N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 1 昨天刚谈好的 口头协议,现在又要变卦?! 昨天说好的,孩子由双方共同抚养,分别
带50%的时间,孩子的花费也由双方平分,现在要变成孩子由她养让我出抚养费了。房
子的事情本来也说好任她选,如果她要房子,她就得付给我一定数量的现金,如果她不
要房子我就给她现金。现在要改为她拿房子,但是不给我现金而是把该给我的现金记帐
在房子上,以后她卖房子的时候再给我钱。还说如果我不答应就要去法院开单子把我赶
出去。大家说说吧,这是什么事、什么人? |
N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 2 顺便提一下,细心的读者也许知道我为什么希望至少得到对孩子50%的监护权。本来她
并不喜欢带孩子,而且以前吵架说离婚的时候,她经常说她不要孩子的。那时候孩子小
,让我带两个确实力不从心。她说我那时侯收入不够养两孩子所以我没有接受那个条件
,纯粹是胡说八道。很多博后工资比我当年的还低,人家一样养一家几口人。现在,孩
子大一点,我可以一手带他们了,她却要争孩子的护养权了。很明显,她争孩子的抚养
权,并不是她真的爱孩子,而是纯粹为了为离婚设置障碍。另外,在房子上提出那种没
有常识的无理要求,其目的也是为了设置障碍。
还有,(她不是对她的同事说过后来)她的同事(又反过来)告诉过她,她可以嫁一个
工资比我工资高几倍的人吗?富裕的生活那么唾手可得,难道还要等到下辈子才去享受
而非要和一个没有情感的人捆在一起?
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天刚谈好的 口头协议,现在又要变卦?! 昨天说好的,孩子由双方共同抚养,分别 : 带50%的时间,孩子的花费也由双方平分,现在要变成孩子由她养让我出抚养费了。房 : 子的事情本来也说好任她选,如果她要房子,她就得付给我一定数量的现金,如果她不 : 要房子我就给她现金。现在要改为她拿房子,但是不给我现金而是把该给我的现金记帐 : 在房子上,以后她卖房子的时候再给我钱。还说如果我不答应就要去法院开单子把我赶 : 出去。大家说说吧,这是什么事、什么人?
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 3 查查本州的离婚法律,监护权和财产划分方式。
财产基本均分
房子,现在就马上套现一部分,然后随她选房子或现金,谁也别赚大便宜
孩子,先争监护权,你争不到就老老实实付抚养费。由双方共同抚养也不错,她不同意
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b***b 发帖数: 13249 | 4 是不是你们两个都有外遇?
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天刚谈好的 口头协议,现在又要变卦?! 昨天说好的,孩子由双方共同抚养,分别 : 带50%的时间,孩子的花费也由双方平分,现在要变成孩子由她养让我出抚养费了。房 : 子的事情本来也说好任她选,如果她要房子,她就得付给我一定数量的现金,如果她不 : 要房子我就给她现金。现在要改为她拿房子,但是不给我现金而是把该给我的现金记帐 : 在房子上,以后她卖房子的时候再给我钱。还说如果我不答应就要去法院开单子把我赶 : 出去。大家说说吧,这是什么事、什么人?
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 6 上次因为她用椅子砸了我后还恶人先告状让我吃了官司,事后DCF的人到家里做了6个月
的工作,大家都知道DCF上门的一个重要目标就是孩子,如果再闹出事来,政府肯定会
把以保护孩子的名义把孩子带走。
顺便提一下,当年DCF的人拿她都没办法。不过本人在 DCF人的引诱下没有上套,那人
几次跟我说要我做决定(言下之意就是让我提出离婚),如果我顺了DCF人的意思,他
们可能就把孩子带走了。
【在 S****6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没用。 : 准备法庭上见。
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 7 I deleted my post yeterday just because I think you are kids's daddy.
However, you always twisted words and show that you are good man.
As you said in bbs always, you wanted to divorce, why not you never to
propose any divorce idea and plan? Why every time it is I to propose it and
consult with you for divorce plan? If I didn't ask you, you will never
response to any plan/idea.
