c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 1 i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
there are a lot of benefits...
why most of them never listened to? |
D****o
发帖数: 12808 | 2 b/c Chinese people in China dont do it, either.
they just follow their tradition
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 3
i didn't lift weight in China either...
follow the main stream here, esp in California.
【在 D****o 的大作中提到】
: b/c Chinese people in China dont do it, either.
: they just follow their tradition
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 4 what made u start to lift weights at the first? |
D****o
发帖数: 12808 | 5 me?
initially the cardio classes
majorly by brain wash in here
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: what made u start to lift weights at the first?
|
f*******d
发帖数: 12693 | 6 我可从来不听别人的劝告，觉得有点挑战性好玩的就做呗。
北美大多数的中国娃都是书虫，对体力上的挑战不屑一顾，所以不举。中国大陆生活的
娃生活水平还没有达到可以考虑举不举的程度，所以也不举。
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
|
s***s
发帖数: 7178 | 7 每个人有每个人的想法
不能强求
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
|
w********w
发帖数: 1550 | 8 I lift weight since high school, so are my friends.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: what made u start to lift weights at the first?
|
m***s
发帖数: 1777 | 9 举铁也不容易呀，要去Gym。俺这种一周才有一次时间去Gym的，去了就赶紧打球了。其
他时间只能在家做做简单的力量。
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
|
S****e
发帖数: 10596 | 10 it is tedious
most ball game player are just for fun
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
|
|
|
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 11 因为文化背景不一样呗
劳心者治人，劳力者治与人；君子动口不动手。。。所以中国主流文化推崇小白脸文弱书生型
而美国几乎所有东西都是抢来的，所以养成习惯，谁的拳头大就听谁的。不过被女人掌
握的pop，gossip媒体也推崇男人中性化，gay文化等。只要有大量的红脖子存在的话，
暂时美国还不会全面gay化 |
a***a
发帖数: 40617 | 12 你说的是唐以后
唐以前不是这样
再历元清大屠杀之后，中国有血性的人都被杀光了
崖山之后，再无中国
弱书生型
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 因为文化背景不一样呗
: 劳心者治人，劳力者治与人；君子动口不动手。。。所以中国主流文化推崇小白脸文弱书生型
: 而美国几乎所有东西都是抢来的，所以养成习惯，谁的拳头大就听谁的。不过被女人掌
: 握的pop，gossip媒体也推崇男人中性化，gay文化等。只要有大量的红脖子存在的话，
: 暂时美国还不会全面gay化
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 13
弱书生型
that is the tradition..
these days, even Korea, Taiwan etc eastern asians start to lift weights...
China was way behind.
It is indeed in USA the bigger, the better.
the percentageof gay guys lift weights is higher than str8t as i guess,
right?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 因为文化背景不一样呗
: 劳心者治人，劳力者治与人；君子动口不动手。。。所以中国主流文化推崇小白脸文弱书生型
: 而美国几乎所有东西都是抢来的，所以养成习惯，谁的拳头大就听谁的。不过被女人掌
: 握的pop，gossip媒体也推崇男人中性化，gay文化等。只要有大量的红脖子存在的话，
: 暂时美国还不会全面gay化
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 14 going to college used to be the #1 choice by default, these years,
in 90s, this century, it is not #1 any more for some ppl... |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 15
Maybe it's not that bad in China since we haven't stayed there for a long
period of time for years
I don't know. A lot of gay guys are weak and feminine. A few may go to gym
all the time to keep themselves in shape but I wouldn't say their percentage
is higher than straights'.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: going to college used to be the #1 choice by default, these years,
: in 90s, this century, it is not #1 any more for some ppl...
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 16 well, i went to many gyms when i visited China, the least popular area in
gym of
China is the free weight area, the heaviest db is like 50 lbs:-)
what a joke!
percentage
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
:
: Maybe it's not that bad in China since we haven't stayed there for a long
: period of time for years
: I don't know. A lot of gay guys are weak and feminine. A few may go to gym
: all the time to keep themselves in shape but I wouldn't say their percentage
: is higher than straights'.
|
f*******d
发帖数: 12693 | 17 People have right to choose their own way of living, please don't try to
enforce yours on others.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: well, i went to many gyms when i visited China, the least popular area in
: gym of
: China is the free weight area, the heaviest db is like 50 lbs:-)
: what a joke!
