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b**c
发帖数: 82

本人商学院新AP,最近我的phd dissertation中的一部分被一个ieee transaction接受
了。因为文章长度超过了长度限制，需要交Mandatory Overlength Page Charges.我的
phd导师是唯一的coauthor（第二作者），他主动offer付overlength page charges，
但是他要求做corresponding author，并且强调要把这个注明到他的名字旁边。他的理
由是为了从他的学校的account要钱，他必须得是一作或corresponding author。
这篇paper的整个submission和review process都是我负责的，写给editor的信里也注
明我是corresponding author（我导师要求的）。此外paper的idea是我想的，model是
我建的，所有工作和写作也是我一个人做的，而他只建议了不到10个语法和用词方面的
修改（另外，他不是什么大牛，甚至都不是小牛，有没有他的名字不会影响文章是否被
接受。当初加他名字只是因为他是我的advisor,处于礼貌还有他对我的鼓励）。现在文
章被接受了，他突然提出了这么一个要求，我实在费解。
其实我不需要他来付这个钱，因为我的学校可以帮我付的。但是他一定坚持要付，而且
一连发了3封信强调最后上传的paper里必须把他注明为corresponding author.
我知道在science领域诸如物理，生物，化学，corresponding author很重要。但是在
management science领域，我很少见到有人强调是corresponding author。本来我不关
心什么这个问题的，但是他这么一强调，反而让我很疑惑。请问诸位到底在商学院（或
管理科学领域），corresponding author有多么重要？尤其是对于以后promotion或者
是跳槽。
非常感谢。

c******a
发帖数: 633

我的理解所谓Corresponding author就是能找到的人，比如想要文章（也被引申为出了
问题找谁。正常情况，导师肯定是Corresponding author。很奇怪，博士生写文章不加
导师。

H******r
发帖数: 2879

Corresponding author is usually the senior author - quite important for
promotion.

b**c
发帖数: 82

谢谢你的回复。
可能你误解了我的意思。我并不是不愿加导师的名字。只是很奇怪为什么他要强调他要
在他的名字旁加注一个corresponding author。此外，他还说如果以后如果有关于这篇
文章问题发给他，他会“forward”给我。如果这样的话，不是把我注明为
corresponding author更省事？
你说的“正常情况，导师肯定是Corresponding author”可能在生物，化学领域更普遍
。但是在管理领域我很少看到有人特别注明是corresponding author，所以我才好奇到
底这个“corresponding author”有多重要，是否能够增加作者的credit。

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

: 我的理解所谓Corresponding author就是能找到的人，比如想要文章（也被引申为出了
: 问题找谁。正常情况，导师肯定是Corresponding author。很奇怪，博士生写文章不加
: 导师。

b**c
发帖数: 82

Did you mean corresponding author is important for promotion for senior
professors only or also important for junior professors?
The case for my advisor is that he has been serving as an associate
professor for 10+ years. This journal is considered an A journal in the
school, so, are you suggesting that being the corresponding author will earn
him some credits and could help him get promoted to full professor in the
future.
But, do I lose any credits by having him as the corresponding author? I don'
t mean to be skeptical, it is just that, as a junior faculty, I am probably
in a position that needs this credit more than he does.

【在 H******r 的大作中提到】

: Corresponding author is usually the senior author - quite important for
: promotion.

w********h
发帖数: 12367

well, he was your PhD advisor, he deserves the corresponding authorship.
if you want to be corresponding author, just tell him you will pay the
charge.

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: 本人商学院新AP,最近我的phd dissertation中的一部分被一个ieee transaction接受
: 了。因为文章长度超过了长度限制，需要交Mandatory Overlength Page Charges.我的
: phd导师是唯一的coauthor（第二作者），他主动offer付overlength page charges，
: 但是他要求做corresponding author，并且强调要把这个注明到他的名字旁边。他的理
: 由是为了从他的学校的account要钱，他必须得是一作或corresponding author。
: 这篇paper的整个submission和review process都是我负责的，写给editor的信里也注
: 明我是corresponding author（我导师要求的）。此外paper的idea是我想的，model是
: 我建的，所有工作和写作也是我一个人做的，而他只建议了不到10个语法和用词方面的
: 修改（另外，他不是什么大牛，甚至都不是小牛，有没有他的名字不会影响文章是否被
: 接受。当初加他名字只是因为他是我的advisor,处于礼貌还有他对我的鼓励）。现在文

p*****e
发帖数: 86

No, corresponding author is extremely important for junior professor in b
school. You will be evaluated in this regard. If you give it to your advisor
, you will not receive credit for this paper. It does not make sense to give
it away since you need it more

b**c
发帖数: 82

I did tell him that I don't mind paying for the charges, but he refused and
insisted that he will handle the charges, but he needs to be listed as the
corresponding author in order to get reimbursed from this school account :-(