I proposed the 50% custody at the first is just because I saw somebody else
is doing so, however, after I consulted with them, I found they have
different conditions from us, their way is not best for us. I also consulted
with my lawyer, the best thing we need to think is how to support the child
. So, yesterday I proposed that you can live the house with kids, you are
the primary custody, and I will pay for child support, but if you re-marry,
I will ask court to change the custody to me and you pay the same amount
chind support. But you said, even if you re-marry, you still want custody
and child support. That is the thing you can't agreed. Then I proposed the
another option, the house will be refiance by me and pay the morgage by
myself only, and house still wil be under both parties name. Once the kids
turns to 18year old, we can sell the house and you will get the half of the
current value and its growth. But you said, why you need to invest in this
house for me? I can't understand. Here I copied some words from local law
for this one. You can read it and think about it.
Postponing the Sale of the Marital Home
If you have children, and have sufficient assets and income to postpone the
sale of the home, it might be possible for you or your spouse (whichever of
you has custody of your children) to remain in your home with your children
until they are emancipated (i.e., until they turn eighteen, join the
military, or are no longer dependent by some other means). The court can
order that one parent live in the home with the children until that parent
remarries, decides to sell the property, or the children are emancipated.
The divorce agreement must provide when and how the proceeds of the sale of
the home will be divided (usually a percentage is given to each parent, or
one parent is guaranteed a set dollar amount). It is also important to
determine who will pay the mortgage, taxes, and repairs to the home until
the sale, and how this will affect the division of the proceeds. In any
agreement or divorce decree, it is important to state that the spouse is to
live in the marital home free of charge; this prevents the other party from
forcing a sale of the home or attempting to collect rent.
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天刚谈好的 口头协议,现在又要变卦?! 昨天说好的,孩子由双方共同抚养,分别 : 带50%的时间,孩子的花费也由双方平分,现在要变成孩子由她养让我出抚养费了。房 : 子的事情本来也说好任她选,如果她要房子,她就得付给我一定数量的现金,如果她不 : 要房子我就给她现金。现在要改为她拿房子,但是不给我现金而是把该给我的现金记帐 : 在房子上,以后她卖房子的时候再给我钱。还说如果我不答应就要去法院开单子把我赶 : 出去。大家说说吧,这是什么事、什么人?
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 8 我不记得多少年前我就开始提出要离婚的了,也不记得最近有两次都具体谈了条件后你
两次因此出车祸的离婚讨论是谁开始提出来的。到这种地步了,还需要我每天都提一遍
吗?另外,自从被迫和你在一起后,有哪怕一次我提出来的建议被你接受过了吗?即使
我提出带孩子出去旅游的建议,有过一次你不反对的吗?
我看不出有什么理由不可以各得50%监护权的方案,有什么必要把本来简单的事情弄得
那么复杂? 你能用手摸着心口告诉大家,你主意这么改来改去不是为了在财产分割上
占便宜么?
如果你真心爱孩子,为什么有那么多时间因为吵架你整天整天地置家里一切都不顾,不
管孩子吃不管孩子玩不管孩子睡,甚至都不跟孩子说话?
and
else
consulted
child
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I deleted my post yeterday just because I think you are kids's daddy. : However, you always twisted words and show that you are good man. : As you said in bbs always, you wanted to divorce, why not you never to : propose any divorce idea and plan? Why every time it is I to propose it and : consult with you for divorce plan? If I didn't ask you, you will never : response to any plan/idea. : I proposed the 50% custody at the first is just because I saw somebody else : is doing so, however, after I consulted with them, I found they have : different conditions from us, their way is not best for us. I also consulted : with my lawyer, the best thing we need to think is how to support the child
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w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 9 The mother is more reasonable. Even so, you have to go to court b/c you two
have conflict. Divorce is ugly, in most cases(80%), in the final the women
would be more generous. For about 70%-80% of men, $$ is the most important
in the world but you could know only when divorce.
