l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 1 From someone's comment at ESPN:
The whole deal looks like this:
Year 1: $7.4 mil from original bonus(this is added every year) + $3 mil base
= $10.4 mil total cap hit
Year 2: $7.4 + $10 mil roster bonus = $17.4 mil total cap hit
Year 3: $7.4 + $5 mil roster bonus triggered(but not paid) in year 2 + $5
mil roster bonus + $1 mil base = $18.4 mil total cap hit
Year 4: $7.4 + $19 mil roster bonus = $26.4 mil total cap hit
Year 5: $7.4 + 20 mil roster bonus = $27.4 mil total cap hit
So really this whole deal is mostly made up of the original signing bonus($
37 mil) and the roster bonuses every year($59 mil total). That's $96 of the
$100 mil. So he only has $4 mil total in base salary. That's an INSANE way
to structure a deal, but absolutely brilliant. |
d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 2 懂得人说说
加入用了三年裁了
那第四年 第五年工资帽里 是不是还得算上这7.3m 我的理解是因为已经付过了 得算 |
P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 3 我理解那37m是一定要付的 只不过拉开五年付
最后两年那roster bonus 我觉得基本拿不到 所以还是3年60m
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 懂得人说说
: 加入用了三年裁了
: 那第四年 第五年工资帽里 是不是还得算上这7.3m 我的理解是因为已经付过了 得算
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 4 Roster bonus和base salary有什么区别？我从字面上的理解，如果进了90, 75或者53
人的某一个roster,就自动trigger roster bonus. 但是进了这个名单，base salary也
就要付了吧？
5年100m已经超过长鼻子和大白菜的合同了。 |
l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 5 当然要付。signing bonus不管队员在不在都要占工资帽的。
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 懂得人说说
: 加入用了三年裁了
: 那第四年 第五年工资帽里 是不是还得算上这7.3m 我的理解是因为已经付过了 得算
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 6 base salary我理解是打一场给一场的钱。受伤了就没钱了。roster bonus 要好多了，
进入名单就全给了。
这个工资这样付的让太多球员眼红了。不仅钱多，而且100米里相当于95米是保证的。
一般球员场上卖命，但一受伤了，工资就没。
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【在 l*****8 的大作中提到】
: Roster bonus和base salary有什么区别？我从字面上的理解，如果进了90, 75或者53
: 人的某一个roster,就自动trigger roster bonus. 但是进了这个名单，base salary也
: 就要付了吧？
: 5年100m已经超过长鼻子和大白菜的合同了。
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 7 A roster bonus is paid in its entirety on a particular date -- such as "the
5th day of the 2014 NFL league year", a new league year typically starts 30
days after the Super Bowl -- if that player is on the team on that day. It'
s counted against the cap the day the contract is signed, spreading out
evenly, but if it is ultimately not paid, the team will get what have
already been counted in previous years credited back toward the current cap.
A base salary becomes guaranteed only when the player makes the final 53-men
roster. Before this happens, although it counts fully against the cap, it
can be nullified anytime by cutting him; afterward, his cap hit can only be
reduced if he is traded with the new team picking up his remaining salary.
It's analyzed on your favorite player:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Football/31457327_3.html
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【在 l*****8 的大作中提到】
: Roster bonus和base salary有什么区别？我从字面上的理解，如果进了90, 75或者53
: 人的某一个roster,就自动trigger roster bonus. 但是进了这个名单，base salary也
: 就要付了吧？
: 5年100m已经超过长鼻子和大白菜的合同了。
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 8 37米是今年就全付了，但因为是signing bonus，所以分摊到整个合同里算到工资帽里
的，也就是一年7.4米。
这个工资是3+1+1。第一年，第四，五年给大头。三年后要么release，要么谈新合同，
要么指望工资空间大涨。
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我理解那37m是一定要付的 只不过拉开五年付
: 最后两年那roster bonus 我觉得基本拿不到 所以还是3年60m
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 9 See my post above. I very much could be wrong, of course, but I believed
those roster bonuses are already proportionally counted -- why shouldn't
they? -- although they can be credited back later if not paid.
Hard to see only a 10m cap hit on a 100m deal.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 37米是今年就全付了，但因为是signing bonus，所以分摊到整个合同里算到工资帽里
: 的，也就是一年7.4米。
: 这个工资是3+1+1。第一年，第四，五年给大头。三年后要么release，要么谈新合同，
: 要么指望工资空间大涨。
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 10 所以说这个工资做的很天才。老朱钱拿的多又早，对工资空间的影响平均到五年里，最
后两年给很高的roster bonus，基本是摆设。其实合同主要是前3年60米，40米保证。
看我原帖里，好象roster bonus是全部算在当年的工资空间里，不象signing bonus那
样平摊。所以对工资空间主要影响在第四第五年。
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: See my post above. I very much could be wrong, of course, but I believed
: those roster bonuses are already proportionally counted -- why shouldn't
: they? -- although they can be credited back later if not paid.
