t**********g
发帖数: 920 | 1 就是有点好奇，为什么没有stanford或者Berkley这种学校的教授学生到AWWA和WEFTEC
做报告，偶尔有点点缀就是UT-Austin或者Georgia Tech，这些学校的老师学生搞科研
不关心行业动态？还是有其他的会议可以参加？或者他们参加了我没有看到？ |
m*l
发帖数: 507 | 2 如果你看两眼会议论文就知道为啥了。
这些是行业协会，不是学术协会。PAPER的水平大部分都是项目总结之类，实用性很强
，没多少研究价值。 |
a********n
发帖数: 102 | 3 去了也会受打击的，根本没人听
去年去weftec，听众最少的就是最学术的，比如分子生物学什么的，只有几个人在听，
还都是大学教授
WEFTEC
【在 t**********g 的大作中提到】
: 就是有点好奇，为什么没有stanford或者Berkley这种学校的教授学生到AWWA和WEFTEC
: 做报告，偶尔有点点缀就是UT-Austin或者Georgia Tech，这些学校的老师学生搞科研
: 不关心行业动态？还是有其他的会议可以参加？或者他们参加了我没有看到？
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a*****e
发帖数: 2503 | 4 there is one time AWWA had one conference in SA, TX, none of the professors in our department wanted to go there because they did not want to meet industry guys. However, they invited them and SA/TX is close to my university.
Finally they decided to send the youngest, female, newly joined Chinese professor in
our department to that conference and all the relative senior professors did not
want to go there and give a presentation. And she told me that I might not see something with "academic valu |
t**********g
发帖数: 920 | 5 有意思，我知道有些教授也从industry拿钱的，能拿NSF的毕竟不多啊。我觉得研究能
够解决实际问题给我带来的成就感比较直接－－是不是比较浮浅？
professors in our department wanted to go there because they did not want to
meet industry guys. However, they invited them and SA/TX is close to my
university.
professor in
did not
see something with "academic value" there.
in top university like Standford will not consider these industry/vender
oriented conference.
different routes. Sometime they look down each other. One of my coworkers,
who is a relative important guy
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: there is one time AWWA had one conference in SA, TX, none of the professors in our department wanted to go there because they did not want to meet industry guys. However, they invited them and SA/TX is close to my university.
: Finally they decided to send the youngest, female, newly joined Chinese professor in
: our department to that conference and all the relative senior professors did not
: want to go there and give a presentation. And she told me that I might not see something with "academic valu
|
o**e
发帖数: 542 | 6 工业界搞研发的也有看不起学术界的，有次一个总工跟我讲，我们的研发都是很
serious的，好像学术界在他眼里都是瞎混 |
a*****e
发帖数: 2503 | 7
I used to think it like this too.
But later when I talked with some so called famous professors, I felt that
they felt those "industry money" cannot prove themselves and they would
prefer to be a little poor than getting money from some assocation/industry.
One young professor once said something like your professor could easily get
money from industry but he did not want to......
It seems that some "good" universities prefer some fundermental research.
For me, I have no idea. I am not a profes
【在 t**********g 的大作中提到】
: 有意思，我知道有些教授也从industry拿钱的，能拿NSF的毕竟不多啊。我觉得研究能
: 够解决实际问题给我带来的成就感比较直接－－是不是比较浮浅？
:
: professors in our department wanted to go there because they did not want to
: meet industry guys. However, they invited them and SA/TX is close to my
: university.
: professor in
: did not
: see something with "academic value" there.
: in top university like Standford will not consider these industry/vender
|
a*****e
发帖数: 2503 | 8 one of my senior classmates turned to be a faculty recently. He phoned me and
said two funny things
1. He went to GM and had an interview there, he felt that those research
engineers there knew much more than he knew. He said what he had done seems
really naive in those research engineers eyes.
however, two of his papers were cited over 500 times, pretty good citation. And he is only 31, published these papers 3-4 years ago. So I suppose there would be more citation in the future which means aca
【在 o**e 的大作中提到】
: 工业界搞研发的也有看不起学术界的，有次一个总工跟我讲，我们的研发都是很
: serious的，好像学术界在他眼里都是瞎混
|
r****x
发帖数: 3613 | 9 什么叫做real stuff啊，怎么定义
and
seems
very
of
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: one of my senior classmates turned to be a faculty recently. He phoned me and
: said two funny things
: 1. He went to GM and had an interview there, he felt that those research
: engineers there knew much more than he knew. He said what he had done seems
: really naive in those research engineers eyes.
: however, two of his papers were cited over 500 times, pretty good citation. And he is only 31, published these papers 3-4 years ago. So I suppose there would be more citation in the future which means aca
|
a*****e
发帖数: 2503 | 10 I suppose he means something could be used in real world.
His research is related with nano.
【在 r****x 的大作中提到】
: 什么叫做real stuff啊，怎么定义
:
: and
: seems
: very
: of
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r****x
发帖数: 3613 | 11 他短视了
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: I suppose he means something could be used in real world.
: His research is related with nano.
|
h*****k
发帖数: 744 | 12 工业界的funding, 目的性很强,或者说, "功利性"很强, 要求短期内就出"实用"的结果
. 这也容易理解, 开公司, 就是要赚钱, 哪能象NSF那样做"散财童子".
俺也知道一个例子, 类似于anisole师兄的第二个故事, 不过那个教授(成名很早了)后
来做的研究都很浅, 因为之前的积累, 和公司的关系不错, 能从公司拿到钱. 他一直都
有博士生毕业, 但俺感觉这些学生做的是"测试"工作, 而不是"research". |
a*****a
发帖数: 1038 | 13 Perhaps their research topics are completely out of touch with hot issues at
water industry. If there are no sessions opening for their topics, their
conference paper will not be accepted. Or maybe they even did not submit
them. The reason that so many folks from Georgia Tech attending the AWWA
conference in Atlanta is that their professors do not pay their traveling
cost, such as air fare and hotel.
WEFTEC
【在 t**********g 的大作中提到】
: 就是有点好奇，为什么没有stanford或者Berkley这种学校的教授学生到AWWA和WEFTEC
: 做报告，偶尔有点点缀就是UT-Austin或者Georgia Tech，这些学校的老师学生搞科研
: 不关心行业动态？还是有其他的会议可以参加？或者他们参加了我没有看到？
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