and
else
consulted
child
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I deleted my post yeterday just because I think you are kids's daddy. : However, you always twisted words and show that you are good man. : As you said in bbs always, you wanted to divorce, why not you never to : propose any divorce idea and plan? Why every time it is I to propose it and : consult with you for divorce plan? If I didn't ask you, you will never : response to any plan/idea. : I proposed the 50% custody at the first is just because I saw somebody else : is doing so, however, after I consulted with them, I found they have : different conditions from us, their way is not best for us. I also consulted : with my lawyer, the best thing we need to think is how to support the child
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w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 10 争吵没用,只能让律师挣钱。看你们的情景也没啥可调解的,如果想简单,不带孩子的
一方就尽量多给对方一些,带孩子的得到的那点childsupport, 最多只能是景上添花。
看样子你们有两个孩子,按WA法律孩子们都不分开了除非你们双方同意。
离婚是最能体现人品和本性的时候,也是让人能变聪明的一个转折点。
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不记得多少年前我就开始提出要离婚的了,也不记得最近有两次都具体谈了条件后你 : 两次因此出车祸的离婚讨论是谁开始提出来的。到这种地步了,还需要我每天都提一遍 : 吗?另外,自从被迫和你在一起后,有哪怕一次我提出来的建议被你接受过了吗?即使 : 我提出带孩子出去旅游的建议,有过一次你不反对的吗? : 我看不出有什么理由不可以各得50%监护权的方案,有什么必要把本来简单的事情弄得 : 那么复杂? 你能用手摸着心口告诉大家,你主意这么改来改去不是为了在财产分割上 : 占便宜么? : 如果你真心爱孩子,为什么有那么多时间因为吵架你整天整天地置家里一切都不顾,不 : 管孩子吃不管孩子玩不管孩子睡,甚至都不跟孩子说话? :
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 11 双方都想离,那就先到法院起诉离婚--你们的居住时间肯定可以了。
有分居协议不?有则更好
同时,把条件谈一谈
房子卖掉,分钱最简单。
否则,房子套现一部分,免得分不到房子的人吃亏。由女方选要房子还是要钱。
谈不拢,那就烧钱跟律师直接由法院判 |
n***n 发帖数: 139 | 12 a quick question, do you know if the court can directly give a judge if both
parties presented all their papers?
【在 S****6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 双方都想离,那就先到法院起诉离婚--你们的居住时间肯定可以了。 : 有分居协议不?有则更好 : 同时,把条件谈一谈 : 房子卖掉,分钱最简单。 : 否则,房子套现一部分,免得分不到房子的人吃亏。由女方选要房子还是要钱。 : 谈不拢,那就烧钱跟律师直接由法院判
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 13 I didn't ask clearly, I mean, without hire a lawyer?
both
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : a quick question, do you know if the court can directly give a judge if both : parties presented all their papers?
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 14 离婚容易. 一方不愿意也挡不住。
分家产,分孩子,谈抚养费,可是太麻烦了
分孩子,谈抚养费,至少有些标准,大不了由法院判
家产,可需要很长的清单和估值和挑选。。。想起来某离婚男把所有家具都锯两半“平
均”分配的故事了。
both
http://www.divorcenet.com/states/washington
http://www.divorcenet.com/resources/divorce/divorce-basics/wash
Washington Divorce Basics
Get started here to learn about the divorce process in Washington.
Grounds for Divorce
Washington is a no-fault state, meaning that the only basis for filing for
divorce is an assertion that the marriage is irretrievably broken.
Registered domestic partners in Washington have most of the same rights and
responsibilities as married couples, and the procedure for dissolving a
domestic partnership is the same as for an opposite-sex couple's divorce.
Residency Requirement and Waiting Period
In order to file for divorce in Washington, one of the spouses must be a
resident of the state at the time the divorce action is filed.
The court won't enter a final judgment of divorce until at least 90 days
have passed from the date the divorce papers were filed in court.
Property Division
Washington is a community property state, so any property acquired during
the marriage will be divided equally between the two spouses at divorce.
Each spouse may keep any separate property that the spouse had before the
marriage began or that was received as a separate gift or inheritance. The
couple may also come to an agreement on the distribution of property and in
that situation, the property would not have to be equally divided.
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : a quick question, do you know if the court can directly give a judge if both : parties presented all their papers?
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 15 自己能谈好条件,各州都可以自助离婚
前提是双方合作,友好分手。。可你们做得到吗?
找律师审阅分手条款还是必须的,应该不花太多钱。。否则,以后孩子探访,抚养扯皮
就麻烦了。
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't ask clearly, I mean, without hire a lawyer? : : both
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 16 女的更reasonable? 你是说以前她总说不要孩子现在又要争孩子?还是她坚持她的
bonus不算共同财产?或者说她先用椅子砸我后又打电话报警并向警察撒谎让警察把我
抓紧派出所?
