k*******3 发帖数: 1909 | 1 No class on Monday or Wednesday
是周一周三两天都没课,还是周一或周三(一天)没课 |
o********l 发帖数: 12430 | 2 or
does not equal to and
No class on Monday or Wednesday
是周一周三两天都没课,还是周一或周三(一天)没课
【在 k*******3 的大作中提到】 : No class on Monday or Wednesday : 是周一周三两天都没课,还是周一或周三(一天)没课
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l***i 发帖数: 632 | 3 not (p or q) = not p and not q
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k*******3 发帖数: 1909 | 4 you are wrong.
【在 o********l 的大作中提到】 : or : does not equal to and : : No class on Monday or Wednesday : 是周一周三两天都没课,还是周一或周三(一天)没课
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o********l 发帖数: 12430 | 5 or right
【在 k*******3 的大作中提到】 : you are wrong.
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | |
k*******3 发帖数: 1909 | 7 see here: http://niyanfa.siteem.com/common-09/03.htm
含有and连接并列成分的肯定句变为否定句时,应将and改为or,表示前后成分均被否定
;and前后为名词时,也可用no…and no…表示否定,如果and连接的两项内容为一整体
时,则不变。如:
(1)They can speak English and Chinese.→
They can't speak English or Chinese.
【在 o********l 的大作中提到】 : or right
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O******e 发帖数: 734 | 8 This is a defect in English.
If you are a logician, mathematician, or computer scientist,
you might say one of the following to be clear:
"No class on Monday ior Wednesday."
"No class on Monday xor Wednesday."
I guess this wasn't a class in one of these subjects.
【在 k*******3 的大作中提到】 : No class on Monday or Wednesday : 是周一周三两天都没课,还是周一或周三(一天)没课
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l***i 发帖数: 632 | 9 `or' in English is logical, it has the same meaning as in logic
`xor' is `either ... or ...' in English.
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】 : This is a defect in English. : If you are a logician, mathematician, or computer scientist, : you might say one of the following to be clear: : "No class on Monday ior Wednesday." : "No class on Monday xor Wednesday." : I guess this wasn't a class in one of these subjects.
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O******e 发帖数: 734 | 10 "or" in English is not always "inclusive or".
"Are you male or female?" (exclusive or)
"Do you want cream or sugar in your coffee?" (inclusive or)
【在 l***i 的大作中提到】 : `or' in English is logical, it has the same meaning as in logic : `xor' is `either ... or ...' in English.
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l***i 发帖数: 632 | 11
It's the question which makes it `exclusive or'...
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】 : "or" in English is not always "inclusive or". : "Are you male or female?" (exclusive or) : "Do you want cream or sugar in your coffee?" (inclusive or)
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O******e 发帖数: 734 | 12 The questions that I gave as examples provide the context
to clarify whether the "or" is inclusive or exclusive, but
the word "or" itself is not always inclusive or always
exclusive. Of course, "either . . . or" is definitely an
exclusive disjunction
Waiter: "What would you like to order?"
Diner: "I'd like to have the fajita."
Waiter: "Do you want chicken or steak?"
In this case it is not necessarily clear what "or" means
unless you have seen the menu and know whether the
restaurant offers chic
【在 l***i 的大作中提到】 : : It's the question which makes it `exclusive or'...
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l***i 发帖数: 632 | 13 well, you can always interpret it as `inclusive or'... however, it may `
degenerate' to `exclusive or' depending on the underlying model...
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】 : The questions that I gave as examples provide the context : to clarify whether the "or" is inclusive or exclusive, but : the word "or" itself is not always inclusive or always : exclusive. Of course, "either . . . or" is definitely an : exclusive disjunction : Waiter: "What would you like to order?" : Diner: "I'd like to have the fajita." : Waiter: "Do you want chicken or steak?" : In this case it is not necessarily clear what "or" means : unless you have seen the menu and know whether the
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