【在 w********h 的大作中提到】

: well, he was your PhD advisor, he deserves the corresponding authorship.
: if you want to be corresponding author, just tell him you will pay the
: charge.

a*****e
发帖数: 4577

你的dissertation里的工作，就是你Phd期间完成的
除非你和老板有什么deal，否则老板应该是corresponding author。
也就是说，这篇文章实际上本应是属于你原来的学校的。
这个和谁来交钱是没有关系。
我觉得你可以和他说明这篇文章对你的重要性，看他是否理解。
不过看样子似乎他很想要这篇文章。
争下去应该说你是不占理的。
你当年如果想自己占有这篇文章，就不应该把它写进dissertation.

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

b**c
发帖数: 82

Thank you for your information. Are you also in b school? Is corresponding
author considered as important as the first author in your school? I am
confused because normally we would not indicate the corresponding author in
our journals while people in biology or chemistry often do this.

advisor
give

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】

: No, corresponding author is extremely important for junior professor in b
: school. You will be evaluated in this regard. If you give it to your advisor
: , you will not receive credit for this paper. It does not make sense to give
: it away since you need it more

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p*****e
发帖数: 86

Then he can go f himself. Eco is not physics. You do your own job. Tell him
your department requires x A journal to be tenured. You need to be prepared
for that

p*****e
发帖数: 86

Be cautious about those suggestions from engineering or physical sciences.
They have different norms. If they are not in b school, they possibly should
refrain from giving suggestions. I am in interdisciplinay field, related to
econ

b**c
发帖数: 82

商学院跟其他专业有些不同。phd学生基本都是teaching assistant.我们是系里给钱的
，不拿advisor的一分钱。所以教授并非是传统意义上的”老板“。我的理解是
dissertation不同与patent或者funding，是属于自己的，而不是属于学校的。如果不
正确，请指正。

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】

: 你的dissertation里的工作，就是你Phd期间完成的
: 除非你和老板有什么deal，否则老板应该是corresponding author。
: 也就是说，这篇文章实际上本应是属于你原来的学校的。
: 这个和谁来交钱是没有关系。
: 我觉得你可以和他说明这篇文章对你的重要性，看他是否理解。
: 不过看样子似乎他很想要这篇文章。
: 争下去应该说你是不占理的。
: 你当年如果想自己占有这篇文章，就不应该把它写进dissertation.

w****y
发帖数: 2501

莫非他觉得你不够成熟，遇到问题什么的不能handle？
或者他想掌握关于这篇文章的联络主动，也许这篇文中是他research计划中的一步

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢你的回复。
: 可能你误解了我的意思。我并不是不愿加导师的名字。只是很奇怪为什么他要强调他要
: 在他的名字旁加注一个corresponding author。此外，他还说如果以后如果有关于这篇
: 文章问题发给他，他会“forward”给我。如果这样的话，不是把我注明为
: corresponding author更省事？
: 你说的“正常情况，导师肯定是Corresponding author”可能在生物，化学领域更普遍
: 。但是在管理领域我很少看到有人特别注明是corresponding author，所以我才好奇到
: 底这个“corresponding author”有多重要，是否能够增加作者的credit。

r****9
发帖数: 4961

Just say you need to be listed as corresponding author to receive full
credit for this paper for your future career. You thank him for the offer
but will pay the charge yourself.

w********h
发帖数: 12367

then just go ahead pay the fee and tell you former advisor you have paid and
this paper is important for your career.

and
-(

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: I did tell him that I don't mind paying for the charges, but he refused and
: insisted that he will handle the charges, but he needs to be listed as the
: corresponding author in order to get reimbursed from this school account :-(

s***r
发帖数: 1121

At least in my area (accounting/finance), nobody cares about corresponding
author, as we list authors alphabetically.

t****h
发帖数: 185

It is much more important to foster a culture of collaboration and sustain
relationship than to fight for the authorship of a paper.
Your future depends on how well you work with others. Do not bother with a
subtlety in a paper in the starting phase of your career.

d*****r
发帖数: 1635

我是商学院。
Corresponding author不重要。
重要的是第一作者。
你这次就给他，今后不要同他合作了。
Single author paper是最最重要的。

A******d
发帖数: 571

说的对

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】

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A******d
发帖数: 571

是属于你和老板共有的。
很多biology和chemistry的学生也是TA,老板不给一分钱，但这并不能阻止老板成为通
讯作者。
我认为你作为第一作者也是有助于你的promotion的。不要因为这事情和前老板搞僵。
不划算

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: 商学院跟其他专业有些不同。phd学生基本都是teaching assistant.我们是系里给钱的
: ，不拿advisor的一分钱。所以教授并非是传统意义上的”老板“。我的理解是
: dissertation不同与patent或者funding，是属于自己的，而不是属于学校的。如果不
: 正确，请指正。