:
: percentage
|
S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 18 北京紫禁城里侍卫们也都举石锁
唐以前的晋才是真正崇尚小白脸，几个著名古代美男都是晋朝的
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 你说的是唐以后
: 唐以前不是这样
: 再历元清大屠杀之后，中国有血性的人都被杀光了
: 崖山之后，再无中国
:
: 弱书生型
|
S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 19 韩台恐怕很大程度是崇洋媚外，美国文化的覆盖，
美国人喜欢的他们都喜欢，比如还有棒球
这点来说，所有搞现代健身的都是受美国文化的影响，
否则应该是练石锁，蹲马步
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: well, i went to many gyms when i visited China, the least popular area in
: gym of
: China is the free weight area, the heaviest db is like 50 lbs:-)
: what a joke!
:
: percentage
|
S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 20 并不是只有健身房一种健身的方式的，
中国人健身的比例不比美国人差，
看看晨练的人们就知道了
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: well, i went to many gyms when i visited China, the least popular area in
: gym of
: China is the free weight area, the heaviest db is like 50 lbs:-)
: what a joke!
:
: percentage
|
|
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 21 USA has too short history, i would take a guess:
现代健身 is a part of western culture, originally from Greek/Roman culture
over
1000 years ago...
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 韩台恐怕很大程度是崇洋媚外，美国文化的覆盖，
: 美国人喜欢的他们都喜欢，比如还有棒球
: 这点来说，所有搞现代健身的都是受美国文化的影响，
: 否则应该是练石锁，蹲马步
|
N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 22 因为他们认为中国女生不喜欢肌肉男。。。
而实际上，很多中国女生确实不喜欢肌肉男。。。
现在很多中国女生喜欢的是花样美少年，就是戴个假发看着像女人那种男人。。。
要大面积地改变中国女生的审美，才能改变中国男生的习惯。。。 |
l******l
发帖数: 2679 | 23 True.
Male aesthetic beauty based on muscularity was originated from Greece where
the first Olympic was held. At that time, naked male bodies with muscle line
was a common scene and greatly adored and appreciated by both men and women.
The younger Chinese generations tend to be more open, especially those who
either are in the west or have great exposure to the west sports media and
entertainment. In fact, the percentage of younger Chinese involved in weight
training probably is higher than that of their older compatriots.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: USA has too short history, i would take a guess:
: 现代健身 is a part of western culture, originally from Greek/Roman culture
: over
: 1000 years ago...
|
l******l
发帖数: 2679 | 24 这是一个很重要的原因。
现代心理分析的祖师弗劳伊德有一个很经典的性的原动力理论。就是这个世界的变化
是由男人来推动的，而男人奋斗挣扎的最原始动力却是性，也就是女人。
所以要改变中国男人东亚病夫或者猥琐男的光辉形象，广大的女生们任重而道远啊！
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】
: 因为他们认为中国女生不喜欢肌肉男。。。
: 而实际上，很多中国女生确实不喜欢肌肉男。。。
: 现在很多中国女生喜欢的是花样美少年，就是戴个假发看着像女人那种男人。。。
: 要大面积地改变中国女生的审美，才能改变中国男生的习惯。。。
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 25 most of guys here focus on culture/beauty point of view,
how about from health point of view?
certain amount of weight lifting has a lot of benefit to one's health
esp when someone gets older. eg bone density... |
a******a
发帖数: 2067 | 26 这个是相对应的，中国男不喜欢看上去有肌肉线条的女人。
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】
: 因为他们认为中国女生不喜欢肌肉男。。。
: 而实际上，很多中国女生确实不喜欢肌肉男。。。
: 现在很多中国女生喜欢的是花样美少年，就是戴个假发看着像女人那种男人。。。
: 要大面积地改变中国女生的审美，才能改变中国男生的习惯。。。
|
l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 27 for me, i started in kindergarten, horizontal bar and parallel bars just
play with them. in middle school i reinforced my skills and can do some
fancy moves on horizontal bars, like rolls and the first time can pullup
over 20 times. but the true motivation is the functional improvements in
ball games, jump higher and run faster, since i was the 5th one who can
touch the basketball rim in my class in middle school, i was less than 170cm
at that time(second degree), and with a little weight training in high
school, i can dunk with a volleyball. (taller too) later in college, this is
just habit till today. |
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 28 其实在国内现在已经越来越流行了，只是因为北美大多数过来的以高学历读书的同学为
主吧～所以健身的风气相对差了一些。
当然了，国内健身房的整体水平肯定不如北美，所以才会有最高50lb哑铃的情况。
【在 D****o 的大作中提到】
: b/c Chinese people in China dont do it, either.
: they just follow their tradition
|
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 29 Not exactly true. For body building, a high protein diet is usually recommen
ded. However, a high protein diet is not healthy for the kidney in the long
run and easy to trigger inflammation. Multiple studies have shown that calor
ie restricted mice live longer than mice with regular diet.
