g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 1 Bucs coach is benching Freeman in favor of the rookie he picked.
I thought Freeman is an above-average QB with good arms. He was on an upward
trajectory until he got in the doghouse of the new coach.
Which team may be interested in trading for him or waiting till the end of
the season to sign him?
I can't help wondering if Pats may be interested. Not the first time they
pick up discarded players from Schiano (Talib, Blount). They could really
start grooming for a successor for Brady. Freeman is only 25 years old and
could be a franchise QB for years to come. |
p**m 发帖数: 11571 | 2 Vikings
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【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Bucs coach is benching Freeman in favor of the rookie he picked. : I thought Freeman is an above-average QB with good arms. He was on an upward : trajectory until he got in the doghouse of the new coach. : Which team may be interested in trading for him or waiting till the end of : the season to sign him? : I can't help wondering if Pats may be interested. Not the first time they : pick up discarded players from Schiano (Talib, Blount). They could really : start grooming for a successor for Brady. Freeman is only 25 years old and : could be a franchise QB for years to come.
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 3 Ponder has ribs injury. Sounds like a signal Vikings are going to bench him
too. |
d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 4 要是味精拿庞德换自由人 估计还得贴个秀权
him
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ponder has ribs injury. Sounds like a signal Vikings are going to bench him : too.
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 5 I didn't follow Freeman, but I've always thought he is a pretty good QB and
was underrated. The Buccs beat the Vikings at Metrodome last year, and they
almost beat the 15-1 Packers at Lambeau 2 years ago. |
x******2 发帖数: 4034 | 6 He has good weapons, Doug Martin, VJ, Mike Williams, but still can't make it
. How could he be the franchise QB after TB?
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【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Bucs coach is benching Freeman in favor of the rookie he picked. : I thought Freeman is an above-average QB with good arms. He was on an upward : trajectory until he got in the doghouse of the new coach. : Which team may be interested in trading for him or waiting till the end of : the season to sign him? : I can't help wondering if Pats may be interested. Not the first time they : pick up discarded players from Schiano (Talib, Blount). They could really : start grooming for a successor for Brady. Freeman is only 25 years old and : could be a franchise QB for years to come.
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 7 Take 49ers as an example, the problem of the Buccs could very well be on the
coaches, or more on the coaches than the players.
it
【在 x******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He has good weapons, Doug Martin, VJ, Mike Williams, but still can't make it : . How could he be the franchise QB after TB? : : upward
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d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 8 打拍子上半场 vincent jackson 在的时候 刷的码数还不错 仍的还行
and
they
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't follow Freeman, but I've always thought he is a pretty good QB and : was underrated. The Buccs beat the Vikings at Metrodome last year, and they : almost beat the 15-1 Packers at Lambeau 2 years ago.
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g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 9 i first noticed him last season when they were on a 4 game winning streak at
mid-way point and looked poised to make the playoffs. Then they self
destructed.
He struggled pre-season this year, but they could have easily won the first
2 games. Then last game against Pats, he actually played quite well in the
1H, and they should have been up like 17-0 if not for a few drops/dumb
penalties.
He has all the tools to be a franchise QB (pocket passer). I just think
Schiano is a bad NFL coach and a change of scenery would be great for
Freeman.
Buc's beat writer also seems to agree.
I just feel a lot of teams would be worse off gambling 1st/2nd round picks
on unproven college QBs than a relatively known commodity.
it
【在 x******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He has good weapons, Doug Martin, VJ, Mike Williams, but still can't make it : . How could he be the franchise QB after TB? : : upward
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g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 10 说真的,bucs进攻防守一把好牌,把球队带成这么烂,Schiano责任最大,稍微靠谱一
点的教练,这个队绝对是playoff,即使在NFC south.
Gruden会王者归来么? |
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d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 11 这就是弱化版的狮子....
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说真的,bucs进攻防守一把好牌,把球队带成这么烂,Schiano责任最大,稍微靠谱一 : 点的教练,这个队绝对是playoff,即使在NFC south. : Gruden会王者归来么?
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d********t 发帖数: 4270 | 12 qb不行,再好的牌都没用,看看那些三连败的球队,除了巨人,哪个牌差吗
说真的,bucs进攻防守一把好牌,把球队带成这么烂,Schiano责任最大,稍微靠谱一
点的教练,这个队绝对是playoff,即使在NFC south.Gruden会王者归来么?
