | 12 Anyone gives me a real case some vendor beat Cisco because of multicast?
full
not
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am looking to re-architect our WAN infrastructure, currently we have full : mesh GRE/IPsec across a bunch major sites, obviously this solution does not : scale. Cisco DMVPN comes to mind, but we don't like ISR pricing, we don't : want go to MPLS-VPN path either at this moment as Op cost is too high. : Do you guys know any alternative solution that can meet our needs? we need : direct spoke-to-spoke communication across Internet. Does Junos have : similar solution as DMVPN? anybody has experience with NetScreen's AC-VPN? : does it work well with multicast applications?
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t*******r 发帖数: 3271 | 13 AT&T_CBB NG-MVPN
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Anyone gives me a real case some vendor beat Cisco because of multicast? : : full : not
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t*******r 发帖数: 3271 | 14 中国北京新时代证券公司内网视频项目(MX/M10i/M7i)
跟account team的人讲案例?! 呵呵....
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Anyone gives me a real case some vendor beat Cisco because of multicast? : : full : not
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L******t 发帖数: 1985 | 15 No, I'm just curious. Can you get more details which area Juniper is doing
better than Cisco in terms of multicast? Multicast routing only or combined
with switching?
【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 中国北京新时代证券公司内网视频项目(MX/M10i/M7i) : 跟account team的人讲案例?! 呵呵....
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t*******r 发帖数: 3271 | 16 组播VPN同时承载ipv4/ipv6流量, 用BGP做信令, 不需在核心运行PIM
combined
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : No, I'm just curious. Can you get more details which area Juniper is doing : better than Cisco in terms of multicast? Multicast routing only or combined : with switching?
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z**r 发帖数: 17771 | 17 俺客户就是这样的网络啊,很稀奇?
【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 组播VPN同时承载ipv4/ipv6流量, 用BGP做信令, 不需在核心运行PIM : : combined
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t*******r 发帖数: 3271 | 18 是思科的哪一个客户啊? 思科路由器参与了组播运行没有? 还是只是enable了MPLS其他
什么都没干的core router?
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俺客户就是这样的网络啊,很稀奇?
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