h******g
发帖数: 121 | 1 1) 听很多人说不是真正意义上的tenure track? 哪是什么？
2）拿这种tenure track的意义在哪里？ |
o*******s
发帖数: 1375 | 2 医学院的tenure track就是给你一个好听点的名字.
仅此而已. |
h******g
发帖数: 121 | 3 据说，如果没有fund,也可以被支持多年，是这样么？
【在 o*******s 的大作中提到】
: 医学院的tenure track就是给你一个好听点的名字.
: 仅此而已.
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D*********t
发帖数: 370 | 4 Some medical schools require you to recover 70% of your salary. Some state
medical schools (such as Univ California systems) pay your base salary by
state money. Once tenured, you can stay "forever." But you have to take
salary reduction if you don't get external funding, unless you do other "
services", such as teaching, acting as a director or chair, etc.
In general, medical school faculty members get higher base salaries (than
those in Arts&Sciences schools), have a heavier burden to get f
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 1) 听很多人说不是真正意义上的tenure track? 哪是什么？
: 2）拿这种tenure track的意义在哪里？
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l********g
发帖数: 400 | 5 这位显然对医学院一无所知. 最好是自己先搞懂了再回答他人的问题.
Tenure 是大学的tenure, 不是某个学院的 tenure.
【在 o*******s 的大作中提到】
: 医学院的tenure track就是给你一个好听点的名字.
: 仅此而已.
|
o*******s
发帖数: 1375 | 6 我认识的一些医学院的有所谓tenure的正教授都说他们的tenure跟其他系的是不好比的
,不是真正的tenure.如果找到有真正tenure的机会,他们一般都会换工作的.其中一个就
换了.
也许我认识的人是特例.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 这位显然对医学院一无所知. 最好是自己先搞懂了再回答他人的问题.
: Tenure 是大学的tenure, 不是某个学院的 tenure.
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l********g
发帖数: 400 | 7 如果医学院都没有真正的 tenure, 他们到哪里去找真正的tenure? 换到哪里去? 是换
到工学院去, 还是换到商学院去?
建议你读一下楼上 DrBiology 的回复. 他肯定是医学院 tenured 的faculty.
【在 o*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我认识的一些医学院的有所谓tenure的正教授都说他们的tenure跟其他系的是不好比的
: ,不是真正的tenure.如果找到有真正tenure的机会,他们一般都会换工作的.其中一个就
: 换了.
: 也许我认识的人是特例.
|
o*******s
发帖数: 1375 | 8 我不知道是不是所有医学院的tenure都象下面例子中的一样. 但是我知道象下面那样的
例子是很多的. Tenure in medical school is very different from tenure in
other schools. 有的学校就是给你一个title而已.让你出去介绍自己的时候感到proud
一点.
http://www.emory.edu/ACAD_EXCHANGE/2004/decjan/tenmed.html
Tenure in the Medical School
What is it, and what does it mean?
In 1992, Daniel Kirschenbaum received the surprise of his life. Kirschenbaum
was a tenured psychologist in the medical school at Northwestern University
. There, he ran an eating disorders clinic and conducted re
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 如果医学院都没有真正的 tenure, 他们到哪里去找真正的tenure? 换到哪里去? 是换
: 到工学院去, 还是换到商学院去?
: 建议你读一下楼上 DrBiology 的回复. 他肯定是医学院 tenured 的faculty.
|
o****y
发帖数: 790 | 9 Eye-opening ...
proud
Kirschenbaum
University
【在 o*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我不知道是不是所有医学院的tenure都象下面例子中的一样. 但是我知道象下面那样的
: 例子是很多的. Tenure in medical school is very different from tenure in
: other schools. 有的学校就是给你一个title而已.让你出去介绍自己的时候感到proud
: 一点.
: http://www.emory.edu/ACAD_EXCHANGE/2004/decjan/tenmed.html
: Tenure in the Medical School
: What is it, and what does it mean?
: In 1992, Daniel Kirschenbaum received the surprise of his life. Kirschenbaum
: was a tenured psychologist in the medical school at Northwestern University
: . There, he ran an eating disorders clinic and conducted re
|
o*******s
发帖数: 1375 | 10 这个是更具有统计意义的报导.
http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/publications/news/news-now/professional-issues/20100524tenure.html
Tenure Does Not Guarantee Salary in U.S. Medical Schools
By News Staff
5/24/2010
Family physicians considering academic appointments should be aware that
gaining tenure does not necessarily mean medical school faculty members are
guaranteed a particular salary. In fact, an increasing number of medical
schools do not provide financial guarantees with tenure among either
clinical or |
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l********g
发帖数: 400 | 11 医学院的工资结构和其他学院相差太大, 是很难跟其他学院的人讲清楚的.
其实, DrBiologist 的回帖已经解释得比较清楚了, 但显然有的人还是没有看懂.
如果医学院的tenure 如此一文不值, 只是好听一点, 会有这么多如此优秀的人想要医
学院 tenure track 的位子吗? 会有人为了tenure 没日没夜地干六年吗? |
S**********l
发帖数: 3835 | 12 harvard medical school 据说是100% soft money.那里一个prof.说,this is not
university, this is prison...
【在 h******g 的大作中提到】
: 1) 听很多人说不是真正意义上的tenure track? 哪是什么？
: 2）拿这种tenure track的意义在哪里？
|
k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 13 太有喜感了。哈哈。
you have tenure and title, but not salary.
和国军快完蛋的时候，四处空投闽南反共游击军第xx纵队少将司令的委任状和军装一样
。
proud
Kirschenbaum
University
【在 o*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我不知道是不是所有医学院的tenure都象下面例子中的一样. 但是我知道象下面那样的
: 例子是很多的. Tenure in medical school is very different from tenure in
: other schools. 有的学校就是给你一个title而已.让你出去介绍自己的时候感到proud
: 一点.
: http://www.emory.edu/ACAD_EXCHANGE/2004/decjan/tenmed.html
: Tenure in the Medical School
: What is it, and what does it mean?
: In 1992, Daniel Kirschenbaum received the surprise of his life. Kirschenbaum
: was a tenured psychologist in the medical school at Northwestern University
: . There, he ran an eating disorders clinic and conducted re
|
i******s
发帖数: 8734 | 14 很多不需要funding ,base 从学校走, 其他部分从医院的clinical 出
state
which
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】
: Some medical schools require you to recover 70% of your salary. Some state
: medical schools (such as Univ California systems) pay your base salary by
: state money. Once tenured, you can stay "forever." But you have to take
: salary reduction if you don't get external funding, unless you do other "
: services", such as teaching, acting as a director or chair, etc.
: In general, medical school faculty members get higher base salaries (than
: those in Arts&Sciences schools), have a heavier burden to get f
|
h******g
发帖数: 121 | 15 这样的tenure track有意义么？以后有机会跳到 engineering school 么？
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 很多不需要funding ,base 从学校走, 其他部分从医院的clinical 出
:
: state
: which
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