n*********3
发帖数: 534 | 1 "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but
attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope."
~by John Buchan~
"My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear
for what I said I paid for it."
~by Koos Brandt~
Titus: [about Gus' hand made fishing rod] You and I agreed, did we not, that
"rodney" is oblivious to everything, say, but some weight and varnish.
Gus: We did.
Titus: Therefore, does it follow that he is just as oblivious to Gus? Even
though Gus is his maker. Even though Gus controls his destiny. Even though
Gus' - let's go ahead and call it Gus' - is his essence.
Gus: Yes, it follows.
Titus: Then, therefore, is it possible that maybe you and I are just as
oblivious to the presence of a creator? Just as oblivious to a controller of
our destiny? Just as oblivious to our essence. An essence that wields you
and I even more deftly than you wield rodney.
Why can't a duffer like me catch a fish? Isn't the answer obvious? Isn't it
because at my present level of skill the fish would have to be so damned
dumb and utterly unelusive as to not be worth catching? And how much more
elusive should a thing as wondrous as a soul be? Fishermen should be the
easiest of men to convince to search for their souls, because fishing is
nothing but the pursuit of the elusive. How can you be so patient in
searching for fish, and so hasty to write-off your soul because you can't
see it? --Titus | s********e
发帖数: 542 | 2 第一，二个quote有意思。
第三个有个明显的逻辑错误 ：）
gear
that
【在 n*********3 的大作中提到】
: "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but
: attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope."
: ~by John Buchan~
: "My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear
: for what I said I paid for it."
: ~by Koos Brandt~
: Titus: [about Gus' hand made fishing rod] You and I agreed, did we not, that
: "rodney" is oblivious to everything, say, but some weight and varnish.
: Gus: We did.
: Titus: Therefore, does it follow that he is just as oblivious to Gus? Even
| s********e
发帖数: 542 | 3 A Quote from youtuber Richard Gene "Go fishing when you can, because it's
gooooood for ya" | n*********3
发帖数: 534 | 4
Sure, how and why, I promise I won't argue in any unpleasant way. :)
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 第一，二个quote有意思。
: 第三个有个明显的逻辑错误 ：）
:
: gear
: that
| s********e
发帖数: 542 | 5 第三个quote和钓鱼关系不大，是一个creationism的论点。
这个论点首先提出一支手工钓杆对他的制造者（人）无知觉，不可能认识。
接着类比，那么人对于他的制造者（上帝）是不是也一样不可能认识呢？
这个quote写的相当有诗意，很美好，我很喜欢。但从逻辑角度，有很大漏洞。
第一，论点把手工钓杆拟人化，是个错误，oblivious这个词的潜在含义是表示某个物
体具有一定的观察能力，而对某事却无知觉无认识。 钓杆本身没有任何观察能力。
第二，论点直接把人 类比 钓杆。凭什么两者可以这样的类比？ 先不说钓杆无观察力
，人有观察力，这是本质区别，即算是同样有观察力的两个物种，观察力也可以有量和
质的区别，可以直接导致他们对潜在创造者的认知的不同。
当然，我支持个人信仰，这里只是评论逻辑。 ：）
【在 n*********3 的大作中提到】
:
: Sure, how and why, I promise I won't argue in any unpleasant way. :)
| n*********3
发帖数: 534 | 6 :-)
xie xie.
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 第三个quote和钓鱼关系不大，是一个creationism的论点。
: 这个论点首先提出一支手工钓杆对他的制造者（人）无知觉，不可能认识。
: 接着类比，那么人对于他的制造者（上帝）是不是也一样不可能认识呢？
: 这个quote写的相当有诗意，很美好，我很喜欢。但从逻辑角度，有很大漏洞。
: 第一，论点把手工钓杆拟人化，是个错误，oblivious这个词的潜在含义是表示某个物
: 体具有一定的观察能力，而对某事却无知觉无认识。 钓杆本身没有任何观察能力。
: 第二，论点直接把人 类比 钓杆。凭什么两者可以这样的类比？ 先不说钓杆无观察力
: ，人有观察力，这是本质区别，即算是同样有观察力的两个物种，观察力也可以有量和
: 质的区别，可以直接导致他们对潜在创造者的认知的不同。
: 当然，我支持个人信仰，这里只是评论逻辑。 ：）
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