我真希望你和她一样"reasonabl"!
two
【在 w********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The mother is more reasonable. Even so, you have to go to court b/c you two : have conflict. Divorce is ugly, in most cases(80%), in the final the women : would be more generous. For about 70%-80% of men, $$ is the most important : in the world but you could know only when divorce. : : and : else : consulted : child
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 17 老大,醒醒,没有证据,那些“劣性”算个屁?
那些,你留到法庭说也许有点用。
现在,好多州明文说连通奸都不影响监护权和家产分配。
老老实实想想自己的条件双方商量个方案好了。
世上从来没有公平。离婚就是在起诉点的状态的大致平均分配。 |
w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 18 很理解你现在的状态,但你不是想离婚,想简单的离婚么?如果对方不让,你又不让,
如何简单?只有找律师,虽然大家都不想找律师,但你要想解决问题,律师就是挣这些
钱的。
不管是陋习还是缺点,在法庭上都没用,除非你能证明她虐待孩子,吸毒,酒后驾车被
警察抓,否则一般把孩子都是判给带孩子多的一方,但你要有证明。
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 女的更reasonable? 你是说以前她总说不要孩子现在又要争孩子?还是她坚持她的 : bonus不算共同财产?或者说她先用椅子砸我后又打电话报警并向警察撒谎让警察把我 : 抓紧派出所? : 我真希望你和她一样"reasonabl"! : : two
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h*********1 发帖数: 897 | 19 她根本就不想和你离婚。有些人是不能通过好好商量解决问题的。
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 昨天刚谈好的 口头协议,现在又要变卦?! 昨天说好的,孩子由双方共同抚养,分别 : 带50%的时间,孩子的花费也由双方平分,现在要变成孩子由她养让我出抚养费了。房 : 子的事情本来也说好任她选,如果她要房子,她就得付给我一定数量的现金,如果她不 : 要房子我就给她现金。现在要改为她拿房子,但是不给我现金而是把该给我的现金记帐 : 在房子上,以后她卖房子的时候再给我钱。还说如果我不答应就要去法院开单子把我赶 : 出去。大家说说吧,这是什么事、什么人?
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c********d 发帖数: 11593 | 20 头一次看到LZ在这里说离婚都是三年前了。喊了三年还在这里起草离婚协议,有这功夫
一个学位都读下来了喂~~~
会叫的狗不咬人,真心想离的肯定会以摆脱对方为第一要务,其他统统靠边,吃亏就吃
亏了。这夫妻俩在这里喋喋不休了那么久,估计都快把协议离婚当生活情趣了。 |
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 21 有两个原因导致她反复无常,一个方面就是任何事物或主张即使是她自己首先提出来的
,只要我认可或赞同了,她都会反对或挑刺。这一点我是从这么多年痛苦遭遇中总结出
来的,不仅限于离婚这件事情上。具体到这次离婚协议这件事,她又是想占便宜。象她
在帖子说的既然我要离婚为什么又不搬出去就也可以看出来,她想让我净身出户,把一
切都留给她,然后再给孩子抚养费。 |
m**n 发帖数: 9010 | 22 她不是说她也提议可以让你做为primary继续住在房子里, 她付你抚养费么?
唯一的要求就是你如果再结婚的话要把primary给她. 这个不能接受?
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有两个原因导致她反复无常,一个方面就是任何事物或主张即使是她自己首先提出来的 : ,只要我认可或赞同了,她都会反对或挑刺。这一点我是从这么多年痛苦遭遇中总结出 : 来的,不仅限于离婚这件事情上。具体到这次离婚协议这件事,她又是想占便宜。象她 : 在帖子说的既然我要离婚为什么又不搬出去就也可以看出来,她想让我净身出户,把一 : 切都留给她,然后再给孩子抚养费。
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 23 之所以这么多年的痛苦我一直承担着,是因为我不想让孩子完全跟了她然后变成和她一
样的人。
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 头一次看到LZ在这里说离婚都是三年前了。喊了三年还在这里起草离婚协议,有这功夫 : 一个学位都读下来了喂~~~ : 会叫的狗不咬人,真心想离的肯定会以摆脱对方为第一要务,其他统统靠边,吃亏就吃 : 亏了。这夫妻俩在这里喋喋不休了那么久,估计都快把协议离婚当生活情趣了。
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 24 她真的愿意这么做?你问清楚了?