I personally still believe that human body is like a machine with limited se
lf-repair function. As cells divide by themselves (maybe after 50 passages?
), there will be an accumulation of all kinds of problems such as DNA mutati
ons, chromosome instabilities, telomere shortage and etc. That's one of the
reasons for aging.
Although body building can increase metabolic rate, cause hypertrophy and m
ake you more energetic, it speeds up cell division and therefore increases t
he aging process. That's probably why people have incredible longevity are m
ost likely skinny and short guys rather than muscle men.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: most of guys here focus on culture/beauty point of view,
: how about from health point of view?
: certain amount of weight lifting has a lot of benefit to one's health
: esp when someone gets older. eg bone density...
|
i****s
发帖数: 313 | 30 这么说来，小弟我这样少吃又不运动的倒是可以长寿啦~~
recommen
long
calor
se
mutati
the
m
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: Not exactly true. For body building, a high protein diet is usually recommen
: ded. However, a high protein diet is not healthy for the kidney in the long
: run and easy to trigger inflammation. Multiple studies have shown that calor
: ie restricted mice live longer than mice with regular diet.
: I personally still believe that human body is like a machine with limited se
: lf-repair function. As cells divide by themselves (maybe after 50 passages?
: ), there will be an accumulation of all kinds of problems such as DNA mutati
: ons, chromosome instabilities, telomere shortage and etc. That's one of the
: reasons for aging.
: Although body building can increase metabolic rate, cause hypertrophy and m
|
|
|
D****o
发帖数: 12808 | 31 不要歧视高学历的同学呀
版上健身的，大部分都是高学历呀
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: 其实在国内现在已经越来越流行了，只是因为北美大多数过来的以高学历读书的同学为
: 主吧～所以健身的风气相对差了一些。
: 当然了，国内健身房的整体水平肯定不如北美，所以才会有最高50lb哑铃的情况。
|
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 32 我看你行！
留个电话，100年以后记得接受我孙子的采访！
【在 i****s 的大作中提到】
: 这么说来，小弟我这样少吃又不运动的倒是可以长寿啦~~
:
: recommen
: long
: calor
: se
: mutati
: the
: m
|
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 33 单纯的body building其实不健康或者说不全面。我觉得真正的fitness goal应该是以
有氧强大的心肺功能为基础的total body work out。跑步为基础，同时身上的肉是很
精干的肉，比方自由搏击的那种身材，而不是简单的举铁出来的大块赘肉。这样锻炼的
话其实更适合健康长寿的目标。当然饮食也非常重要
recommen
long
calor
se
mutati
the
m
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: Not exactly true. For body building, a high protein diet is usually recommen
: ded. However, a high protein diet is not healthy for the kidney in the long
: run and easy to trigger inflammation. Multiple studies have shown that calor
: ie restricted mice live longer than mice with regular diet.
: I personally still believe that human body is like a machine with limited se
: lf-repair function. As cells divide by themselves (maybe after 50 passages?
: ), there will be an accumulation of all kinds of problems such as DNA mutati
: ons, chromosome instabilities, telomere shortage and etc. That's one of the
: reasons for aging.
: Although body building can increase metabolic rate, cause hypertrophy and m
|
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 34 LOL，我没歧视高学历呀～想想我也勉强算半个“高学历”吧……
只是比起其他群体，相对少一些吧。
【在 D****o 的大作中提到】
: 不要歧视高学历的同学呀
: 版上健身的，大部分都是高学历呀
|
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 35 同意，从功能上个人比较赞同Crossfit的理念。一天吃体重的蛋白虽然短期对肾看不出
影响，长期绝对不健康。饮食来说，个人感觉碳水：蛋白：脂肪 5：3：2比较好一些，
碳水的5里，新鲜水果多一些，除此之外附以大量蔬菜和高纤维的食品，同时控制总cal
orie。
当然了，虽然知道不健康，但自己现在还是在bulking，每天170+protein。原因很简单
，趁岁数还没上去，先折腾几年，把肌肉长上去。等到肌肉有型了，把蛋白量降下来，
辅以运动，肌肉也没那么容易掉。
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 单纯的body building其实不健康或者说不全面。我觉得真正的fitness goal应该是以
: 有氧强大的心肺功能为基础的total body work out。跑步为基础，同时身上的肉是很
: 精干的肉，比方自由搏击的那种身材，而不是简单的举铁出来的大块赘肉。这样锻炼的
: 话其实更适合健康长寿的目标。当然饮食也非常重要
:
: recommen
: long
: calor
: se
: mutati
|
S****s
发帖数: 510 | 36 阿信GG太谦虚了，明明就是高学历，怎么说勉强算半个，xixi
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: LOL，我没歧视高学历呀～想想我也勉强算半个“高学历”吧……
: 只是比起其他群体，相对少一些吧。
|
f****s
发帖数: 145 | 37 嘘，小点声。
虽然我们西太平洋大学教学质量还算不错，但唐骏师兄出事了之后我一直很低调……
【在 S****s 的大作中提到】
: 阿信GG太谦虚了，明明就是高学历，怎么说勉强算半个，xixi
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 38 dunk with a vb ball?
nice passage, thanks for sharing...
even a lot of ball players can't see how lift weights would help
their games...