H******r
发帖数: 2879

同意

【在 A******d 的大作中提到】

: 是属于你和老板共有的。
: 很多biology和chemistry的学生也是TA,老板不给一分钱，但这并不能阻止老板成为通
: 讯作者。
: 我认为你作为第一作者也是有助于你的promotion的。不要因为这事情和前老板搞僵。
: 不划算

b**c
发帖数: 82

thank you for your suggestion. I was also worried about ruining our
relationships. That's why when he made this request, I did not say "no" to
him. But I was irritated because he asked me to be the corresponding author
through the entire review process but insisted that he would be the
corresponding author once the paper was finally accepted.

【在 t****h 的大作中提到】

: It is much more important to foster a culture of collaboration and sustain
: relationship than to fight for the authorship of a paper.
: Your future depends on how well you work with others. Do not bother with a
: subtlety in a paper in the starting phase of your career.

b**c
发帖数: 82

I wish I could say that to him. But I will still ask him for things like
letter of recommendations in the future...

him
prepared

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】

: Then he can go f himself. Eco is not physics. You do your own job. Tell him
: your department requires x A journal to be tenured. You need to be prepared
: for that

b**c
发帖数: 82

In fact, he had uploaded the form to agree the payment for the charges
immediately after receiving the acceptance letter, leaving me no chance to
argue with him...

and

【在 w********h 的大作中提到】

: then just go ahead pay the fee and tell you former advisor you have paid and
: this paper is important for your career.
:
: and
: -(

b**c
发帖数: 82

Thanks for your suggestion.
I actually thought the same as you. I did not give a thought to this issue
until he recently sent me three emails, asking me to indicate him as the
corresponding author in the final version of the manuscript.
I was a bit irritated by his action. Why would he care so much if
corresponding author indeed does not mean too much? Is it true that the only
reason for that is he has to be the corresponding author in order to claim
full reimbursement from the school? I don't know if I worried too much and
if I misunderstood his purpose.

【在 d*****r 的大作中提到】

: 我是商学院。
: Corresponding author不重要。
: 重要的是第一作者。
: 你这次就给他，今后不要同他合作了。
: Single author paper是最最重要的。

P****d
发帖数: 564

Ask your chair or senior colleagues in the department. If you don't
feel comfortable, ask a hypothetical question in terms of career planning.
They can give you the most accurate answer in terms of what matters where
you are.

only
claim

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: Thanks for your suggestion.
: I actually thought the same as you. I did not give a thought to this issue
: until he recently sent me three emails, asking me to indicate him as the
: corresponding author in the final version of the manuscript.
: I was a bit irritated by his action. Why would he care so much if
: corresponding author indeed does not mean too much? Is it true that the only
: reason for that is he has to be the corresponding author in order to claim
: full reimbursement from the school? I don't know if I worried too much and
: if I misunderstood his purpose.

b**c
发帖数: 82

True, this is the norm for management and economics. Then, who are the
corresponding authors then? Is there any norm as well for being the
corresponding author?

【在 s***r 的大作中提到】

: At least in my area (accounting/finance), nobody cares about corresponding
: author, as we list authors alphabetically.

c******a
发帖数: 633

有想到一个问题，你的署名还是原单位吗？理论上讲必须用原单位，不过有些好心的导
师让学生用现在的单位，为了避免版权问题，导师一定写为通讯作者，因为在原单位根
本找不到你。

c***e
发帖数: 1207

yes

【在 A******d 的大作中提到】

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b**c
发帖数: 82

我也希望是最后一次。但是我还有几篇paper有advisor的名字。就在昨天他和我说他要
作我的一篇即将要投的paper的corresponding author（这篇主要是我和另一个老师的
工作，他会是最后的作者，但是他强烈要求由他来submit）。而且他会写到文章中去。
如果像很多朋友回复的那样，corresponding author does not mean anything, then
why he is giving so much attention to it?

【在 d*****r 的大作中提到】

: 我是商学院。
: Corresponding author不重要。
: 重要的是第一作者。
: 你这次就给他，今后不要同他合作了。
: Single author paper是最最重要的。

b**c
发帖数: 82

我的是现在的单位。好像大家都是用current affiliation的，这样的话，paper可以算
到tenure里去。

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

: 有想到一个问题，你的署名还是原单位吗？理论上讲必须用原单位，不过有些好心的导
: 师让学生用现在的单位，为了避免版权问题，导师一定写为通讯作者，因为在原单位根
: 本找不到你。

m*****8
发帖数: 107

Great point. This is the most probable reason.
Regardless, I don't see why he cannot be the corresponding author.

