a********n 发帖数: 102 | 1 是不是大多数consulting都是按2080h/year 算的?hourly rate × 2080是年薪?
有没有公司按2340h/year 的?
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 2 As far as I know, your billable hour rate is:
annual salary / (50 weeks/yr x 40 hrs/wk)
No consulting firm is willing to pay you two-week vacaition salary on its
overhead. It is based on 2000 hr/yr.
If you are a PM, you will fnd it out from its PM software.
【在 a********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是不是大多数consulting都是按2080h/year 算的?hourly rate × 2080是年薪? : 有没有公司按2340h/year 的? : 多谢!
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m*l 发帖数: 507 | 3 我知道的咨询公司虽然是按HOUR来计算工资,其实和按SALARY来雇用区别不大。就象前
面说的,用年工资除以你每年工作小时数来算HOURLY RATE。所以一定要问清楚
BENEFITS,多少病假,多少休假什么的。一年多一个星期的假可是不少钱呢:)。
不过和SALARY来比,一般加班公司是要按1倍工资来付的。所以如果项目比较多,不太
在乎加班的话,还是能挣点血汗钱的。
好象大部分公司也不给ENGINEER BONUS。所以“灰色”收也不多。
但是如果经常做FIELD WORK的话,可能会有不少补助,到了手都是税后的,不过也是辛
苦钱。
这年头挣点钱不容易啊,呵呵 |
l********u 发帖数: 823 | 4 好奇,大家都觉得自己挣钱不容易,不知道谁跟我似的,总替公司算钱,生怕公司给大
家发钱发多了。我们一年129个钟头paid vacation,再加上那些paid holidays,保险
(我们自己只用出1刀/pay period),出差,开会,bonus (up to 10%) 等等,我这才
干没多久,还晕着呢,头儿就主动批了给长工资,7.5% or higher...
我生怕公司撑不住。刚刚还按平均一个人hourly rate 30刀算了算,2080 hr/yr, 看差
不多是去年总billing的1/3多些,才放心点。我家LG总是说我想法比较不对路子,估计
这个也是。
【在 m*l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我知道的咨询公司虽然是按HOUR来计算工资,其实和按SALARY来雇用区别不大。就象前 : 面说的,用年工资除以你每年工作小时数来算HOURLY RATE。所以一定要问清楚 : BENEFITS,多少病假,多少休假什么的。一年多一个星期的假可是不少钱呢:)。 : 不过和SALARY来比,一般加班公司是要按1倍工资来付的。所以如果项目比较多,不太 : 在乎加班的话,还是能挣点血汗钱的。 : 好象大部分公司也不给ENGINEER BONUS。所以“灰色”收也不多。 : 但是如果经常做FIELD WORK的话,可能会有不少补助,到了手都是税后的,不过也是辛 : 苦钱。 : 这年头挣点钱不容易啊,呵呵
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a********n 发帖数: 102 | 5 多谢各位解答,怪不得他们告诉我其实一年下来拿不到实际说的年薪工资的
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : As far as I know, your billable hour rate is: : annual salary / (50 weeks/yr x 40 hrs/wk) : No consulting firm is willing to pay you two-week vacaition salary on its : overhead. It is based on 2000 hr/yr. : If you are a PM, you will fnd it out from its PM software.
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m*l 发帖数: 507 | 6 这么好的公司啊,下回你们招人可别忘记了版上的兄弟姐妹啊!:)
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好奇,大家都觉得自己挣钱不容易,不知道谁跟我似的,总替公司算钱,生怕公司给大 : 家发钱发多了。我们一年129个钟头paid vacation,再加上那些paid holidays,保险 : (我们自己只用出1刀/pay period),出差,开会,bonus (up to 10%) 等等,我这才 : 干没多久,还晕着呢,头儿就主动批了给长工资,7.5% or higher... : 我生怕公司撑不住。刚刚还按平均一个人hourly rate 30刀算了算,2080 hr/yr, 看差 : 不多是去年总billing的1/3多些,才放心点。我家LG总是说我想法比较不对路子,估计 : 这个也是。
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 7 We just had a very big project coming in, totalling $800 mil. We definitely
need a lot of water and wastewater engineers with 4+ years of experience (
anyone interested?). Also, my boss proposed to open up two new departments
in the next few years, one is R&D (we don't have it right now), the other is
transportation.
【在 m*l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么好的公司啊,下回你们招人可别忘记了版上的兄弟姐妹啊!:)
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 8 still doesn't make sense to me. at least at my firm and my LG's firm, the actual pay is exactly at the promised pay rate, if not higher.
【在 a********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 多谢各位解答,怪不得他们告诉我其实一年下来拿不到实际说的年薪工资的
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 9 I think this "billable hour rate" considers the benefits as well, that's why
it goes a little higher, usually, 10-20% higher than the base pay rate.
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : As far as I know, your billable hour rate is: : annual salary / (50 weeks/yr x 40 hrs/wk) : No consulting firm is willing to pay you two-week vacaition salary on its : overhead. It is based on 2000 hr/yr. : If you are a PM, you will fnd it out from its PM software.
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 10 Generally speaking, you pay 9% of salary as SSN tax, and your company has to
pay Uncle Sam SSN 100% match your SSN tax. Company has to pay your portion
of health insurance, match your 401K plan, and reimburse expenses of
training or attending conferences. It is much more than 10-20% of your
salary.
why
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I think this "billable hour rate" considers the benefits as well, that's why : it goes a little higher, usually, 10-20% higher than the base pay rate.
