w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 1 http://cen.acs.org/articles/94/i4/Processing-Dow-DuPont-Merger.
摘抄一段读者来信：
DuPont’s chief science and technology officer, Doug Muzyka, uses
meaningless jargon to cover the demise of R&D at his company (C&EN, Jan. 11,
page 5). But we need to recognize that the days of corporate research
laboratories are over.
When I was in graduate school, most large corporations had substantial R&D
labs that did high-quality science, but shuttering DuPont Central Research &
Development puts one more nail in the coffin of corporate R&D. Now even the
Department of Energy’s national laboratories merely have the patina of
science rather than real, in-depth science. What good is science, technology
, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) education if there are no decent jobs
at the end?
Jeffrey Hylden,
via C&EN’s website http://cenm.ag/dupontrndchief |
j******n
发帖数: 1727 | 2 事实就是stem专业phd回报率真的很低。时代变了。
11,
&
the
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: http://cen.acs.org/articles/94/i4/Processing-Dow-DuPont-Merger.
: 摘抄一段读者来信：
: DuPont’s chief science and technology officer, Doug Muzyka, uses
: meaningless jargon to cover the demise of R&D at his company (C&EN, Jan. 11,
: page 5). But we need to recognize that the days of corporate research
: laboratories are over.
: When I was in graduate school, most large corporations had substantial R&D
: labs that did high-quality science, but shuttering DuPont Central Research &
: Development puts one more nail in the coffin of corporate R&D. Now even the
: Department of Energy’s national laboratories merely have the patina of
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 3 /1453324288587.jpg
这张图挺震惊的，杜邦每年发表的文章从1994年的超过450篇直接滑落到2015年的50+片
。。。
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】
: 事实就是stem专业phd回报率真的很低。时代变了。
:
: 11,
: &
: the
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p*****r
发帖数: 75 | 4 By my own experience at DuPont, most patents these days are meaningless.
A senior colleague told me "The good day has long gone for exploratory
research at DuPont". People were busy with product innovations! Most of
people actually anticipated something is going to happen, because not even a
single killer product came out over the past decade from the station. |
E*****e
发帖数: 417 | 5 不知道会不会大规模裁人? 有好几个熟人在那儿, 希望大伙都没事。
a single killer product came out over the past decade from the station.
【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: By my own experience at DuPont, most patents these days are meaningless.
: A senior colleague told me "The good day has long gone for exploratory
: research at DuPont". People were busy with product innovations! Most of
: people actually anticipated something is going to happen, because not even a
: single killer product came out over the past decade from the station.
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M*P
发帖数: 6456 | 6 增加patent，减少paper，这个策略没什么问题吧？
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: http://cen.acs.org/articles/94/i4/Processing-Dow-DuPont-Merger.
: 摘抄一段读者来信：
: DuPont’s chief science and technology officer, Doug Muzyka, uses
: meaningless jargon to cover the demise of R&D at his company (C&EN, Jan. 11,
: page 5). But we need to recognize that the days of corporate research
: laboratories are over.
: When I was in graduate school, most large corporations had substantial R&D
: labs that did high-quality science, but shuttering DuPont Central Research &
: Development puts one more nail in the coffin of corporate R&D. Now even the
: Department of Energy’s national laboratories merely have the patina of
|
w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 7 文章降低了9倍，专利不过增加了2倍还有降低趋势。。
而且专利这种东西，有很多是一些小改进而已，not that meaningful。。。
文章这东西，没有足够的深度和新意，是没法发出来的。。。
【在 M*P 的大作中提到】
: 增加patent，减少paper，这个策略没什么问题吧？
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r***e
发帖数: 10135 | 8 paper会泄露公司的技术诀窍吧
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 文章降低了9倍，专利不过增加了2倍还有降低趋势。。
: 而且专利这种东西，有很多是一些小改进而已，not that meaningful。。。
: 文章这东西，没有足够的深度和新意，是没法发出来的。。。
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 9 原本很多大公司是做很基础的东西的。。。
像Exxon Mobil，以前高分子物理研究得很强，
杜邦在有机和材料合成上，也很强，当年获得诺贝尔奖的Pedersen的冠醚，Carothers
的尼龙，Kwolek的Kevlar。。。
【在 r***e 的大作中提到】
: paper会泄露公司的技术诀窍吧
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j******n
发帖数: 1727 | 10 这些公司的基础研究已经不存在了。直接后果就是没人愿意读基础学科，因为没有工作
机会。。。
Carothers
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 原本很多大公司是做很基础的东西的。。。
: 像Exxon Mobil，以前高分子物理研究得很强，
: 杜邦在有机和材料合成上，也很强，当年获得诺贝尔奖的Pedersen的冠醚，Carothers
: 的尼龙，Kwolek的Kevlar。。。
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r***e
发帖数: 10135 | 11 包给中国好了
反正大陆高校发SCI如灌水
【在 j******n 的大作中提到】
: 这些公司的基础研究已经不存在了。直接后果就是没人愿意读基础学科，因为没有工作
: 机会。。。
:
: Carothers
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s**********e
发帖数: 33562 | 12 还有比贝尔实验室更惨的吗？那里诺贝尔奖都出了不只一个啊。 |
M*P
发帖数: 6456 | 13 公司的文章都需要很久的内部审查。
在最近20-30年的时间段里，是不是政府fund的研究替代了公司的基础研究？
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 文章降低了9倍，专利不过增加了2倍还有降低趋势。。
: 而且专利这种东西，有很多是一些小改进而已，not that meaningful。。。
: 文章这东西，没有足够的深度和新意，是没法发出来的。。。
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