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她不是说她也提议可以让你做为primary继续住在房子里, 她付你抚养费么? : 唯一的要求就是你如果再结婚的话要把primary给她. 这个不能接受?
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m**n 发帖数: 9010 | 25 nylin是你老婆不是?
这是前面她写的:
"So, yesterday I proposed that you can live the house with kids, you are
the primary custody, and I will pay for child support, but if you re-marry,
I will ask court to change the custody to me and you pay the same amount
chind support. But you said, even if you re-marry, you still want custody
and child support. That is the thing you can't agreed. "
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她真的愿意这么做?你问清楚了?
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 26 前天她还说了,她已经在某个apartment租好了2个卧室的房子了,下个月1号就搬进去
呢。 已前也说过类似的话。
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nylin是你老婆不是? : 这是前面她写的: : "So, yesterday I proposed that you can live the house with kids, you are : the primary custody, and I will pay for child support, but if you re-marry, : I will ask court to change the custody to me and you pay the same amount : chind support. But you said, even if you re-marry, you still want custody : and child support. That is the thing you can't agreed. "
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m**n 发帖数: 9010 | 27 前天她说什么我不知道, 反正今天她是这么说了.
如果你同意她这个提议, 你们的事就解决了.
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 前天她还说了,她已经在某个apartment租好了2个卧室的房子了,下个月1号就搬进去 : 呢。 已前也说过类似的话。
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 28 如果这么简单,这件事多年前就解决了。
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 前天她说什么我不知道, 反正今天她是这么说了. : 如果你同意她这个提议, 你们的事就解决了.
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | |
n***n 发帖数: 139 | 30 I already talked this with you yeterday night, but you didn't agree my words
about what to do if you re-marry. And, you said you will write a post here
to ask bbs people if it is resonable, but I didn't see this in your original
post.
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她真的愿意这么做?你问清楚了?
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M******k 发帖数: 27573 | 31 你跟BBS上犟嘴有什么用,别省这点钱了,找律师吧,如果你真想离的话。
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果这么简单,这件事多年前就解决了。
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 32 What I said is I found a one-bedroom apartment closing to here and can move
in on 6/1/3, and if kids come, they can live in bedroom and I live in living
room. That is not 2 bedroom.
I didn't say I already rent it. Don't twist my words.
btw, Until divorce done, I won't move out because I'm the borrower of house
loan and if you didn't pay morgage I will have trouble.
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N*******E 发帖数: 142 | 33 我是不明白,为什么如果我再婚的话,孩子就得让你带呢?这有是什么逻辑呢? 其次
,难道你就打算下半辈子一个人过?
另外,你真愿意把房子让出来,你自己去租房子?
words
here
original
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I already talked this with you yeterday night, but you didn't agree my words : about what to do if you re-marry. And, you said you will write a post here : to ask bbs people if it is resonable, but I didn't see this in your original : post.
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 34
-----------I can't tell you logic here. Maybe for most women, there is no
logic at all for such kind of issue..
其次
--------- Once I decided to divorce at my 40 yr old, yes, I prepare to do so.
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是不明白,为什么如果我再婚的话,孩子就得让你带呢?这有是什么逻辑呢? 其次 : ,难道你就打算下半辈子一个人过? : 另外,你真愿意把房子让出来,你自己去租房子? : : words : here : original
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 35 要不,
你把孩子全给她,出抚养费,如果她再婚的话,孩子就得让你带呢? |
S****6 发帖数: 214 | 36 "另外,你真愿意把房子让出来,你自己去租房子?" |
m**n 发帖数: 9010 | 37 你管她什么逻辑, 你就说自个儿接受不接受这个要求?
既然到这儿来要大家给你们出主意评判, 那么对具体的
问题, 你总要有个具体的态度吧?
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是不明白,为什么如果我再婚的话,孩子就得让你带呢?这有是什么逻辑呢? 其次 : ,难道你就打算下半辈子一个人过? : 另外,你真愿意把房子让出来,你自己去租房子? : : words : here : original
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 38 Forgot to mention, I talked with him same thing yesterday night, but, he
didn't agree, ethier.