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说真的,bucs进攻防守一把好牌,把球队带成这么烂,Schiano责任最大,稍微靠谱一 : 点的教练,这个队绝对是playoff,即使在NFC south. : Gruden会王者归来么?
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l*****8 发帖数: 16949 | 13 港人一般吧?
【在 d********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : qb不行,再好的牌都没用,看看那些三连败的球队,除了巨人,哪个牌差吗 : : 说真的,bucs进攻防守一把好牌,把球队带成这么烂,Schiano责任最大,稍微靠谱一 : 点的教练,这个队绝对是playoff,即使在NFC south.Gruden会王者归来么?
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d********t 发帖数: 4270 | 14 钢人和巨人一样,算是有好qb,让阵容拖累了的
港人一般吧?
【在 l*****8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 港人一般吧?
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l*****8 发帖数: 16949 | 15 是啊。
【在 d********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 钢人和巨人一样,算是有好qb,让阵容拖累了的 : : 港人一般吧?
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 16 龙哥去年不也是这样子吗。OL爆弱,麻袋最多。没跑功,跑锋一个个伤掉了。芬利黄油
手掉球无数。建宁也一半时间受伤。尼尔森也受过伤。防守一如既往的烂。
人家不一样打出联盟数一数二的水平。 MVP给AP和白菜盖过了,但龙哥绝对有MVP的水
平。
【在 d********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 钢人和巨人一样,算是有好qb,让阵容拖累了的 : : 港人一般吧?
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d********t 发帖数: 4270 | 17 龙哥去年表现和这俩还是有点差距的
龙哥去年不也是这样子吗。OL爆弱,麻袋最多。没跑功,跑锋一个个伤掉了。芬利黄油
手掉球无数。建宁也一半时间受伤。尼尔森也受过伤。防守一如既往的烂。人家不一样
打出联盟数一数二的水平........
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 龙哥去年不也是这样子吗。OL爆弱,麻袋最多。没跑功,跑锋一个个伤掉了。芬利黄油 : 手掉球无数。建宁也一半时间受伤。尼尔森也受过伤。防守一如既往的烂。 : 人家不一样打出联盟数一数二的水平。 MVP给AP和白菜盖过了,但龙哥绝对有MVP的水 : 平。
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 18 他老瞎扔,经常扔界外去。。。
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打拍子上半场 vincent jackson 在的时候 刷的码数还不错 仍的还行 : : and : they
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g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 19 ok,Freeman比起龙哥/小白菜是短板,但是Bucs其他位置真的只比你们说的这些队强。
上面进攻武器已经说过了,OL上有Carl Nicks,防守上二线不用说了(Revis,Goldston,
Barron), LB/DL都有牛人,基本上每个位置都有pro bowl level的队员。
港人,开玩笑吧。两年前就该推到重建了。 |
U*S 发帖数: 4914 | 20 Do you think Rogers is above average QB? He is not. He is above elite QB.
Man.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 龙哥去年不也是这样子吗。OL爆弱,麻袋最多。没跑功,跑锋一个个伤掉了。芬利黄油 : 手掉球无数。建宁也一半时间受伤。尼尔森也受过伤。防守一如既往的烂。 : 人家不一样打出联盟数一数二的水平。 MVP给AP和白菜盖过了,但龙哥绝对有MVP的水 : 平。
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d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 21 上半场 williams 爆了Arrington好几次吧
后来jackson 伤了 就彻底不行了
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他老瞎扔,经常扔界外去。。。
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g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 22 ok,Freeman比起龙哥/小白菜是短板,但是Bucs其他位置真的只比你们说的这些队强。
上面进攻武器已经说过了,OL上有Carl Nicks,防守上二线不用说了(Revis,Goldston,
Barron), LB/DL都有牛人,基本上每个位置都有pro bowl level的队员。
港人,开玩笑吧。两年前就该推到重建了。 |
z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 23 re这个。 buc的防守其实挺不错的。
Goldston,
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ok,Freeman比起龙哥/小白菜是短板,但是Bucs其他位置真的只比你们说的这些队强。 : 上面进攻武器已经说过了,OL上有Carl Nicks,防守上二线不用说了(Revis,Goldston, : Barron), LB/DL都有牛人,基本上每个位置都有pro bowl level的队员。 : 港人,开玩笑吧。两年前就该推到重建了。
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d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 24 进攻武器也够 就是qb 自由人几年不进步
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : re这个。 buc的防守其实挺不错的。 : : Goldston,
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d********t 发帖数: 4270 | 25 这和去年的弃妇没什么本质的区别吧。
Goldston,
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ok,Freeman比起龙哥/小白菜是短板,但是Bucs其他位置真的只比你们说的这些队强。 : 上面进攻武器已经说过了,OL上有Carl Nicks,防守上二线不用说了(Revis,Goldston, : Barron), LB/DL都有牛人,基本上每个位置都有pro bowl level的队员。 : 港人,开玩笑吧。两年前就该推到重建了。
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g*******s 发帖数: 2828 | 26 最后一贴,不是说Schiano不是好教练,但感觉他就是college coach那种my way or
highway的作风,完全不能像顶尖教练那样看材料做菜。
举个例子,上周拍子的两个rookie表现出色,真的是一周之内悟出大招了?非也非也,
前一周jets就一招,physical on LOS,俩rookie cannot get clean break,所以各种
timing off/route跑不出来。
这一周呢,仔细看下上半场,好几个key 3rd down,让Revis放在离Dobson10码的地方
打zone,俩rookie想怎么跑怎么跑。泥马把Revis这样的press CB用成这样,简直是暴
敛天物。
你能怪Revis赛前赛后抱怨么?