: Hard to see only a 10m cap hit on a 100m deal.
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 11 37m的bonus到底是咋付的？ 一次付清 还是五年一年一付？
反正37m是肯定要付的 工资帽的算法应该肯定是未来五年 每年7.4
A roster bonus is paid in its entirety on a particular date -- such as "the
5th day of the 2014 NFL league year", a new league year typically starts 30
days after the Super Bowl -- if that player is on the team on that day. It'
s counted against the cap the day the contract is signed, spreading out
evenly, but if it is ultimately not paid, the team will get what have
already been counted in previous years credited back toward the current cap.
在那个合同里没看懂 只看到 year3: year2 roster bonus(triggerd but not paid)
spreading out不知道咋解读
A base salary becomes guaranteed only when the player makes the final 53-men
roster. Before this happens, although it counts fully against the cap, it
can be nullified anytime by cutting him; afterward, his cap hit can only be
reduced if he is traded with the new team picking up his remaining salary.
这个随时cut了就不用付后续的吧 当然如果没人接手工资帽不能改
那如果cut之后有人要了 就是挣后面队的工资 但是算两队的工资帽？
It's analyzed on your favorite player:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Football/31457327_3.html
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【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: A roster bonus is paid in its entirety on a particular date -- such as "the
: 5th day of the 2014 NFL league year", a new league year typically starts 30
: days after the Super Bowl -- if that player is on the team on that day. It'
: s counted against the cap the day the contract is signed, spreading out
: evenly, but if it is ultimately not paid, the team will get what have
: already been counted in previous years credited back toward the current cap.
: A base salary becomes guaranteed only when the player makes the final 53-men
: roster. Before this happens, although it counts fully against the cap, it
: can be nullified anytime by cutting him; afterward, his cap hit can only be
: reduced if he is traded with the new team picking up his remaining salary.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 12 今年分六个月付清。
the
30
It'
cap.
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 37m的bonus到底是咋付的？ 一次付清 还是五年一年一付？
: 反正37m是肯定要付的 工资帽的算法应该肯定是未来五年 每年7.4
:
: A roster bonus is paid in its entirety on a particular date -- such as "the
: 5th day of the 2014 NFL league year", a new league year typically starts 30
: days after the Super Bowl -- if that player is on the team on that day. It'
: s counted against the cap the day the contract is signed, spreading out
: evenly, but if it is ultimately not paid, the team will get what have
: already been counted in previous years credited back toward the current cap.
: 在那个合同里没看懂 只看到 year3: year2 roster bonus(triggerd but not paid)
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 13 想起来了。当时没太明白这个roster bonus.现在差不多算搞明白了。这个roster
bonus在大多数情况下对像逐步理，大白菜这样的其实和base salary应该差不了多少，
因为基本不可能在赛季中间cut他们。当然遇到大白菜那样罕见的情况就会有区别了。
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: See my post above. I very much could be wrong, of course, but I believed
: those roster bonuses are already proportionally counted -- why shouldn't
: they? -- although they can be credited back later if not paid.
: Hard to see only a 10m cap hit on a 100m deal.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 14 "Of course, Drew Brees' ($60 million guarantee through first three years) is
half of (Brooklyn Nets guard Joe Johnson's) $120M and one quarter of (Los
Angeles Angels of Anaheim first baseman Albert Pujols') $240M," ESPN NFL
business analyst Andrew Brandt tweeted. "Some perspective." |
l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 15 http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/07/drew_brees_100_mil
"Of course, Drew Brees' ($60 million guarantee through first three years) is
half of (Brooklyn Nets guard Joe Johnson's) $120M and one quarter of (Los
Angeles Angels of Anaheim first baseman Albert Pujols') $240M," ESPN NFL
business analyst Andrew Brandt tweeted. "Some perspective." |
p**m
发帖数: 11571 | 16 Joe Johnson去网了？牛啊。
is
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: "Of course, Drew Brees' ($60 million guarantee through first three years) is
: half of (Brooklyn Nets guard Joe Johnson's) $120M and one quarter of (Los
: Angeles Angels of Anaheim first baseman Albert Pujols') $240M," ESPN NFL
: business analyst Andrew Brandt tweeted. "Some perspective."
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