170cm
is
【在 l********y 的大作中提到】
: for me, i started in kindergarten, horizontal bar and parallel bars just
: play with them. in middle school i reinforced my skills and can do some
: fancy moves on horizontal bars, like rolls and the first time can pullup
: over 20 times. but the true motivation is the functional improvements in
: ball games, jump higher and run faster, since i was the 5th one who can
: touch the basketball rim in my class in middle school, i was less than 170cm
: at that time(second degree), and with a little weight training in high
: school, i can dunk with a volleyball. (taller too) later in college, this is
: just habit till today.
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 39
it seems a lot of ppl in China who have nice bodies would go on to
become trainers.
When i worked out in Shanghai's gyms, rarely see guys in great shape
except some PTrainers...
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: 其实在国内现在已经越来越流行了，只是因为北美大多数过来的以高学历读书的同学为
: 主吧～所以健身的风气相对差了一些。
: 当然了，国内健身房的整体水平肯定不如北美，所以才会有最高50lb哑铃的情况。
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 40 the BB founder just passed away in SF at age of 96 last year!
there is no scientific proof that BB lives shorter than average joe...
recommen
long
calor
se
mutati
the
m
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: Not exactly true. For body building, a high protein diet is usually recommen
: ded. However, a high protein diet is not healthy for the kidney in the long
: run and easy to trigger inflammation. Multiple studies have shown that calor
: ie restricted mice live longer than mice with regular diet.
: I personally still believe that human body is like a machine with limited se
: lf-repair function. As cells divide by themselves (maybe after 50 passages?
: ), there will be an accumulation of all kinds of problems such as DNA mutati
: ons, chromosome instabilities, telomere shortage and etc. That's one of the
: reasons for aging.
: Although body building can increase metabolic rate, cause hypertrophy and m
|
|
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 41 it is indeed true that the higher someone educated, the less
physical they would become.
So called Nerd, haha!
This is just general, doesn't apply for specific individual!
【在 D****o 的大作中提到】
: 不要歧视高学历的同学呀
: 版上健身的，大部分都是高学历呀
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 42 I thought Bruce lee could have lived over 90 easily, how pity..
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 单纯的body building其实不健康或者说不全面。我觉得真正的fitness goal应该是以
: 有氧强大的心肺功能为基础的total body work out。跑步为基础，同时身上的肉是很
: 精干的肉，比方自由搏击的那种身材，而不是简单的举铁出来的大块赘肉。这样锻炼的
: 话其实更适合健康长寿的目标。当然饮食也非常重要
:
: recommen
: long
: calor
: se
: mutati
|
c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 43 good point, it was said that one man reaches his highest potential
of muscularity when he turns 45 yo
cal
【在 f****s 的大作中提到】
: 同意，从功能上个人比较赞同Crossfit的理念。一天吃体重的蛋白虽然短期对肾看不出
: 影响，长期绝对不健康。饮食来说，个人感觉碳水：蛋白：脂肪 5：3：2比较好一些，
: 碳水的5里，新鲜水果多一些，除此之外附以大量蔬菜和高纤维的食品，同时控制总cal
: orie。
: 当然了，虽然知道不健康，但自己现在还是在bulking，每天170+protein。原因很简单
: ，趁岁数还没上去，先折腾几年，把肌肉长上去。等到肌肉有型了，把蛋白量降下来，
: 辅以运动，肌肉也没那么容易掉。
|
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 44 he's drug addictive and probably had some mental issues too.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: I thought Bruce lee could have lived over 90 easily, how pity..
|
E********M
发帖数: 1372 | 45 someone in gym told me that people usually will do what they know the best,
and try to aviod what they don't know. that is why you see alot of people
only playing ball game, and running. because it is diffcult for them to
understand the importance of lifing weight.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i usually highly recommend most of my ball sports friends try to work out
: there are a lot of benefits...
: why most of them never listened to?
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n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 46 Or like you, live in US now.
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 你说的是唐以后
: 唐以前不是这样
: 再历元清大屠杀之后，中国有血性的人都被杀光了
: 崖山之后，再无中国
:
: 弱书生型
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