【在 d********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这和去年的弃妇没什么本质的区别吧。 : : Goldston,
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P*******e 发帖数: 39399 | 27 来吧 味精需要自由人
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【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Bucs coach is benching Freeman in favor of the rookie he picked. : I thought Freeman is an above-average QB with good arms. He was on an upward : trajectory until he got in the doghouse of the new coach. : Which team may be interested in trading for him or waiting till the end of : the season to sign him? : I can't help wondering if Pats may be interested. Not the first time they : pick up discarded players from Schiano (Talib, Blount). They could really : start grooming for a successor for Brady. Freeman is only 25 years old and : could be a franchise QB for years to come.
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P*******e 发帖数: 39399 | 28 很可能是借口 不过谢天谢地
him
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ponder has ribs injury. Sounds like a signal Vikings are going to bench him : too.
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P*******e 发帖数: 39399 | 29 龙哥确实顶了几乎全部进攻 但是你们防守副业也还是很猛的
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 龙哥去年不也是这样子吗。OL爆弱,麻袋最多。没跑功,跑锋一个个伤掉了。芬利黄油 : 手掉球无数。建宁也一半时间受伤。尼尔森也受过伤。防守一如既往的烂。 : 人家不一样打出联盟数一数二的水平。 MVP给AP和白菜盖过了,但龙哥绝对有MVP的水 : 平。
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p**m 发帖数: 11571 | 30 谢啥呀,换个QB不见的比Ponder好,除非换Flynn。
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 很可能是借口 不过谢天谢地 : : him
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z*i 发帖数: 58873 | 31 是啊,any indication that Cassel is better?
【在 p**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢啥呀,换个QB不见的比Ponder好,除非换Flynn。
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d*****e 发帖数: 16730 | 32 换flynn 只能让替补qb 升级啊
还是卡塞尔....
【在 p**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢啥呀,换个QB不见的比Ponder好,除非换Flynn。
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d********t 发帖数: 4270 | 33 刚刚看个评论,笑死我了,问你们味精是需要法爷回来还是需要庞德,答:我们需要
Freeman
来吧 味精需要自由人
【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 来吧 味精需要自由人 : : upward
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P*******e 发帖数: 39399 | 34 防守虽然主业不行 副业场场抓int 上场是三 都拿不下 你说赖谁 ol是差 但是庞德确
实没用 味精进攻武器库不错了 前十我觉得没问题
【在 p**m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢啥呀,换个QB不见的比Ponder好,除非换Flynn。
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P*******e 发帖数: 39399 | 35 hard to be worse, at least try another hand
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是啊,any indication that Cassel is better?
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f*n 发帖数: 1019 | 36 Mike Glennon! 3 starting QBs from same school in one season
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Bucs coach is benching Freeman in favor of the rookie he picked. : I thought Freeman is an above-average QB with good arms. He was on an upward : trajectory until he got in the doghouse of the new coach. : Which team may be interested in trading for him or waiting till the end of : the season to sign him? : I can't help wondering if Pats may be interested. Not the first time they : pick up discarded players from Schiano (Talib, Blount). They could really : start grooming for a successor for Brady. Freeman is only 25 years old and : could be a franchise QB for years to come.
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