【在 S****6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 要不, : 你把孩子全给她,出抚养费,如果她再婚的话,孩子就得让你带呢?
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M******k 发帖数: 27573 | 39 i think this couple are enjoying their open-debating...
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你管她什么逻辑, 你就说自个儿接受不接受这个要求? : 既然到这儿来要大家给你们出主意评判, 那么对具体的 : 问题, 你总要有个具体的态度吧?
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 40 I also feel shame to discuss here. But I don't have choice, I couldn't find
a way to talk with him in home.
【在 M******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think this couple are enjoying their open-debating...
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n***n 发帖数: 139 | 41 we're not rich, and I don't want to hire a lawyer to burn money, what I hope
is to sovle it in a fair, peaceful way, and especially the best way for
kids.
find
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I also feel shame to discuss here. But I don't have choice, I couldn't find : a way to talk with him in home.
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 42 该花的钱,不要“省”
否则,后半生以泪洗面的日子多着呢
现在,看着你放弃自己的条件都谈不拢,遑论未来的守信合作。除非你有未知原因放弃
孩子和房子。
hope
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : we're not rich, and I don't want to hire a lawyer to burn money, what I hope : is to sovle it in a fair, peaceful way, and especially the best way for : kids. : : find
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M******k 发帖数: 27573 | 43 Given the exchange you two had here, I don't think it is quite possible.
Again, if you two can find mutually agreed "fairness", you probably don't
have to do this divorce thing from the very beginning.
Well, if you are not the one who initiated the divorce, maybe you can play
the wait game and see.
hope
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : we're not rich, and I don't want to hire a lawyer to burn money, what I hope : is to sovle it in a fair, peaceful way, and especially the best way for : kids. : : find
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S****6 发帖数: 214 | 44 男的, 走法院, 除非女方主动放弃,估计拿不到俩孩子主要监护权
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w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 45 别把自己夸得这么无私,你认为对的不一定是正确的,你都能爱上她和她结婚,又为什
么怕孩子和她一样的人?我看关键还是你自己,不要一味看对方的毛病,认为对方变了
,实际上是你自己在变。
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 之所以这么多年的痛苦我一直承担着,是因为我不想让孩子完全跟了她然后变成和她一 : 样的人。
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w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 46 说实话,你说的是不可能的,否则就不会离婚了。
hope
【在 n***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : we're not rich, and I don't want to hire a lawyer to burn money, what I hope : is to sovle it in a fair, peaceful way, and especially the best way for : kids. : : find
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w********d 发帖数: 1131 | 47 一个大老爷们儿净身出户丢脸么?我认为那才是爷们儿!
你想想如果她带孩子,挣钱的机会会比你少的多,就打比你40岁的大老爷们儿从头再来
就那么可怕?给孩子个榜样!
【在 N*******E 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有两个原因导致她反复无常,一个方面就是任何事物或主张即使是她自己首先提出来的 : ,只要我认可或赞同了,她都会反对或挑刺。这一点我是从这么多年痛苦遭遇中总结出 : 来的,不仅限于离婚这件事情上。具体到这次离婚协议这件事,她又是想占便宜。象她 : 在帖子说的既然我要离婚为什么又不搬出去就也可以看出来,她想让我净身出户,把一 : 切都留给她,然后再给孩子抚养费。
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l**s 发帖数: 20567 | 48 RE
离婚是最能体现人品和本性的时候,也是让人能变聪明的一个转折点。
说的太对了,也就是这关键时候能看出人品
【在 w********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 争吵没用,只能让律师挣钱。看你们的情景也没啥可调解的,如果想简单,不带孩子的 : 一方就尽量多给对方一些,带孩子的得到的那点childsupport, 最多只能是景上添花。 : 看样子你们有两个孩子,按WA法律孩子们都不分开了除非你们双方同意。 : 离婚是最能体现人品和本性的时候,也是让人能变聪明的一个转折点。
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 49 女方坚持要2个孩子抚养权,男方出抚养费。房子让女方住,财产分割偏向女方一些 |
g*****A 发帖数: 14950 | 50 如果你们这样不能协议
上法院
很多人倾家荡产
三思 |