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

k***i
发帖数: 662

一个问题，
对于engineering系，corresponding author有多重要？

c******a
发帖数: 633

你导师人真好！别纠结啦。

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: 我的是现在的单位。好像大家都是用current affiliation的，这样的话，paper可以算
: 到tenure里去。

H******r
发帖数: 2879

哦？我觉得这是应该的啊。你写地址就是为了人家能找到你，当然留最新的。

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

: 你导师人真好！别纠结啦。

Y*******i
发帖数: 345

你不了解商学院的情况，还是不要发言了

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

w********h
发帖数: 12367

很重要。
第一作者是你学生，然后你是通讯作者，这表明你对此文章拥有绝对贡献。

【在 k***i 的大作中提到】

: 一个问题，
: 对于engineering系，corresponding author有多重要？

Y*******i
发帖数: 345

商学院毕业的，把自己论文发了，不加导师名字的多了去了
随便举个例子：
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304405X819001

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

w********h
发帖数: 12367

ft...then this time just let go bah, if you don't want to break the bridge...

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: In fact, he had uploaded the form to agree the payment for the charges
: immediately after receiving the acceptance letter, leaving me no chance to
: argue with him...
:
: and

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g********r
发帖数: 8017

审稿过程让你做correspondence可能只是为了省事。我不是商学的。我的老板让我提交
过，最后当然注明他是通讯作者。现在我也让学生自己提交。初稿不标，由一作提交。
最后一稿再标明通讯。

author

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

: thank you for your suggestion. I was also worried about ruining our
: relationships. That's why when he made this request, I did not say "no" to
: him. But I was irritated because he asked me to be the corresponding author
: through the entire review process but insisted that he would be the
: corresponding author once the paper was finally accepted.

s****7
发帖数: 180

我是商学院的，不觉得通讯作者有第一作者 (Leading author)重要。

w**a
发帖数: 1024

主动加他。可以两人都是通讯作者。多一个人帮你对以有好处。

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

l******f
发帖数: 42

Funny to see the so many responses from people who don't know a damn thing
about business school.
Don't think corresponding author mean anything for b-school. First author is
more important. Actually I rarely see any management paper has a
corresponding author. I am pretty sure our school don't even look at this
for P&T.

h*******r
发帖数: 83

NO first author, all equally contributed.

is

【在 l******f 的大作中提到】

: Funny to see the so many responses from people who don't know a damn thing
: about business school.
: Don't think corresponding author mean anything for b-school. First author is
: more important. Actually I rarely see any management paper has a
: corresponding author. I am pretty sure our school don't even look at this
: for P&T.

j**u
发帖数: 6059

我见过两个corresponding author的文章。

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

v*******y
发帖数: 5530

For the majors I know in bschool, there is no so-called first author, as the
authors are ranked alphabetically. One person will be listed as
corresponding
author for email correspondence purpose only, usually the most senior person
. People give more credit to the most senior person on the paper anyway.
It's perfectly normal/okay for a new AP to publish her dissertation without
listing her advisor's name on the paper. In fact, a good advisor should
encourage the student to do so.

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

R**x
发帖数: 310

我不同意通讯作者不重要。如果总编看好你的文章要请你评审文章，他只会联系通讯作
者。为好期刊作评审长期而言对资浅的ap还是有好处的。

the
person
without

【在 v*******y 的大作中提到】

: For the majors I know in bschool, there is no so-called first author, as the
: authors are ranked alphabetically. One person will be listed as
: corresponding
: author for email correspondence purpose only, usually the most senior person
: . People give more credit to the most senior person on the paper anyway.
: It's perfectly normal/okay for a new AP to publish her dissertation without
: listing her advisor's name on the paper. In fact, a good advisor should
: encourage the student to do so.

d***8
发帖数: 2039

The corresponding author will be the one to get the Nobel Price if only one
of the authors could be nominated.

g********r
发帖数: 4248

==博士生写文章不加导师。
I DID ONCE

【在 c******a 的大作中提到】

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w********h
发帖数: 12367

my former labmate also did once,
simply because my advisor didn't think that paper could gain any credit for
him.

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

: ==博士生写文章不加导师。
: I DID ONCE

V**0
发帖数: 889

猜一个是不是提交的TKDE啊，据说收费还挺高的

【在 b**c 的大作中提到】

b**c
发帖数: 82

Did you communicate with your advisor before that? Was he pissed off at all?

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

: ==博士生写文章不加导师。
: I DID ONCE

b*****t
发帖数: 1700

EE很多领域根本就没有corresponding author这个说法。。

【在 k***i 的大作中提到】

: 一个问题，
: 对于engineering系，corresponding author有多重要？

U*******1
发帖数: 1565

Nothing in USA, but in China, it may be different.

(共1页)

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