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 11 then what is the "billable" rate (based on 2000 hrs a year) that you were
talking about? I am soooo confused now..
to
portion
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Generally speaking, you pay 9% of salary as SSN tax, and your company has to : pay Uncle Sam SSN 100% match your SSN tax. Company has to pay your portion : of health insurance, match your 401K plan, and reimburse expenses of : training or attending conferences. It is much more than 10-20% of your : salary. : : why
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 12 There are several options to bill the client per contract requirements:
Option 1: hourly salary x chargeable hrs x multiple factor
For example your client allowable multiple factor is 3.0, and your annual
salary is $60k/yr
Assume you charge this project 10 hours, the invoice will be:
$60K/yr / (40 hrs/wk x 50 wks/yr) x 10 hrs x 3.0 = $900
Option 2: billable rate x hours
No multple factor is involved. For example, if you are currently in
Environmental III engineer, and your company EI III billab
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then what is the "billable" rate (based on 2000 hrs a year) that you were : talking about? I am soooo confused now.. : : to : portion
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 13 $800 M on construction costs or consulting fees only?? But anyway, it is
definitely a big project. Based on your job description, it seems that I am
not qualified for these job opening below. :-)
definitely
is
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : We just had a very big project coming in, totalling $800 mil. We definitely : need a lot of water and wastewater engineers with 4+ years of experience ( : anyone interested?). Also, my boss proposed to open up two new departments : in the next few years, one is R&D (we don't have it right now), the other is : transportation.
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a********n 发帖数: 102 | 14 可能不同公司不一样,我面试时公司里的人直接跟我说得,因为一年里总是有请假等等
,所以实际拿到的钱会小于理论年薪。这是个很大的公司,所以可能比较官僚。
actual pay is exactly at the promised pay rate, if not higher.
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : still doesn't make sense to me. at least at my firm and my LG's firm, the actual pay is exactly at the promised pay rate, if not higher.
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m*******e 发帖数: 438 | 15 真牛啊~
版上找工作的xdjm一定要狂投littleokdu mm的公司啊!人家公司是钱多了愁着往外送
,你们要去了其他公司被炸干了还挣不到钱,惨绝人寰啊!
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好奇,大家都觉得自己挣钱不容易,不知道谁跟我似的,总替公司算钱,生怕公司给大 : 家发钱发多了。我们一年129个钟头paid vacation,再加上那些paid holidays,保险 : (我们自己只用出1刀/pay period),出差,开会,bonus (up to 10%) 等等,我这才 : 干没多久,还晕着呢,头儿就主动批了给长工资,7.5% or higher... : 我生怕公司撑不住。刚刚还按平均一个人hourly rate 30刀算了算,2080 hr/yr, 看差 : 不多是去年总billing的1/3多些,才放心点。我家LG总是说我想法比较不对路子,估计 : 这个也是。
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m*******e 发帖数: 438 | 16 这个不应该,我也是个很大的公司,虽然很多事情比较官僚,但是年薪一定是和offer
letter上一样的。如果你真的要请personal leave,那是你个人的事情,公司不能
assume for you
【在 a********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可能不同公司不一样,我面试时公司里的人直接跟我说得,因为一年里总是有请假等等 : ,所以实际拿到的钱会小于理论年薪。这是个很大的公司,所以可能比较官僚。 : : actual pay is exactly at the promised pay rate, if not higher.
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 17 are you willing to relocate? you would be highly qualified.
am
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : $800 M on construction costs or consulting fees only?? But anyway, it is : definitely a big project. Based on your job description, it seems that I am : not qualified for these job opening below. :-) : : definitely : is
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 18 I don't think there is any valid ground to make any comparison between the
firms w/o knowing the details.
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 真牛啊~ : 版上找工作的xdjm一定要狂投littleokdu mm的公司啊!人家公司是钱多了愁着往外送 : ,你们要去了其他公司被炸干了还挣不到钱,惨绝人寰啊!
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 19 normally, medium size companies treat employees much better than nationwide
big size companies do. Since there are too many talent enmployees in big
companies. Unless smaller companies, big boys do not care much about
keeping their employees.
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 真牛啊~ : 版上找工作的xdjm一定要狂投littleokdu mm的公司啊!人家公司是钱多了愁着往外送 : ,你们要去了其他公司被炸干了还挣不到钱,惨绝人寰啊!
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a*****a 发帖数: 1038 | 20 Probably not. But anyway, I really appreciate your words.
【在 l********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : are you willing to relocate? you would be highly qualified. : : am
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 21 seems the size of the firm matters. In my LG's firm (top 1 on the ENR list),
an employee with 2-year experience could be considered as senior because
people come and go very fast. In my firm, a mid-sized one, many people, I
mean >70%, have been here for 10+ years.
My boss started with a fairly big firm and got fed up after a few months.
His experience with that firm made him hate consulting. He thought about
quitting engineering consulting for a while. Before he found anything else,
he decided
【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : normally, medium size companies treat employees much better than nationwide : big size companies do. Since there are too many talent enmployees in big : companies. Unless smaller companies, big boys do not care much about : keeping their employees.
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j**********g 发帖数: 20 | 22 Jacobs? Fluor?They are not pure environment company. No wonder you can get a
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l********u 发帖数: 823 | 23 my pay is only fair, not high.
anything special with Jacobs or Fluor? I haven't heard about these two names
before.
a
【在 j**********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Jacobs? Fluor?They are not pure environment company. No wonder you can get a : better pay.
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